Talk:2258: Solar System Changes - Revision history

47.151.250.73 at 18:24, 18 November 2025

2025-11-18T18:24:08Z

L-Space Traveler: Added to the discussion of the anthropomorphization of Jupiter

2023-10-01T13:00:59Z

Added to the discussion of the anthropomorphization of Jupiter

162.158.63.64 at 16:35, 30 January 2020

2020-01-30T16:35:47Z

172.68.189.163: /* Anton 'What Da Math' Petrov tribute video */ new section

2020-01-28T06:07:51Z

‎Anton 'What Da Math' Petrov tribute video: new section

Bischoff: Changes have consequences

2020-01-25T11:20:55Z

Changes have consequences

172.68.142.209: reply

2020-01-24T22:07:31Z

172.69.69.82: the joke is straightforward

2020-01-24T18:35:41Z

the joke is straightforward

162.158.62.119: added sig

2020-01-24T15:40:46Z

added sig

162.158.62.119: Venus Moon stuff

2020-01-24T15:40:07Z

Venus Moon stuff

162.158.158.233 at 10:28, 24 January 2020

2020-01-24T10:28:04Z

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	"Jaturn" seems the lean too heavily of Saturn for the name, giving Jupiter short-shrift, and we all know what a bitch Jupiter can be (see title text). The name should be "Jupurn". [[Special:Contributions/162.158.63.64\|162.158.63.64]] 16:35, 30 January 2020 (UTC)		"Jaturn" seems the lean too heavily of Saturn for the name, giving Jupiter short-shrift, and we all know what a bitch Jupiter can be (see title text). The name should be "Jupurn". [[Special:Contributions/162.158.63.64\|162.158.63.64]] 16:35, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
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 ::::Honestly, I originally read the title text, got confused due to its wording, and went with the second interpretation ("a Jupiter fan is within earshot and knows about its rings"). However it didn't quite feel right, and reading it again, the first interpretation ("a person knows that an anthropomorphized Jupiter is within earshot and wishes to placate him") makes just as much sense - in fact, grammatically, it makes ''more'' sense, since otherwise you have to suppose that Randall intended this weird combination of speech attribution and stage direction. However, it makes less sense ''in context'', since the comic is talking about real planets and didn't mention gods or anthropomorphized planets at all. Randall simply seems to have been clumsy with his wording. [[User:Hawthorn|Hawthorn]] ([[User talk:Hawthorn|talk]]) 09:58, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
 :::::The joke is that ''nobody'' actually thinks Jupiter's ring system is all that impressive, and the only person who would say that it ''is'' impressive is literally concerned that Jupiter itself can hear them. If Randall had meant someone who knows ''about'' Jupiter, he would not have left out the word "about" (not to mention he would have formatted the title text differently). [[Special:Contributions/172.69.69.82|172.69.69.82]] 18:35, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
 Someone needs to make a Kopernicus mod in KSP and load it with Principia to see how long it lasts. Assume scales are close to the real one. {{unsigned ip|172.69.63.47}}

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		+	"Jaturn" seems the lean too heavily of Saturn for the name, giving Jupiter short-shrift, and we all know what a bitch Jupiter can be (see title text). The name should be "Jupurn". [[Special:Contributions/162.158.63.64\|162.158.63.64]] 16:35, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

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	Can anyone make an educated guess about which of the changes, if implemented individually, would have the largest impact on the solar system as a whole? I'm guessing the largest impact on humans would be the mars-moon thing.[[User:Bischoff\|Bischoff]] ([[User talk:Bischoff\|talk]]) 11:20, 25 January 2020 (UTC)		Can anyone make an educated guess about which of the changes, if implemented individually, would have the largest impact on the solar system as a whole? I'm guessing the largest impact on humans would be the mars-moon thing.[[User:Bischoff\|Bischoff]] ([[User talk:Bischoff\|talk]]) 11:20, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
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		+	== Anton 'What Da Math' Petrov tribute video ==
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		+	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zVznheFthY <-- please see. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.189.163\|172.68.189.163]] 06:07, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

