Talk:2104: Biff Tannen - Revision history

MeZimm at 16:09, 25 February 2025

2025-02-25T16:09:47Z

172.68.35.56 at 23:14, 15 July 2024

2024-07-15T23:14:21Z

Hawthorn: The stuff about Trump is irrelevant and should be removed from the article.

2019-10-09T13:04:51Z

The stuff about Trump is irrelevant and should be removed from the article.

141.101.104.71 at 07:42, 9 October 2019

2019-10-09T07:42:42Z

Resuna: /* Regarding politics */

2019-02-08T14:14:41Z

‎Regarding politics

162.158.122.156: /* Subheads */ new section

2019-01-30T05:28:14Z

‎Subheads: new section

162.158.122.156: Since it seems we can comment about just anything, I want to get people to watch these movies.

2019-01-30T04:58:38Z

Since it seems we can comment about just anything, I want to get people to watch these movies.

162.158.122.156 at 04:50, 30 January 2019

2019-01-30T04:50:01Z

162.158.122.156: I have tried to help by moving a comment that was added at the top to the bottom. If this is an illegal operation then please undo it.

2019-01-30T04:46:32Z

I have tried to help by moving a comment that was added at the top to the bottom. If this is an illegal operation then please undo it.

162.158.122.156: /* 1985A */ In case someone reads my comment before looking at the article

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‎1985A: In case someone reads my comment before looking at the article

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 The Trump stuff in this comic is completely irrelevant - Kynde had a thing for making as many articles about Trump as he could, even when there is no connection. (For example, this page used to link to his [[Sad comics]] page, which I have since disconnected from every article it was linked in). The '''Relationship to political events''' subheading - added by a well-meaning contributor who I'm sure just wanted to preserve the page's content and make it easier to follow - is unnecessary, since this comic clearly has no relationship to political events as read. People who say that it does, are trying to forge a connection that does not exist. Biff Tannen being modeled on Trump is an interesting piece of trivia, to be sure, but it is not relevant to the explanation of this comic. [[User:Hawthorn|Hawthorn]] ([[User talk:Hawthorn|talk]]) 13:04, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
-Greetings all from the distant future (July 15, 2024)! The author of Hillbilly Elegy, Senator J.D. Vance, has just been picked as Trump's running mate in the 2024 presidential election. So I guess there was a weird connection there after all! (Of course, there was no way to predict that way back when this comic was drawn in 2019. Nobody could have really seen that coming. Nobody, that is, except perhaps a time traveler...) --MeZimm [[Special:Contributions/172.68.35.56|172.68.35.56]] 23:14, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
+Greetings all from the distant future (July 15, 2024)! The author of Hillbilly Elegy, Senator J.D. Vance, has just been picked as Trump's running mate in the 2024 presidential election. So I guess there was a weird connection there after all! (Of course, there was no way to predict that way back when this comic was drawn in 2019. Nobody could have really seen that coming. Nobody, that is, except perhaps a time traveler...) [[User:MeZimm|MeZimm]] ([[User talk:MeZimm|talk]]) 23:14, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
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	The Trump stuff in this comic is completely irrelevant - Kynde had a thing for making as many articles about Trump as he could, even when there is no connection. (For example, this page used to link to his [[Sad comics]] page, which I have since disconnected from every article it was linked in). The '''Relationship to political events''' subheading - added by a well-meaning contributor who I'm sure just wanted to preserve the page's content and make it easier to follow - is unnecessary, since this comic clearly has no relationship to political events as read. People who say that it does, are trying to forge a connection that does not exist. Biff Tannen being modeled on Trump is an interesting piece of trivia, to be sure, but it is not relevant to the explanation of this comic. [[User:Hawthorn\|Hawthorn]] ([[User talk:Hawthorn\|talk]]) 13:04, 9 October 2019 (UTC)		The Trump stuff in this comic is completely irrelevant - Kynde had a thing for making as many articles about Trump as he could, even when there is no connection. (For example, this page used to link to his [[Sad comics]] page, which I have since disconnected from every article it was linked in). The '''Relationship to political events''' subheading - added by a well-meaning contributor who I'm sure just wanted to preserve the page's content and make it easier to follow - is unnecessary, since this comic clearly has no relationship to political events as read. People who say that it does, are trying to forge a connection that does not exist. Biff Tannen being modeled on Trump is an interesting piece of trivia, to be sure, but it is not relevant to the explanation of this comic. [[User:Hawthorn\|Hawthorn]] ([[User talk:Hawthorn\|talk]]) 13:04, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
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		+	Greetings all from the distant future (July 15, 2024)! The author of Hillbilly Elegy, Senator J.D. Vance, has just been picked as Trump's running mate in the 2024 presidential election. So I guess there was a weird connection there after all! (Of course, there was no way to predict that way back when this comic was drawn in 2019. Nobody could have really seen that coming. Nobody, that is, except perhaps a time traveler...) --MeZimm [[Special:Contributions/172.68.35.56\|172.68.35.56]] 23:14, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

