Talk:2176: How Hacking Works - Revision history

CalibansCreations at 08:46, 14 October 2024

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172.69.33.251 at 07:31, 27 July 2019

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172.68.255.14 at 14:00, 20 July 2019

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172.68.255.14 at 13:59, 20 July 2019

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N0lqu: Undo revision 176793 by N0lqu (talk)

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Undo revision 176793 by N0lqu (talk)

N0lqu at 17:08, 17 July 2019

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Ianrbibtitlht at 12:25, 17 July 2019

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162.158.214.82 at 11:09, 17 July 2019

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Youforgotthisthing at 16:28, 16 July 2019

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172.68.50.36 at 16:15, 16 July 2019

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	:He's picking up pizza for the crew! [[User:Ianrbibtitlht\|Ianrbibtitlht]] ([[User talk:Ianrbibtitlht\|talk]]) 12:25, 17 July 2019 (UTC)		:He's picking up pizza for the crew! [[User:Ianrbibtitlht\|Ianrbibtitlht]] ([[User talk:Ianrbibtitlht\|talk]]) 12:25, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
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 Anyone has idea why Randall keeps ignoring existence of password managers? [[Special:Contributions/162.158.103.147|162.158.103.147]] 07:31, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
+:Because some people don’t use them? [[Special:Contributions/172.69.33.251|172.69.33.251]] 07:31, 27 July 2019 (UTC)
 I have to say, I'm not aware of anyone who thinks hacking is as Randall describes. I would have thought that most people would mistakenly think hacking is about typing complex green code onto a screen until a message pops up saying "ACCESS GRANTED". [[User:Hawthorn|Hawthorn]] ([[User talk:Hawthorn|talk]]) 12:23, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
 :Well, some people put a lot of emphasis of never to write a password down, to prevent insider attacks. This leads to people reusing passwords, which leads to the much bigger risk as displayed here. So this comic is in line with [[936: Password Strength]] to keep superstition out of password policies and the attached mindsets of users. (Especially the combination of using long complex passwords, as in 936, and to never write them down would lead people to reuse them a lot.). Randall here mocks, that insider threats are only a threat with insiders (family, friends, coworkers, etc. unless you work (or use your device) in a public place, while the much bigger threat for everyone is anonymous hackers going for quantity. --[[User:Lupo|Lupo]] ([[User talk:Lupo|talk]]) 13:43, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

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 Note that you can sort of get the best of both words if, instead of using just common password or just password written on paper, you use password combined from those two. Online hackers wouldn't be able to hack your other accounts because all accounts have different password, while family members wouldn't be able to hack anything because they wouldn't know the common prefix to those passwords written on paper. -- [[User:Hkmaly|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly|talk]]) 22:43, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
 :Nah... I just need to 1) obtain a list of leaked passwords, 2) break into your pad/cubicle to obtain your dead-tree-list of partial passwords, 3) successfully identify the fully expanded one in the former that is the superset of the appropriate partial in the latter, 4) thusly derive the likely transformation you used, 5) apply that to all the other partials to easily h4ck 4ll ov UR 07|-|3|2 |_°9!|\|5 !!!111!!11oneoneone ...6) Profit? [[Special:Contributions/162.158.34.172|162.158.34.172]] 00:09, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
-Or just drug you and beat you with a wrench until you give up the passwords [[Special:Contributions/172.68.255.14|172.68.255.14]] 13:59, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
+::Or just drug you and beat you with a wrench until you give up the passwords [[Special:Contributions/172.68.255.14|172.68.255.14]] 13:59, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
 I'm disappointed that the template at the top want authored by "The Sharpest Tool in the Shed."  [[User:Mootstrap|Mootstrap]] ([[User talk:Mootstrap|talk]]) 02:39, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

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 Note that you can sort of get the best of both words if, instead of using just common password or just password written on paper, you use password combined from those two. Online hackers wouldn't be able to hack your other accounts because all accounts have different password, while family members wouldn't be able to hack anything because they wouldn't know the common prefix to those passwords written on paper. -- [[User:Hkmaly|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly|talk]]) 22:43, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
 :Nah... I just need to 1) obtain a list of leaked passwords, 2) break into your pad/cubicle to obtain your dead-tree-list of partial passwords, 3) successfully identify the fully expanded one in the former that is the superset of the appropriate partial in the latter, 4) thusly derive the likely transformation you used, 5) apply that to all the other partials to easily h4ck 4ll ov UR 07|-|3|2 |_°9!|\|5 !!!111!!11oneoneone ...6) Profit? [[Special:Contributions/162.158.34.172|162.158.34.172]] 00:09, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
 I'm disappointed that the template at the top want authored by "The Sharpest Tool in the Shed."  [[User:Mootstrap|Mootstrap]] ([[User talk:Mootstrap|talk]]) 02:39, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

