Talk:2191: Conference Question - Revision history

172.68.110.177: Baba Yaga's relationship in folk tale

2022-08-15T13:48:09Z

Baba Yaga's relationship in folk tale

WurmWoode: Syntax o’r grammar?

2020-01-30T23:10:08Z

Syntax o’r grammar?

162.158.158.149 at 13:09, 22 August 2019

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162.158.146.166: 🐞

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Hkmaly at 22:41, 20 August 2019

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Kynde: add comment and unsigned comments added ip or signature

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add comment and unsigned comments added ip or signature

N0lqu at 13:10, 20 August 2019

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N0lqu at 13:10, 20 August 2019

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N0lqu at 13:07, 20 August 2019

2019-08-20T13:07:40Z

Divgradcurl: On friends, and bugs, and friendly bugs. Disambiguating "we".

2019-08-20T01:53:33Z

On friends, and bugs, and friendly bugs. Disambiguating "we".

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 There is a Russian Folk Tale, among those collected by Afanasyev, called "Go I don't know where, Bring back I don't know what". In that story, the archer Andrey is given several impossible tasks by a tsar who covets his beautiful wife, the last of which is to go to I don't know where and bring back I don't know what.  After journeying a vast distance and meeting his mother in law Baba Yaga, he is guided by an ancient frog across a river of fire, and is told "Over there you will find a house. Well, not so much a house as a hut.  And it is not so much of a hut as a barn."  This is I don't know where. So Beret Guy's intro to his statement may be a reference to this formulaic format. {{unsigned ip|172.68.174.22}}
 : ...his mother in law is Baba Yaga?  Did he know that?  Does the tsar know that?  Does it change matters tsar-and-beautiful-wife-wise...  (Is this story in English at all, I don't know where...)  Wikipedia knows several Baba Yaga stories (some with three Baba Yagas who don't live together, unless this is a complicated alibi) but none match this.  rja.carnegie@gmail.com [[Special:Contributions/162.158.158.209|162.158.158.209]] 00:14, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
 I think the Unforgivable Curse line in the title text is meant to reference the scene in HP&tGoF when Barty Crouch, posing as Professor Moody, demonstrates their use on spiders to the fourth years in Defense Against the Dark Arts. The curse, be it an annoyed audience member or the speaker, is to be cast on the friendly bug. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.238.83|108.162.238.83]] 21:04, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

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 :Similar to how the comic ends in a question? I think your statement is part of the joke. Less of a statement, and more of an utterance. [[User:OhFFS|OhFFS]] ([[User talk:OhFFS|talk]]) 14:28, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
 ::Do you agree it could be more of a noun phrase and a verb phrase, or perhaps merely a subject and a predicate? [[Special:Contributions/162.158.255.34|162.158.255.34]] 00:15, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
 There is a Russian Folk Tale, among those collected by Afanasyev, called "Go I don't know where, Bring back I don't know what". In that story, the archer Andrey is given several impossible tasks by a tsar who covets his beautiful wife, the last of which is to go to I don't know where and bring back I don't know what.  After journeying a vast distance and meeting his mother in law Baba Yaga, he is guided by an ancient frog across a river of fire, and is told "Over there you will find a house. Well, not so much a house as a hut.  And it is not so much of a hut as a barn."  This is I don't know where. So Beret Guy's intro to his statement may be a reference to this formulaic format. {{unsigned ip|172.68.174.22}}

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	I have created a [[:Category:Harry Potter]] and found almost 20 comics to go there. And also a few that could have gone there, but where it was uncertain that Harry was the reference. --[[User:Kynde\|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde\|talk]]) 13:44, 20 August 2019 (UTC)		I have created a [[:Category:Harry Potter]] and found almost 20 comics to go there. And also a few that could have gone there, but where it was uncertain that Harry was the reference. --[[User:Kynde\|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde\|talk]]) 13:44, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
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		+	I believe the reference to "It might be the person simply blowing." is technically inaccurate. The movement of air (i.e. breeze/wind or someone exhaling air/blowing) is not the same phenomenon as a sound pressure wave propagating through air. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.158.149\|162.158.158.149]] 13:09, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

