Talk:2112: Night Shift - Revision history

B for brain at 10:20, 16 November 2024

2024-11-16T10:20:46Z

162.158.107.149: Additional explanation on double-entendre

2019-09-15T06:26:23Z

Additional explanation on double-entendre

162.158.107.149: White balance is specifically mentioned in the title text

2019-09-15T06:12:38Z

White balance is specifically mentioned in the title text

CCCVVVA at 17:55, 5 March 2019

2019-03-05T17:55:11Z

Netherin5 at 17:17, 26 February 2019

2019-02-26T17:17:25Z

162.158.106.6: white balance - why removing?

2019-02-26T01:49:06Z

white balance - why removing?

162.158.75.136 at 19:59, 20 February 2019

2019-02-20T19:59:52Z

162.158.79.113 at 10:33, 18 February 2019

2019-02-18T10:33:47Z

172.68.58.59: add a comment to the "Rush reference" section

2019-02-18T06:42:50Z

add a comment to the "Rush reference" section

172.68.65.228 at 06:23, 18 February 2019

2019-02-18T06:23:39Z

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	As a jew, i have to say. We didn't put the mind control stuff into your phone. That was the WASPS. We put the mind control stuff into physics itself. 02:49, 16 February 2019 (UTC) {{unsigned ip\|172.68.59.84}}		As a jew, i have to say. We didn't put the mind control stuff into your phone. That was the WASPS. We put the mind control stuff into physics itself. 02:49, 16 February 2019 (UTC) {{unsigned ip\|172.68.59.84}}
		+	:As another jew who has read the other comments, I think it was a vandal who said those things. They've apparently stopped, but I'm just letting you know. [[User:B_for_brain\|B for brain]] ([[User_talk:B_for_brain\|talk]]) ([https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCg4bo-hj-mDyOOUp_Yp0pug youtube channel] [https://bforbrain.weebly.com/ wobsite (supposed to be a blag)]) 10:20, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

	Maybe, instead of actually mindcontrolling people, it just alters their text to make it appear that they're being less opinionated? [[Special:Contributions/162.158.167.30\|162.158.167.30]] 09:58, 16 February 2019 (UTC)		Maybe, instead of actually mindcontrolling people, it just alters their text to make it appear that they're being less opinionated? [[Special:Contributions/162.158.167.30\|162.158.167.30]] 09:58, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

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 ::Text in question: "This is probably a play on {{w|white supremacy}}, {{w|angry white male}}, or similar areas where violent expression of ones views and abuse of the views of others are prevalent."  [[Special:Contributions/162.158.106.6|162.158.106.6]] 01:49, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
 :::While it isn’t unlink Randall to get political, there is nothing close in here about that specifically. It seems more to be a surreal and fun joke comment. This especially doesn’t make sense with the comic itself, which is about how a “night” mode turns down the intensity of opinions. The title text, to me, is Randall “turning the brightness up” like in the day, vastly increasing the intensity of the opinions. Kinda like how when you turn up the brightness too fast it can hurt your eyes, or how night mode can lull one into sleep. [[User:Netherin5|Netherin5]] ([[User talk:Netherin5|talk]]) 17:17, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
-::::What suggest this is that the intensified reactions come when adjusting the "White balance" in the title text.  Angry white male things are particularly common in the US at the time this cartoon was written, with President Trump, etc.  So there is something very specifically about it here.  [[Special:Contributions/162.158.107.149|162.158.107.149]] 06:12, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
+::::What suggest this is that the intensified reactions come when adjusting the "White balance" in the title text.  Angry white male things are particularly common in the US at the time this cartoon was written, with President Trump, etc.  So there is something very specifically about it here.  (Link is uses the term white, and Angry white male discourse is characterized by not being particularly balanced, that is not considering various facets of an issue).  [[Special:Contributions/162.158.107.149|162.158.107.149]] 06:12, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
 The value of brevity and directness is very much a cultural one.  Women in American culture are discouraged from giving direct answers. Similarly, in Japanese culture, indirectness is more polite, e.g.  [https://leo.stcloudstate.edu/kaleidoscope/volume3/direct.html American Directness and the Japanese]  So the observation, which was in the explanation, that "In short, on the internet, we probably talk too much and don't cut to the chase enough."  Probably originated from somebody coming from a culture that values directness (e.g. an American male.)  [[Special:Contributions/162.158.106.6|162.158.106.6]] 23:55, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

