Talk:2119: Video Orientation - Revision history

162.158.38.78: /* Anti-Semitic trolling */

2024-06-17T11:21:00Z

‎Anti-Semitic trolling

Rps: About camera sensor sizes

2024-02-27T17:58:14Z

About camera sensor sizes

141.101.97.54: /* Anti-Semitic trolling */

2022-09-28T12:00:19Z

‎Anti-Semitic trolling

Tacomobile05 at 22:47, 15 January 2020

2020-01-15T22:47:14Z

JamesCurran: Family Circus

2019-03-11T21:59:26Z

Family Circus

These Are Not The Comments You Are Looking For: Objection to coddling trolls.

2019-03-11T04:05:50Z

Objection to coddling trolls.

Dgbrt: Please sign your comments.

2019-03-08T16:23:12Z

Please sign your comments.

162.158.89.223: /* Pro/Contra Vertical Video */ new section

2019-03-07T22:21:05Z

‎Pro/Contra Vertical Video: new section

162.158.155.200: What shape is the camera?

2019-03-07T11:14:14Z

What shape is the camera?

RIIW - Ponder it at 22:32, 6 March 2019

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 I feel like there's an awesome joke to be made about Battlefield Earth here...
 [[User:Glassvein|Glassvein]] ([[User talk:Glassvein|talk]]) 02:44, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
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	:I assume that inside your phone camera there's a "retina" chip in the same dimensions as your screen, so if your phone is upright (portrait) then the picture is portrait shape too. But, sure, they could make the camera rotate inside the phone... that would work for switching between selfie / other people modes, too. But no, then your selfies would be upside down... or... can I get back to you? :-) Robert Carnegie rja.carnegie@excite.com [[Special:Contributions/162.158.155.200\|162.158.155.200]] 11:14, 7 March 2019 (UTC)		:I assume that inside your phone camera there's a "retina" chip in the same dimensions as your screen, so if your phone is upright (portrait) then the picture is portrait shape too. But, sure, they could make the camera rotate inside the phone... that would work for switching between selfie / other people modes, too. But no, then your selfies would be upside down... or... can I get back to you? :-) Robert Carnegie rja.carnegie@excite.com [[Special:Contributions/162.158.155.200\|162.158.155.200]] 11:14, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
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		+	::No, usually the sensor of the camera(s) doesn't match the screen resolution. For instance, in my previous smartphone (the current one has 3 cameras so it might be more complicated) the camera has a sensor with a 4:3 aspect ratio (this is usual format for small sensors) and ~13 MegaPixels (4160 * 3120). When I selected the 16:9 ratio the image was cropped to ~10 MP (4096 * 2304). The manufacturer could have made the camera software to have an option to take landscape images while holding the phone vertically by cropping to 3120 * 2340 (4:3 format) or 3120 * 1755 (16:9). This would not be enough for 4K video, but it would be plenty for Full-HD (which is only 1920 * 1080). [[User:Rps\|Rps]] ([[User talk:Rps\|talk]]) 17:58, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

	Ironically, when I first read the comic on my phone (portrait), I did not realise there was a third "CONS" column. [[User:ColinHogben\|ColinHogben]] ([[User talk:ColinHogben\|talk]]) 15:20, 4 March 2019 (UTC)		Ironically, when I first read the comic on my phone (portrait), I did not realise there was a third "CONS" column. [[User:ColinHogben\|ColinHogben]] ([[User talk:ColinHogben\|talk]]) 15:20, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

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	but guys, the stuff he's saying is '''bold and dynamic''' @_@[[Special:Contributions/172.69.33.23\|172.69.33.23]] 00:51, 5 March 2019 (UTC)		but guys, the stuff he's saying is '''bold and dynamic''' @_@[[Special:Contributions/172.69.33.23\|172.69.33.23]] 00:51, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
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		+	[[Special:Contributions/141.101.97.54\|141.101.97.54]]Wait, what happened? What do video orientations have to do with antisemitism?