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 :^^^ Agreed.  The "we" in "now we're friends" means Beret Guy and the bug, not Beret Guy and the speaker.  It is, after all, a friendly bug. {{unsigned|Divgradcurl}}
 ::I also now agree, and I wrote the original wording.  Thanks for fixing it, whoever fixed it.  Oh, and remember to sign your comments with the four ~ thingies. [[User:N0lqu|-boB]] ([[User talk:N0lqu|talk]]) 13:07, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
 I have created a [[:Category:Harry Potter]] and found almost 20 comics to go there. And also a few that could have gone there, but where it was uncertain that Harry was the reference. --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 13:44, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

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	:::: Re-reading, incantation already is a magic spell, probably. In current use, malediction can be either speaking against someone or something, or its original meaning of actual malicious verbal magic. So I suppose Word of Power has to be more than a magic word... I found a couple of references in the world of H. P. Lovecraft but those I traced were 1970s or later, actually after D-and-D. So, not definite. rja.carnegie@gmail.com [[Special:Contributions/162.158.158.209\|162.158.158.209]] 00:14, 20 August 2019 (UTC)		:::: Re-reading, incantation already is a magic spell, probably. In current use, malediction can be either speaking against someone or something, or its original meaning of actual malicious verbal magic. So I suppose Word of Power has to be more than a magic word... I found a couple of references in the world of H. P. Lovecraft but those I traced were 1970s or later, actually after D-and-D. So, not definite. rja.carnegie@gmail.com [[Special:Contributions/162.158.158.209\|162.158.158.209]] 00:14, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
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		+	::Note that Unforgivable Curse will not get you just "little jail time". It gets you life sentence in Azkaban. -- [[User:Hkmaly\|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly\|talk]]) 22:41, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

	One thing I feel needs to be said is that this behavior shows a lack of linguistic skill, because any statement can always be phrased in the form of a question, e.g, most easily, "Do you agree that _______?" Or by asking about the details of the comment in which the commenter is most interested in emphasizing or soliciting a response. That this kind of thing happens among advanced academics shows how narcissistic and tone-deaf even otherwise intelligent people can often be. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.255.34\|162.158.255.34]] 12:20, 19 August 2019 (UTC)		One thing I feel needs to be said is that this behavior shows a lack of linguistic skill, because any statement can always be phrased in the form of a question, e.g, most easily, "Do you agree that _______?" Or by asking about the details of the comment in which the commenter is most interested in emphasizing or soliciting a response. That this kind of thing happens among advanced academics shows how narcissistic and tone-deaf even otherwise intelligent people can often be. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.255.34\|162.158.255.34]] 12:20, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

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	^^^ Agreed. The "we" in "now we're friends" means Beret Guy and the bug, not Beret Guy and the speaker. It is, after all, a friendly bug.		^^^ Agreed. The "we" in "now we're friends" means Beret Guy and the bug, not Beret Guy and the speaker. It is, after all, a friendly bug.
−	: I also now agree, and I wrote the original wording. Thanks for fixing it, whoever ~~fix~~ it. Oh, and remember to sign your comments with the four ~ thingies. [[User:N0lqu\|-boB]] ([[User talk:N0lqu\|talk]]) 13:07, 20 August 2019 (UTC)	+	: I also now agree, and I wrote the original wording. Thanks for fixing it, whoever fixed it. Oh, and remember to sign your comments with the four ~ thingies. [[User:N0lqu\|-boB]] ([[User talk:N0lqu\|talk]]) 13:07, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

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	^^^ Agreed. The "we" in "now we're friends" means Beret Guy and the bug, not Beret Guy and the speaker. It is, after all, a friendly bug.		^^^ Agreed. The "we" in "now we're friends" means Beret Guy and the bug, not Beret Guy and the speaker. It is, after all, a friendly bug.
		+	: I also now agree, and I wrote the original wording. Thanks for fixing it. [[User:N0lqu\|-boB]] ([[User talk:N0lqu\|talk]]) 13:07, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

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	I don't think Beret Guy is trying to say that he and the speaker are friends in his last line, I'm pretty sure he's saying that he's friends with the bug he found.		I don't think Beret Guy is trying to say that he and the speaker are friends in his last line, I'm pretty sure he's saying that he's friends with the bug he found.
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		+	^^^ Agreed. The "we" in "now we're friends" means Beret Guy and the bug, not Beret Guy and the speaker. It is, after all, a friendly bug.