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	:He's picking up pizza for the crew! [[User:Ianrbibtitlht\|Ianrbibtitlht]] ([[User talk:Ianrbibtitlht\|talk]]) 12:25, 17 July 2019 (UTC)		:He's picking up pizza for the crew! [[User:Ianrbibtitlht\|Ianrbibtitlht]] ([[User talk:Ianrbibtitlht\|talk]]) 12:25, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
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	I have removed the claim that "Most crimes are committed by people known to their victims, [...]". This might be true for crimes committed in the real world, but I doubt that's true for "cybercrimes" (Urgh. That term!). Please do re-add it if you have a credible source for it! ;-) [[Special:Contributions/172.68.50.36\|172.68.50.36]] 16:15, 16 July 2019 (UTC)		I have removed the claim that "Most crimes are committed by people known to their victims, [...]". This might be true for crimes committed in the real world, but I doubt that's true for "cybercrimes" (Urgh. That term!). Please do re-add it if you have a credible source for it! ;-) [[Special:Contributions/172.68.50.36\|172.68.50.36]] 16:15, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
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	There are Smash Mouth message boards? [[User:Youforgotthisthing\|Youforgotthisthing]] ([[User talk:Youforgotthisthing\|talk]]) 16:28, 16 July 2019 (UTC)		There are Smash Mouth message boards? [[User:Youforgotthisthing\|Youforgotthisthing]] ([[User talk:Youforgotthisthing\|talk]]) 16:28, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
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	I have removed the claim that "Most crimes are committed by people known to their victims, [...]". This might be true for crimes committed in the real world, but I doubt that's true for "cybercrimes" (Urgh. That term!). Please do re-add it if you have a credible source for it! ;-) [[Special:Contributions/172.68.50.36\|172.68.50.36]] 16:15, 16 July 2019 (UTC)		I have removed the claim that "Most crimes are committed by people known to their victims, [...]". This might be true for crimes committed in the real world, but I doubt that's true for "cybercrimes" (Urgh. That term!). Please do re-add it if you have a credible source for it! ;-) [[Special:Contributions/172.68.50.36\|172.68.50.36]] 16:15, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
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	I have to say, I'm not aware of anyone who thinks hacking is as Randall describes. I would have thought that most people would mistakenly think hacking is about typing complex green code onto a screen until a message pops up saying "ACCESS GRANTED". [[User:Hawthorn\|Hawthorn]] ([[User talk:Hawthorn\|talk]]) 12:23, 16 July 2019 (UTC)		I have to say, I'm not aware of anyone who thinks hacking is as Randall describes. I would have thought that most people would mistakenly think hacking is about typing complex green code onto a screen until a message pops up saying "ACCESS GRANTED". [[User:Hawthorn\|Hawthorn]] ([[User talk:Hawthorn\|talk]]) 12:23, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
	:Well, some people put a lot of emphasis of never to write a password down, to prevent insider attacks. This leads to people reusing passwords, which leads to the much bigger risk as displayed here. So this comic is in line with [[936: Password Strength]] to keep superstition out of password policies and the attached mindsets of users. (Especially the combination of using long complex passwords, as in 936, and to never write them down would lead people to reuse them a lot.). Randall here mocks, that insider threats are only a threat with insiders (family, friends, coworkers, etc. unless you work (or use your device) in a public place, while the much bigger threat for everyone is anonymous hackers going for quantity. --[[User:Lupo\|Lupo]] ([[User talk:Lupo\|talk]]) 13:43, 16 July 2019 (UTC)		:Well, some people put a lot of emphasis of never to write a password down, to prevent insider attacks. This leads to people reusing passwords, which leads to the much bigger risk as displayed here. So this comic is in line with [[936: Password Strength]] to keep superstition out of password policies and the attached mindsets of users. (Especially the combination of using long complex passwords, as in 936, and to never write them down would lead people to reuse them a lot.). Randall here mocks, that insider threats are only a threat with insiders (family, friends, coworkers, etc. unless you work (or use your device) in a public place, while the much bigger threat for everyone is anonymous hackers going for quantity. --[[User:Lupo\|Lupo]] ([[User talk:Lupo\|talk]]) 13:43, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
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		+	I have removed the claim that "Most crimes are committed by people known to their victims, [...]". This might be true for crimes committed in the real world, but I doubt that's true for "cybercrimes" (Urgh. That term!). Please do re-add it if you have a credible source for it! ;-) [[Special:Contributions/172.68.50.36\|172.68.50.36]] 16:15, 16 July 2019 (UTC)