Talk:2137: Text Entry - Revision history

2001:4C4E:1C01:CC00:DCE0:A51A:695A:B8B1 at 11:53, 20 October 2025

2025-10-20T11:53:54Z

162.158.34.205: I've actually done that kind of analysis, based on letter digraph frequency from a large corpus of texts, but not got that info at hand. Just marking the editor/timestamp for nw.

2022-12-30T19:20:11Z

I've actually done that kind of analysis, based on letter digraph frequency from a large corpus of texts, but not got that info at hand. Just marking the editor/timestamp for nw.

Solomon: /* special-purpose keyboard layout */ new section

2022-12-30T18:50:25Z

‎special-purpose keyboard layout: new section

172.68.74.10 at 22:17, 26 May 2019

2019-05-26T22:17:41Z

Ocæon: typo

2019-04-22T18:53:44Z

typo

Ocæon: reply to lupo and or note to others

2019-04-22T18:41:22Z

reply to lupo and or note to others

Lupo: /* Text to Speech? */

2019-04-22T10:53:33Z

‎Text to Speech?

Ocæon: /* Text to Speech? */ new section

2019-04-21T13:27:49Z

‎Text to Speech?: new section

Hawthorn at 20:58, 18 April 2019

2019-04-18T20:58:31Z

Elektrizikekswerk at 14:33, 18 April 2019

2019-04-18T14:33:10Z

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 Should it be clarified that Ponytail and Cueball are sitting in one chair? The drawing seemed unclear to me at first. --[[User:Youforgotthisthing|Youforgotthisthing]] ([[User talk:Youforgotthisthing|talk]]) 18:03, 15 April 2019 (UTC) One chair? Or a sofa or a loveseat?? [[Special:Contributions/162.158.214.82|162.158.214.82]] 11:18, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
 It looks to me like a child standing beside (our perspective: behind) his chair and another person looking over his shoulder. ShawnT [[Special:Contributions/162.158.74.33|162.158.74.33]] 23:35, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
 I use Dvorak on all my devices when possible and often find myself wishing for Dvorak on-screen keyboards. Sure, there's more absolute distance between consecutive characters on average, but that's offset by me not having to try to remember how QWERTY is laid out. I don't think that the joke here is "Dvorak on-screen keyboards are pointless", I think it's "Dvorak users are such a small percentage of the population that the odds of anyone bothering to cater to them is slim to none, and anyone lobbying for it is wasting their time". [[User:Undergroundmonorail|Undergroundmonorail]] ([[User talk:Undergroundmonorail|talk]]) 18:23, 15 April 2019 (UTC)

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	== special-purpose keyboard layout ==		== special-purpose keyboard layout ==

−	How about using a keyboard layout that's optimized for this, with more common pairs of letters having closer L1/taxicab distances? What would that end up being?	+	How about using a keyboard layout that's optimized for this, with more common pairs of letters having closer L1/taxicab distances? What would that end up being? {{unsigned\|Solomon\|18:50, 30 December 2022}}

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	: I see no indication for that... if that was the message behind the comic, I think it would have been made clearer that it is actually spoken. --[[User:Lupo\|Lupo]] ([[User talk:Lupo\|talk]]) 10:53, 22 April 2019 (UTC)		: I see no indication for that... if that was the message behind the comic, I think it would have been made clearer that it is actually spoken. --[[User:Lupo\|Lupo]] ([[User talk:Lupo\|talk]]) 10:53, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
	::i can accept that, though i would love to know if there's a style guide (cannon or reverse engineered) on randall's communication indicators; zigzag appears for computers and mobiles, though usually if it's not audio it will have a box, and if it is then there are four extra little radial lines at origin. rarely are they completely ambiguous. [[User:Ocæon\|ocæon]] ([[User talk:Ocæon\|talk]]) 18:41, 22 April 2019 (UTC)		::i can accept that, though i would love to know if there's a style guide (cannon or reverse engineered) on randall's communication indicators; zigzag appears for computers and mobiles, though usually if it's not audio it will have a box, and if it is then there are four extra little radial lines at origin. rarely are they completely ambiguous. [[User:Ocæon\|ocæon]] ([[User talk:Ocæon\|talk]]) 18:41, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
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		+	== special-purpose keyboard layout ==
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		+	How about using a keyboard layout that's optimized for this, with more common pairs of letters having closer L1/taxicab distances? What would that end up being?