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	The explanation so far seems to suggest that he thinks vertical video is obviously bad, and even compares it to the "Norm" type file comic. "claiming that an obviously bad idea keeps being done by accident 'so we might as well just accept it'". However, I think this is not true at all, and the comic aligns much more to the comics which talked about common misconceptions (Frankenstein) or commonly used bad grammar ("could care less"). On many of these comics, he seems to have the opinion that the people who insist on the "correct" way should stop insisting and just accept the change. I think this one relates much more to those, and he is pro vertical video [which I'm not, so this is not an interpretation based on personal preference], instead of relating to the "Norm" comic where he obviously is just joking. The point of the comic is "stop fighting it". And nowhere in the comic he claims that horizontal video is obviously better, like the explanation says so far. {{unsigned ip\|162.158.89.223}}		The explanation so far seems to suggest that he thinks vertical video is obviously bad, and even compares it to the "Norm" type file comic. "claiming that an obviously bad idea keeps being done by accident 'so we might as well just accept it'". However, I think this is not true at all, and the comic aligns much more to the comics which talked about common misconceptions (Frankenstein) or commonly used bad grammar ("could care less"). On many of these comics, he seems to have the opinion that the people who insist on the "correct" way should stop insisting and just accept the change. I think this one relates much more to those, and he is pro vertical video [which I'm not, so this is not an interpretation based on personal preference], instead of relating to the "Norm" comic where he obviously is just joking. The point of the comic is "stop fighting it". And nowhere in the comic he claims that horizontal video is obviously better, like the explanation says so far. {{unsigned ip\|162.158.89.223}}
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		+	Another con with circular video is that it can get distorted because of Mercator Projection.

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 ::I thought it was something that wasn't planned by the author? But yeah, still makes for an interesting Easter egg. [[User:Herobrine|Herobrine]] ([[User talk:Herobrine|talk]]) 13:09, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
 :::You are correct.  Clarke has always insisted that the letter-shift from IBM was coincidence and that he would've picked a different name had they known at the time.  HAL has always stood for "Heuristically programmed ALgorithmic computer".  ({{w|HAL 9000#Origin of name|source}}).  [[User:Shamino|Shamino]] ([[User talk:Shamino|talk]]) 13:37, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
 A circular screen is great for that retro-look, like a [https://picclick.com/1950s-ZENITH-PORTHOLE-Television-18-Circular-TV-Screen-113317154719.html 1950's Zenith Porthole TV].  I seem to remember seeing circular screens on some really old sci-fi shows as well.  As well as one use of a [https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Film/ThisIslandEarth triangular screen].  [[User:Shamino|Shamino]] ([[User talk:Shamino|talk]]) 14:37, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

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 ::Bad language isn't vandalism - but your action editing comments written by others is vandalism. This is a talk page and everybody can say anything, but some nonsense like this require a proper reply. This is not the explanation page. And further more deleting comments gives the writer an argument about censorship which in this case would be correct. Do you want that writer having a correct argument?
 ::BTW: Please do not forget to sign your comments. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 19:21, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
 but guys, the stuff he's saying is '''bold and dynamic''' @_@[[Special:Contributions/172.69.33.23|172.69.33.23]] 00:51, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

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 :Circle of trust seems to be a clothing brand? I do not see any relevance on that. Nevertheless I think the demon thing should, if at all, be one of few alternative explanations. It might just be a nonsense statement, or could be related to a fisheye objective, binoculars, or to the looking holes in appartment doors. --[[User:Lupo|Lupo]] ([[User talk:Lupo|talk]]) 11:07, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
-wow this circle is sure disliked alot considering randall says it solves the aspect ratio problem. if it's a trust issue then what happens in the case that two people hold a conversation via circular televideophones? ocæon 22:14, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
+wow this circle is sure disliked alot considering randall says it solves the aspect ratio problem. if it's a trust issue then what happens in the case that two people hold a conversation via circular televideophones? ocæon 22:14, 6 March 2019 (UTC) {{unsigned|Ocæon}}
 Maybe Randal and someone he knows have those Alexa video things that are circular and people talk out of... [[User:RIIW - Ponder it|RIIW - Ponder it]] ([[User talk:RIIW - Ponder it|talk]]) 22:32, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
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 What makes people think he likes the horizontal orientation more? Looking at the comic it seems to me he likes the vertical orientation more. --[[Special:Contributions/172.69.54.87|172.69.54.87]] 10:05, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
-:the pro for vertical suggests it has reached a tipping point for widespread social acceptance, but whether it's pro status is an assertion or a path of least resistance remains unclear. it leaves us free to project on the issue. ocæon 22:28, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
+:the pro for vertical suggests it has reached a tipping point for widespread social acceptance, but whether it's pro status is an assertion or a path of least resistance remains unclear. it leaves us free to project on the issue. ocæon 22:28, 6 March 2019 (UTC) {{unsigned|Ocæon}}
 == Pro/Contra Vertical Video ==
-The explanation so far seems to suggest that he thinks vertical video is obviously bad, and even compares it to the "Norm" type file comic. "claiming that an obviously bad idea keeps being done by accident 'so we might as well just accept it'". However, I think this is not true at all, and the comic aligns much more to the comics which talked about common misconceptions (Frankenstein) or commonly used bad grammar ("could care less"). On many of these comics, he seems to have the opinion that the people who insist on the "correct" way should stop insisting and just accept the change. I think this one relates much more to those, and he is pro vertical video [which I'm not, so this is not an interpretation based on personal preference], instead of relating to the "Norm" comic where he obviously is just joking. The point of the comic is "stop fighting it". And nowhere in the comic he claims that horizontal video is obviously better, like the explanation says so far.
+The explanation so far seems to suggest that he thinks vertical video is obviously bad, and even compares it to the "Norm" type file comic. "claiming that an obviously bad idea keeps being done by accident 'so we might as well just accept it'". However, I think this is not true at all, and the comic aligns much more to the comics which talked about common misconceptions (Frankenstein) or commonly used bad grammar ("could care less"). On many of these comics, he seems to have the opinion that the people who insist on the "correct" way should stop insisting and just accept the change. I think this one relates much more to those, and he is pro vertical video [which I'm not, so this is not an interpretation based on personal preference], instead of relating to the "Norm" comic where he obviously is just joking. The point of the comic is "stop fighting it". And nowhere in the comic he claims that horizontal video is obviously better, like the explanation says so far. {{unsigned ip|162.158.89.223}}