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 ::Text in question: "This is probably a play on {{w|white supremacy}}, {{w|angry white male}}, or similar areas where violent expression of ones views and abuse of the views of others are prevalent."  [[Special:Contributions/162.158.106.6|162.158.106.6]] 01:49, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
 :::While it isn’t unlink Randall to get political, there is nothing close in here about that specifically. It seems more to be a surreal and fun joke comment. This especially doesn’t make sense with the comic itself, which is about how a “night” mode turns down the intensity of opinions. The title text, to me, is Randall “turning the brightness up” like in the day, vastly increasing the intensity of the opinions. Kinda like how when you turn up the brightness too fast it can hurt your eyes, or how night mode can lull one into sleep. [[User:Netherin5|Netherin5]] ([[User talk:Netherin5|talk]]) 17:17, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
 The value of brevity and directness is very much a cultural one.  Women in American culture are discouraged from giving direct answers. Similarly, in Japanese culture, indirectness is more polite, e.g.  [https://leo.stcloudstate.edu/kaleidoscope/volume3/direct.html American Directness and the Japanese]  So the observation, which was in the explanation, that "In short, on the internet, we probably talk too much and don't cut to the chase enough."  Probably originated from somebody coming from a culture that values directness (e.g. an American male.)  [[Special:Contributions/162.158.106.6|162.158.106.6]] 23:55, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

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	The value of brevity and directness is very much a cultural one. Women in American culture are discouraged from giving direct answers. Similarly, in Japanese culture, indirectness is more polite, e.g. [https://leo.stcloudstate.edu/kaleidoscope/volume3/direct.html American Directness and the Japanese] So the observation, which was in the explanation, that "In short, on the internet, we probably talk too much and don't cut to the chase enough." Probably originated from somebody coming from a culture that values directness (e.g. an American male.) [[Special:Contributions/162.158.106.6\|162.158.106.6]] 23:55, 17 February 2019 (UTC)		The value of brevity and directness is very much a cultural one. Women in American culture are discouraged from giving direct answers. Similarly, in Japanese culture, indirectness is more polite, e.g. [https://leo.stcloudstate.edu/kaleidoscope/volume3/direct.html American Directness and the Japanese] So the observation, which was in the explanation, that "In short, on the internet, we probably talk too much and don't cut to the chase enough." Probably originated from somebody coming from a culture that values directness (e.g. an American male.) [[Special:Contributions/162.158.106.6\|162.158.106.6]] 23:55, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
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		+	I think this comic is also a play on logical fallacies that is usually prevalent in heated political debates. But it is applied to more absurdly mundane topics.
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		+	For example, this particular one seems to be a play on whataboutism:
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		+	<blockquote>Cueball: 24 isn't a prime number</blockquote>
		+	<blockquote>Cueball WFBPP: Neither is 25</blockquote>
		+	[[User:CCCVVVA\|CCCVVVA]] ([[User talk:CCCVVVA\|talk]]) 17:55, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

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 ::A couple of times this has been deleted without explanation.  If you have alternative explanations of what could the joke is, why setting the white balance would result in more extreme expression, please add them, or can think of ways to clarify, or come here and explain why think it should be removed.
 ::Text in question: "This is probably a play on {{w|white supremacy}}, {{w|angry white male}}, or similar areas where violent expression of ones views and abuse of the views of others are prevalent."  [[Special:Contributions/162.158.106.6|162.158.106.6]] 01:49, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
 The value of brevity and directness is very much a cultural one.  Women in American culture are discouraged from giving direct answers. Similarly, in Japanese culture, indirectness is more polite, e.g.  [https://leo.stcloudstate.edu/kaleidoscope/volume3/direct.html American Directness and the Japanese]  So the observation, which was in the explanation, that "In short, on the internet, we probably talk too much and don't cut to the chase enough."  Probably originated from somebody coming from a culture that values directness (e.g. an American male.)  [[Special:Contributions/162.158.106.6|162.158.106.6]] 23:55, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