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 ::That's not the point. You're right it's absolutely clear that Randall is against Trump. But what remains highly debatable is that all these comics you think/claim to be connected to this fact actually are connected to that fact. [[User:Elektrizikekswerk|Elektrizikekswerk]] ([[User talk:Elektrizikekswerk|talk]]) 14:33, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
 :::Randall is not a fan of Trump. That is perfectly clear and unobjectionable. However, you (Kynde) are drawing ''specific inferences'' about Randall's feelings for Trump that are not in evidence from the material provided - you are feeding in your own correlations and external facts, and trying to insinuate that this indicates a pattern that everyone should recognize. It does not. While this comic does mention Trump (disparagingly), it is not ''about'' him, nor is it really about Randall's feelings for him. You can tell this because Randall tends to draw stick figures related to what the comic is about. Randall's past history and support of Hillary Clinton is also irrelevant to the understanding of this comic; at best, it is trivia, but I would say it is also irrelevant trivia, since this is not a comic about Randall's political views. [[User:Hawthorn|Hawthorn]] ([[User talk:Hawthorn|talk]]) 20:58, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
+:::: This is not his first reference to Trump by his full name. He is mentioned in the bottom-left map in https://xkcd.com/2126/
 == Text to Speech? ==

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 perhaps i've been reading too much about voders lately, but may the letters and the <kbd>space</kbd> be being read out via text to speech methods? i distinctly mentally heard it in texas instrument's speak 'n' spell voice. it magnifies the intent of this comic that the text entry system could be generating speech while still requiring as much effort to use as a teletext search page. [[User:Ocæon|ocæon]] ([[User talk:Ocæon|talk]]) 13:27, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
 : I see no indication for that... if that was the message behind the comic, I think it would have been made clearer that it is actually spoken. --[[User:Lupo|Lupo]] ([[User talk:Lupo|talk]]) 10:53, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
-::i can accept that, though i would love to know if there's a style guide (cannon or reverse engineered) on randal's communication indicators; zigzag appears for computers and mobiles, though usually if it's not audio it will have a box, and if it is then there are four extra little radial lines at origin. rarely are they completely ambiguous. [[User:Ocæon|ocæon]] ([[User talk:Ocæon|talk]]) 18:41, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
+::i can accept that, though i would love to know if there's a style guide (cannon or reverse engineered) on randall's communication indicators; zigzag appears for computers and mobiles, though usually if it's not audio it will have a box, and if it is then there are four extra little radial lines at origin. rarely are they completely ambiguous. [[User:Ocæon|ocæon]] ([[User talk:Ocæon|talk]]) 18:41, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

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	perhaps i've been reading too much about voders lately, but may the letters and the <kbd>space</kbd> be being read out via text to speech methods? i distinctly mentally heard it in texas instrument's speak 'n' spell voice. it magnifies the intent of this comic that the text entry system could be generating speech while still requiring as much effort to use as a teletext search page. [[User:Ocæon\|ocæon]] ([[User talk:Ocæon\|talk]]) 13:27, 21 April 2019 (UTC)		perhaps i've been reading too much about voders lately, but may the letters and the <kbd>space</kbd> be being read out via text to speech methods? i distinctly mentally heard it in texas instrument's speak 'n' spell voice. it magnifies the intent of this comic that the text entry system could be generating speech while still requiring as much effort to use as a teletext search page. [[User:Ocæon\|ocæon]] ([[User talk:Ocæon\|talk]]) 13:27, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
	: I see no indication for that... if that was the message behind the comic, I think it would have been made clearer that it is actually spoken. --[[User:Lupo\|Lupo]] ([[User talk:Lupo\|talk]]) 10:53, 22 April 2019 (UTC)		: I see no indication for that... if that was the message behind the comic, I think it would have been made clearer that it is actually spoken. --[[User:Lupo\|Lupo]] ([[User talk:Lupo\|talk]]) 10:53, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
		+	::i can accept that, though i would love to know if there's a style guide (cannon or reverse engineered) on randal's communication indicators; zigzag appears for computers and mobiles, though usually if it's not audio it will have a box, and if it is then there are four extra little radial lines at origin. rarely are they completely ambiguous. [[User:Ocæon\|ocæon]] ([[User talk:Ocæon\|talk]]) 18:41, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

