Talk:2107: Launch Risk - Revision history

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 ::Many of those 360 have been in space multiple times reducing the risk further. Sebastian --[[Special:Contributions/172.68.110.70|172.68.110.70]] 07:30, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
-We should get a better source for the lightning info: The current citation is confirmed as a biased source owned and controlled by socialist Jews.
+We should get a better source for the lightning info: The current citation is confirmed{{Citation needed}} as a biased source{{Citation needed}} owned and controlled by socialist Jews{{Citation needed}}.
 [[Special:Contributions/108.162.245.220|108.162.245.220]] 19:10, 4 February 2019 (UTC)
 :I ''would'' like to hear some statistics on lightning-related death rates, as compiled by anarchist Buddhists.

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 :[[User:ProphetZarquon|ProphetZarquon]] ([[User talk:ProphetZarquon|talk]]) 22:44, 4 February 2019 (UTC)
 ::Sorry, I've never compiled those statistics. Otherwise I fit your requirements, though.[[Special:Contributions/162.158.78.178|162.158.78.178]] 08:33, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
 I'd say that part of the joke was the phrasing. The astronaut's friend said "You're more likely to be struck by lightning than selected as an astronaut," which isn't very reassuring; if the friend had said "You're more likely to be killed by a lightning strike than to die in spaceflight," it might have been a consolation (albeit a fallacious one).

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 :I ''would'' like to hear some statistics on lightning-related death rates, as compiled by anarchist Buddhists.
 :[[User:ProphetZarquon|ProphetZarquon]] ([[User talk:ProphetZarquon|talk]]) 22:44, 4 February 2019 (UTC)
 I'd say that part of the joke was the phrasing. The astronaut's friend said "You're more likely to be struck by lightning than selected as an astronaut," which isn't very reassuring; if the friend had said "You're more likely to be killed by a lightning strike than to die in spaceflight," it might have been a consolation (albeit a fallacious one).

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 The rocket closly resembels Soyuz. Might be this comic releted to recent Soyuz launch accident? If it is so, the one who is trolling is russian cosmonaut. And it also meeans some meta-trolling.
 :It could be a Soyuz, thought it looks like the conical part just below the escape tower has windows. Soyuz has just a closed fairing. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.182.58|172.68.182.58]] 11:38, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
 Launch pads usually have lightning protection systems, as a lightning strike on an assembled rocket would be bad news. See https://ams.confex.com/ams/pdfpapers/38831.pdf for example

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	These were mostly Shuttle as the crews were larger. However,the title is Launch Risk, so the figure would be less than half that, but still about 1.5%. Furthermore, if you ignore the Space Planes the Launch Risk is probably very low. [[User:RIIW - Ponder it\|RIIW - Ponder it]] ([[User talk:RIIW - Ponder it\|talk]]) 19:07, 4 February 2019 (UTC)		These were mostly Shuttle as the crews were larger. However,the title is Launch Risk, so the figure would be less than half that, but still about 1.5%. Furthermore, if you ignore the Space Planes the Launch Risk is probably very low. [[User:RIIW - Ponder it\|RIIW - Ponder it]] ([[User talk:RIIW - Ponder it\|talk]]) 19:07, 4 February 2019 (UTC)
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		+	::Many of those 360 have been in space multiple times reducing the risk further. Sebastian --[[Special:Contributions/172.68.110.70\|172.68.110.70]] 07:30, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

	We should get a better source for the lightning info: The current citation is confirmed as a biased source owned and controlled by socialist Jews.		We should get a better source for the lightning info: The current citation is confirmed as a biased source owned and controlled by socialist Jews.

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	:It could be a Soyuz, thought it looks like the conical part just below the escape tower has windows. Soyuz has just a closed fairing. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.182.58\|172.68.182.58]] 11:38, 5 February 2019 (UTC)		:It could be a Soyuz, thought it looks like the conical part just below the escape tower has windows. Soyuz has just a closed fairing. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.182.58\|172.68.182.58]] 11:38, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

−	Launch pads usually have lightning protection systems, as a lightning strike on an assembled rocket would be bad news. See https%://ams.confex.com/ams/pdfpapers/38831.pdf for example	+	Launch pads usually have lightning protection systems, as a lightning strike on an assembled rocket would be bad news. See https://ams.confex.com/ams/pdfpapers/38831.pdf for example

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	The rocket closly resembels Soyuz. Might be this comic releted to recent Soyuz launch accident? If it is so, the one who is trolling is russian cosmonaut. And it also meeans some meta-trolling.		The rocket closly resembels Soyuz. Might be this comic releted to recent Soyuz launch accident? If it is so, the one who is trolling is russian cosmonaut. And it also meeans some meta-trolling.
	:It could be a Soyuz, thought it looks like the conical part just below the escape tower has windows. Soyuz has just a closed fairing. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.182.58\|172.68.182.58]] 11:38, 5 February 2019 (UTC)		:It could be a Soyuz, thought it looks like the conical part just below the escape tower has windows. Soyuz has just a closed fairing. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.182.58\|172.68.182.58]] 11:38, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
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		+	Launch pads usually have lightning protection systems, as a lightning strike on an assembled rocket would be bad news. See https%://ams.confex.com/ams/pdfpapers/38831.pdf for example

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	The rocket closly resembels Soyuz. Might be this comic releted to recent Soyuz launch accident? If it is so, the one who is trolling is russian cosmonaut. And it also meeans some meta-trolling.		The rocket closly resembels Soyuz. Might be this comic releted to recent Soyuz launch accident? If it is so, the one who is trolling is russian cosmonaut. And it also meeans some meta-trolling.
		+	:It could be a Soyuz, thought it looks like the conical part just below the escape tower has windows. Soyuz has just a closed fairing. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.182.58\|172.68.182.58]] 11:38, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

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	Removed the shark death rate statistic, since it was 1) not typical, 2) not comparable to the other statistics in the paragraph. The statistic given was the percent of shark attacks that are fatal. It used reporting from one beach in Brazil, noted for having particularly high death rate statistics [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shark_attack]. The other rates listed are lifetime chance of death from particular cause - a totally different statistic.		Removed the shark death rate statistic, since it was 1) not typical, 2) not comparable to the other statistics in the paragraph. The statistic given was the percent of shark attacks that are fatal. It used reporting from one beach in Brazil, noted for having particularly high death rate statistics [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shark_attack]. The other rates listed are lifetime chance of death from particular cause - a totally different statistic.
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		+	The rocket closly resembels Soyuz. Might be this comic releted to recent Soyuz launch accident? If it is so, the one who is trolling is russian cosmonaut. And it also meeans some meta-trolling.

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-Gave a brief explanation, but I think it would be good to mention probability based logical fallacies and https://what-if.xkcd.com/55/. Don’t know how to link without it looking bad. This is my first page! [[User:Netherin5|Netherin5]] ([[User talk:Netherin5|talk]]) 17:28, 4 February 2019 (UTC)
+Gave a short explanation, but I think it would be good to mention probability based logical fallacies and https://what-if.xkcd.com/55/. Don’t know how to link without it looking bad. This is my first page! [[User:Netherin5|Netherin5]] ([[User talk:Netherin5|talk]]) 17:28, 4 February 2019 (UTC)
 Revised to a more extensive explanation including the fallacy that the second astronaut apparently realizes in mid-reply. [[User:SteveMB|SteveMB]] ([[User talk:SteveMB|talk]])