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	Note that Biff Tannen was explicitly modeled on Donald Trump [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biff_Tannen#Character_creation (reference)]. -- [[User:Resuna\|Resuna]] ([[User talk:Resuna\|talk]]) 14:14, 8 February 2019 (UTC)		Note that Biff Tannen was explicitly modeled on Donald Trump [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biff_Tannen#Character_creation (reference)]. -- [[User:Resuna\|Resuna]] ([[User talk:Resuna\|talk]]) 14:14, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
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		+	The Trump stuff in this comic is completely irrelevant - Kynde had a thing for making as many articles about Trump as he could, even when there is no connection. (For example, this page used to link to his [[Sad comics]] page, which I have since disconnected from every article it was linked in). The '''Relationship to political events''' subheading - added by a well-meaning contributor who I'm sure just wanted to preserve the page's content and make it easier to follow - is unnecessary, since this comic clearly has no relationship to political events as read. People who say that it does, are trying to forge a connection that does not exist. Biff Tannen being modeled on Trump is an interesting piece of trivia, to be sure, but it is not relevant to the explanation of this comic. [[User:Hawthorn\|Hawthorn]] ([[User talk:Hawthorn\|talk]]) 13:04, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

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	:Note that ''Hillbilly Elegy'' could not have been intended to explain the Trump election, having been written before it. However, it was interpreted this way. I have attempted to make this clear in the explanation.[[Special:Contributions/108.162.212.179\|108.162.212.179]] 18:53, 28 January 2019 (UTC)		:Note that ''Hillbilly Elegy'' could not have been intended to explain the Trump election, having been written before it. However, it was interpreted this way. I have attempted to make this clear in the explanation.[[Special:Contributions/108.162.212.179\|108.162.212.179]] 18:53, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
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		+	:I understand the animosity toward far fetched explanations. It doesn't take election fraud or particularly unique societal circumstances for a Republican to win after two consecutive Democrat terms. Both candidates had horrible turnouts and the Republican candidate won. The more interesting question is about Trump winning the primaries and to understand this phenomenon one must dig deep and will find a reasonable yet complicated and boring chain of events inside the Republican party. Mitt Romney failed with lots of votes because Obama was incredibly popular and got even more in a climate when Democrats were reasonably afraid that they might lose the election. Trump pulled off the exact opposite of Romney.

	If I'm not mistaken, Biff is based off of Donald Trump, so the Donald Trump analogy may be more likely than not. I can't quite recall where I read this, but there are quite a few similarities between the two. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.186.138\|162.158.186.138]] 19:14, 28 January 2019 (UTC)		If I'm not mistaken, Biff is based off of Donald Trump, so the Donald Trump analogy may be more likely than not. I can't quite recall where I read this, but there are quite a few similarities between the two. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.186.138\|162.158.186.138]] 19:14, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

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 :I think if Trump were a time traveller, he should be much richer, because he would have bet on sports, or invested in big companies while they were small. Instead, he invested in real estate, which was not a good option if he knew about the housing crisis beforehand. The only way I can think of to attribute his life choices to time travel meddling is: if the general public knew that time travel exists, this is the best way not to draw suspicion. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.212.131|108.162.212.131]] 13:06, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
 :Or to provide reasonable doubt for a super-secret Temporal Court that recognizes the right to presumed innocence. I think I would enjoy reading that story.--[[Special:Contributions/108.162.221.167|108.162.221.167]] 21:58, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
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		+	I have added subheadings. If you don't like subheadings then remove them. This wiki has no style guide. I think they help distinguish the structure of the document. The guy who removed the part about counterfactuals can now more easily skip that part, and we can now more easily talk about specific parts of the article here in the talk page.
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		+	Also I know that this is the third topic I have added in a row and that the button says "use sparingly", but these are major changes to the article, and therefore I expect someone to come by and complain and make a huge thread out of it.[[Special:Contributions/162.158.122.156\|162.158.122.156]] 05:28, 30 January 2019 (UTC)

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	Isn't the title text making a reference to Orwell?		Isn't the title text making a reference to Orwell?
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		+	''Back to the Future'' is such a nice movie trilogy. If anyone is discouraged by the discussions over possible relations to Donald Trump, don't be. Those relations are pretty dim and do not worsen enjoyment of the movies, neither for Democrats nor for Republicans. I recommend that everyone here who hasn't watched these movies watch all three. They are a lot of fun. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.122.156\|162.158.122.156]] 04:58, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
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 I thought Biff jumped from 2015 to 1955, not 1985...? Young Biff had the Almanac in his pocket at the High School dance and the tower he built was already in place in 1985.
+:This is an old unsigned comment. I would like to add for posterity that this has been fixed already. This guy tried to fix this information while the article was young and edits were happening super fast, so his edit got reversed as someone tried to add his edit over someone else's. It has since been fixed for good.[[Special:Contributions/162.158.122.156|162.158.122.156]] 04:50, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
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 I thought Biff jumped from 2015 to 1955, not 1985...? Young Biff had the Almanac in his pocket at the High School dance and the tower he built was already in place in 1985.
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 Collusion with a time traveler would bring a few things into focus. [[Special:Contributions/173.245.54.25|173.245.54.25]] 15:24, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
 :You inspire ''one'' house painter to change careers & suddenly everyone blames you for everything.
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 The explanation should include info on what a "counterfactual" is. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.246.95|108.162.246.95]] 04:49, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
 :Done [[Special:Contributions/108.162.212.131|108.162.212.131]] 12:33, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
 Isn't the title text making a reference to Orwell?
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 **adding a comma between "universe" and "where", which would ruin the construct.
 *To be consistent with the terminology used by Doc Brown himself.
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