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	perhaps i've been reading too much about voders lately, but may the letters and the <kbd>space</kbd> be being read out via text to speech methods? i distinctly mentally heard it in texas instrument's speak 'n' spell voice. it magnifies the intent of this comic that the text entry system could be generating speech while still requiring as much effort to use as a teletext search page. [[User:Ocæon\|ocæon]] ([[User talk:Ocæon\|talk]]) 13:27, 21 April 2019 (UTC)		perhaps i've been reading too much about voders lately, but may the letters and the <kbd>space</kbd> be being read out via text to speech methods? i distinctly mentally heard it in texas instrument's speak 'n' spell voice. it magnifies the intent of this comic that the text entry system could be generating speech while still requiring as much effort to use as a teletext search page. [[User:Ocæon\|ocæon]] ([[User talk:Ocæon\|talk]]) 13:27, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
		+	: I see no indication for that... if that was the message behind the comic, I think it would have been made clearer that it is actually spoken. --[[User:Lupo\|Lupo]] ([[User talk:Lupo\|talk]]) 10:53, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

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	::That's not the point. You're right it's absolutely clear that Randall is against Trump. But what remains highly debatable is that all these comics you think/claim to be connected to this fact actually are connected to that fact. [[User:Elektrizikekswerk\|Elektrizikekswerk]] ([[User talk:Elektrizikekswerk\|talk]]) 14:33, 18 April 2019 (UTC)		::That's not the point. You're right it's absolutely clear that Randall is against Trump. But what remains highly debatable is that all these comics you think/claim to be connected to this fact actually are connected to that fact. [[User:Elektrizikekswerk\|Elektrizikekswerk]] ([[User talk:Elektrizikekswerk\|talk]]) 14:33, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
	:::Randall is not a fan of Trump. That is perfectly clear and unobjectionable. However, you (Kynde) are drawing ''specific inferences'' about Randall's feelings for Trump that are not in evidence from the material provided - you are feeding in your own correlations and external facts, and trying to insinuate that this indicates a pattern that everyone should recognize. It does not. While this comic does mention Trump (disparagingly), it is not ''about'' him, nor is it really about Randall's feelings for him. You can tell this because Randall tends to draw stick figures related to what the comic is about. Randall's past history and support of Hillary Clinton is also irrelevant to the understanding of this comic; at best, it is trivia, but I would say it is also irrelevant trivia, since this is not a comic about Randall's political views. [[User:Hawthorn\|Hawthorn]] ([[User talk:Hawthorn\|talk]]) 20:58, 18 April 2019 (UTC)		:::Randall is not a fan of Trump. That is perfectly clear and unobjectionable. However, you (Kynde) are drawing ''specific inferences'' about Randall's feelings for Trump that are not in evidence from the material provided - you are feeding in your own correlations and external facts, and trying to insinuate that this indicates a pattern that everyone should recognize. It does not. While this comic does mention Trump (disparagingly), it is not ''about'' him, nor is it really about Randall's feelings for him. You can tell this because Randall tends to draw stick figures related to what the comic is about. Randall's past history and support of Hillary Clinton is also irrelevant to the understanding of this comic; at best, it is trivia, but I would say it is also irrelevant trivia, since this is not a comic about Randall's political views. [[User:Hawthorn\|Hawthorn]] ([[User talk:Hawthorn\|talk]]) 20:58, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
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		+	== Text to Speech? ==
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		+	perhaps i've been reading too much about voders lately, but may the letters and the <kbd>space</kbd> be being read out via text to speech methods? i distinctly mentally heard it in texas instrument's speak 'n' spell voice. it magnifies the intent of this comic that the text entry system could be generating speech while still requiring as much effort to use as a teletext search page. [[User:Ocæon\|ocæon]] ([[User talk:Ocæon\|talk]]) 13:27, 21 April 2019 (UTC)