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 Is it talking about politics and privilege, maybe? Politics could be intensity between blue and red; privilege could be balance between white and non-white . . . . [[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.82|108.162.216.82]] 11:23, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
 :I agree that the intensity and often lack of civility in racial discussions is very much apropos.  Have added it to the explanation (white suppremacy, angry white men, etc.).  [[Special:Contributions/162.158.106.6|162.158.106.6]] 23:55, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
 The value of brevity and directness is very much a cultural one.  Women in American culture are discouraged from giving direct answers. Similarly, in Japanese culture, indirectness is more polite, e.g.  [https://leo.stcloudstate.edu/kaleidoscope/volume3/direct.html American Directness and the Japanese]  So the observation, which was in the explanation, that "In short, on the internet, we probably talk too much and don't cut to the chase enough."  Probably originated from somebody coming from a culture that values directness (e.g. an American male.)  [[Special:Contributions/162.158.106.6|162.158.106.6]] 23:55, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

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 :And yet comic #1984 doesn't have any reference to <cite>1984</cite>. I haven't heard of Rush and I had only seen any reference to the number 2112 in <cite>Guitar Hero: Warriors of Rock</cite>'s quest mode...
 ::So you claim to not know who Rush are, yet you know the Guitar Hero quest based on Rush’s seminal 2112 album. If true, then the image of someone sufficiently sheltered in their musical exposure to have had their first brush with the greatness of Rush come through a game brings me joy at knowing the game is introducing even more people to the musical brilliance of Getty Lee, Alex Lifeson, and Neil Peart.  In keeping with the subject of this comic, “Night Shift Mode”, since I’m typing this due to insomnia that has me awake at 5am, I will resist the temptation to scream and rant at the comments of others and say simply that while Rush is indeed a very well know band (inducted into both Canadian and US Rock and Roll Halls of Fame) it is likely that Randal didn’t notice the connection between comic 2112 and the Rush album of the same title, or if he did, didn’t think it worth including in this comic. When the 2112 album was released Randal was a teenager (at the oldest; I’m guessing here, not bothering to look up trivia) [[Special:Contributions/162.158.79.113|162.158.79.113]] 10:33, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
 Is it talking about politics and privilege, maybe? Politics could be intensity between blue and red; privilege could be balance between white and non-white . . . . [[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.82|108.162.216.82]] 11:23, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

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 :I blame the priests. [[User:These Are Not The Comments You Are Looking For|These Are Not The Comments You Are Looking For]] ([[User talk:These Are Not The Comments You Are Looking For|talk]]) 05:41, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
 :That's cuz no one knows who they are.
 :And yet comic #1984 doesn't have any reference to <cite>1984</cite>. I haven't heard of Rush and I had only seen any reference to the number 2112 in <cite>Guitar Hero: Warriors of Rock</cite>'s quest mode...
 Is it talking about politics and privilege, maybe? Politics could be intensity between blue and red; privilege could be balance between white and non-white . . . . [[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.82|108.162.216.82]] 11:23, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

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	Maybe, instead of actually mindcontrolling people, it just alters their text to make it appear that they're being less opinionated? [[Special:Contributions/162.158.167.30\|162.158.167.30]] 09:58, 16 February 2019 (UTC)		Maybe, instead of actually mindcontrolling people, it just alters their text to make it appear that they're being less opinionated? [[Special:Contributions/162.158.167.30\|162.158.167.30]] 09:58, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
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		+	:I'd say that's pretty obviously the intended method, yes. The idea that there is some kind of reference to mind control in this seems a bit... paranoid. Which isn't really to say that your phone/news feed doesn't affect your behaviour and emotional state. That's been demonstrated to be true a few times. But a tin-foil hat isn't going to help anything like as much as shutting it off will.[[Special:Contributions/172.68.65.228\|172.68.65.228]] 06:23, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

	I can't ''believe'' that for comic #2112 there is not a single [https://www.rush.com/albums/2112/ Rush reference.] {{unsigned ip\|172.68.59.84}}		I can't ''believe'' that for comic #2112 there is not a single [https://www.rush.com/albums/2112/ Rush reference.] {{unsigned ip\|172.68.59.84}}