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	:the pro for vertical suggests it has reached a tipping point for widespread social acceptance, but whether it's pro status is an assertion or a path of least resistance remains unclear. it leaves us free to project on the issue. ocæon 22:28, 6 March 2019 (UTC)		:the pro for vertical suggests it has reached a tipping point for widespread social acceptance, but whether it's pro status is an assertion or a path of least resistance remains unclear. it leaves us free to project on the issue. ocæon 22:28, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
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		+	== Pro/Contra Vertical Video ==
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		+	The explanation so far seems to suggest that he thinks vertical video is obviously bad, and even compares it to the "Norm" type file comic. "claiming that an obviously bad idea keeps being done by accident 'so we might as well just accept it'". However, I think this is not true at all, and the comic aligns much more to the comics which talked about common misconceptions (Frankenstein) or commonly used bad grammar ("could care less"). On many of these comics, he seems to have the opinion that the people who insist on the "correct" way should stop insisting and just accept the change. I think this one relates much more to those, and he is pro vertical video [which I'm not, so this is not an interpretation based on personal preference], instead of relating to the "Norm" comic where he obviously is just joking. The point of the comic is "stop fighting it". And nowhere in the comic he claims that horizontal video is obviously better, like the explanation says so far.

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	:I have to agree... the fact that most non-mobile screens are oriented horizontally being left out was kind of a big miss. A vertical video looks like crap on a TV or Computer Monitor (Ironically unless it's an old 3:4 one, where the difference is a lot more minor.) -Graptor [[Special:Contributions/172.69.62.220\|172.69.62.220]] 15:34, 4 March 2019 (UTC)		:I have to agree... the fact that most non-mobile screens are oriented horizontally being left out was kind of a big miss. A vertical video looks like crap on a TV or Computer Monitor (Ironically unless it's an old 3:4 one, where the difference is a lot more minor.) -Graptor [[Special:Contributions/172.69.62.220\|172.69.62.220]] 15:34, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

		+	:I assume that inside your phone camera there's a "retina" chip in the same dimensions as your screen, so if your phone is upright (portrait) then the picture is portrait shape too. But, sure, they could make the camera rotate inside the phone... that would work for switching between selfie / other people modes, too. But no, then your selfies would be upside down... or... can I get back to you? :-) Robert Carnegie rja.carnegie@excite.com [[Special:Contributions/162.158.155.200\|162.158.155.200]] 11:14, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

	Ironically, when I first read the comic on my phone (portrait), I did not realise there was a third "CONS" column. [[User:ColinHogben\|ColinHogben]] ([[User talk:ColinHogben\|talk]]) 15:20, 4 March 2019 (UTC)		Ironically, when I first read the comic on my phone (portrait), I did not realise there was a third "CONS" column. [[User:ColinHogben\|ColinHogben]] ([[User talk:ColinHogben\|talk]]) 15:20, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

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	wow this circle is sure disliked alot considering randall says it solves the aspect ratio problem. if it's a trust issue then what happens in the case that two people hold a conversation via circular televideophones? ocæon 22:14, 6 March 2019 (UTC)		wow this circle is sure disliked alot considering randall says it solves the aspect ratio problem. if it's a trust issue then what happens in the case that two people hold a conversation via circular televideophones? ocæon 22:14, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
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		+	Maybe Randal and someone he knows have those Alexa video things that are circular and people talk out of... [[User:RIIW - Ponder it\|RIIW - Ponder it]] ([[User talk:RIIW - Ponder it\|talk]]) 22:32, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

	== Randalls favorite video orientation ==		== Randalls favorite video orientation ==