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 : OMG... This page has grown since the last time I checked. And I agree, many of these "connections" to Trump's presidency are really far fetched at best... [[User:Elektrizikekswerk|Elektrizikekswerk]] ([[User talk:Elektrizikekswerk|talk]]) 11:47, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
 :Yes I think it is, as he has been sad over many things that references to something Trump did. And he has references directly to Hillary. And he has mentioned many presidents in his comics. But this time he finally uses his name in a comic that is MAINLY about how weird it is that Americans choose Trump. I think his comics makes it extremely clear that he has an aversion against Trump. If you cannot see this you are either for Trump, or just blind. There are so many hints, and that he is certain about human created global warming is given from his Earth Temperature Timeline, and Trump is going against all attempts to stop this trend. If you still have any doubt Randall is against him, then this is like a religious discussion where I cannot get through to you... --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 13:28, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
-:: That's not the point. You're right it's absolutely clear that Randall is against Trump. But what remains highly debatable is that all these comics you think/claim to be connected to this fact actually are connected to that fact. [[User:Elektrizikekswerk|Elektrizikekswerk]] ([[User talk:Elektrizikekswerk|talk]]) 14:33, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
+::That's not the point. You're right it's absolutely clear that Randall is against Trump. But what remains highly debatable is that all these comics you think/claim to be connected to this fact actually are connected to that fact. [[User:Elektrizikekswerk|Elektrizikekswerk]] ([[User talk:Elektrizikekswerk|talk]]) 14:33, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

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	: OMG... This page has grown since the last time I checked. And I agree, many of these "connections" to Trump's presidency are really far fetched at best... [[User:Elektrizikekswerk\|Elektrizikekswerk]] ([[User talk:Elektrizikekswerk\|talk]]) 11:47, 18 April 2019 (UTC)		: OMG... This page has grown since the last time I checked. And I agree, many of these "connections" to Trump's presidency are really far fetched at best... [[User:Elektrizikekswerk\|Elektrizikekswerk]] ([[User talk:Elektrizikekswerk\|talk]]) 11:47, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
	:Yes I think it is, as he has been sad over many things that references to something Trump did. And he has references directly to Hillary. And he has mentioned many presidents in his comics. But this time he finally uses his name in a comic that is MAINLY about how weird it is that Americans choose Trump. I think his comics makes it extremely clear that he has an aversion against Trump. If you cannot see this you are either for Trump, or just blind. There are so many hints, and that he is certain about human created global warming is given from his Earth Temperature Timeline, and Trump is going against all attempts to stop this trend. If you still have any doubt Randall is against him, then this is like a religious discussion where I cannot get through to you... --[[User:Kynde\|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde\|talk]]) 13:28, 18 April 2019 (UTC)		:Yes I think it is, as he has been sad over many things that references to something Trump did. And he has references directly to Hillary. And he has mentioned many presidents in his comics. But this time he finally uses his name in a comic that is MAINLY about how weird it is that Americans choose Trump. I think his comics makes it extremely clear that he has an aversion against Trump. If you cannot see this you are either for Trump, or just blind. There are so many hints, and that he is certain about human created global warming is given from his Earth Temperature Timeline, and Trump is going against all attempts to stop this trend. If you still have any doubt Randall is against him, then this is like a religious discussion where I cannot get through to you... --[[User:Kynde\|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde\|talk]]) 13:28, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
		+	:: That's not the point. You're right it's absolutely clear that Randall is against Trump. But what remains highly debatable is that all these comics you think/claim to be connected to this fact actually are connected to that fact. [[User:Elektrizikekswerk\|Elektrizikekswerk]] ([[User talk:Elektrizikekswerk\|talk]]) 14:33, 18 April 2019 (UTC)