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	:Actually, Neptune already has a very impressive ring system![[Special:Contributions/162.158.158.233\|162.158.158.233]] 10:28, 24 January 2020 (UTC)		:Actually, Neptune already has a very impressive ring system![[Special:Contributions/162.158.158.233\|162.158.158.233]] 10:28, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
	::It's gone now, you can be honest. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.142.209\|172.68.142.209]] 22:07, 24 January 2020 (UTC)		::It's gone now, you can be honest. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.142.209\|172.68.142.209]] 22:07, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
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		+	Can anyone make an educated guess about which of the changes, if implemented individually, would have the largest impact on the solar system as a whole? I'm guessing the largest impact on humans would be the mars-moon thing.[[User:Bischoff\|Bischoff]] ([[User talk:Bischoff\|talk]]) 11:20, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

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	You know, for all my complaints about the Solar System, I always thought Jupiter and Saturn were well-balanced. Each of them has something interesting about it, and we don’t get too much of an overload of features from either one. In order to maintain variety while keeping the number of gas giants to a minimum, I think Neptune should get the rings. Jupiter can keep the moons, though, and otherwise I support this revision. —[[Special:Contributions/172.69.33.137\|172.69.33.137]] 19:53, 23 January 2020 (UTC)		You know, for all my complaints about the Solar System, I always thought Jupiter and Saturn were well-balanced. Each of them has something interesting about it, and we don’t get too much of an overload of features from either one. In order to maintain variety while keeping the number of gas giants to a minimum, I think Neptune should get the rings. Jupiter can keep the moons, though, and otherwise I support this revision. —[[Special:Contributions/172.69.33.137\|172.69.33.137]] 19:53, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
	:Actually, Neptune already has a very impressive ring system![[Special:Contributions/162.158.158.233\|162.158.158.233]] 10:28, 24 January 2020 (UTC)		:Actually, Neptune already has a very impressive ring system![[Special:Contributions/162.158.158.233\|162.158.158.233]] 10:28, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
		+	::It's gone now, you can be honest. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.142.209\|172.68.142.209]] 22:07, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

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 Note that in future, we may be actually able to implement some of those changes ... however, at that point the consolidation of missions to Moon and Mars wouldn't be relevant :-). Also, I would be against: most of those changes would be likely to make our solar system considerably less stable. Except Venus would really deserve some moon. Just small one, it doesn't need to be as big as ours. Also, we should light up Jupiter, to warm it's moons (this is one of {{w|Arthur C. Clarke|Clarke}}'s ideas). -- [[User:Hkmaly|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly|talk]]) 00:37, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
 :If Venus god a Moon it would most likely quickly be ejected by the interactions of the Sun, it is too close to the Sun not to see it as a three body problem, and that will always be chaotic. --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 12:54, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
-::"Quickly ejected" is probably an overstatement; even Venus has a significant Hill sphere, and any significant moon would first spiral inward due to losing tidal energy "spinning up" the rotational velocity of Venus (a huge benefit!). the Sun would probably act to make the moon's orbit eccentric & it could either crash into Venus or get ripped away, but I give it half a billion years or more. (but with a bit of curation the moon could give Venus a nice 24 hour day, and with that a magnetic field, who knows!)
+::"Quickly ejected" is probably an overstatement; even Venus has a significant Hill sphere, and any significant moon would first spiral inward due to losing tidal energy "spinning up" the rotational velocity of Venus (a huge benefit!). the Sun would probably act to make the moon's orbit eccentric & it could either crash into Venus or get ripped away, but I give it half a billion years or more. (but with a bit of curation the moon could give Venus a nice 24 hour day, and with that a magnetic field, who knows!) [[Special:Contributions/162.158.62.119|162.158.62.119]] 15:40, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
 Wow - I only just noticed that "Jaturn" has Saturn's hexagon at the top. Should this be highlighted in the table? After all, it is cool science: https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/2010-07-06 [[Special:Contributions/162.158.74.155|162.158.74.155]] 02:04, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

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	You know, for all my complaints about the Solar System, I always thought Jupiter and Saturn were well-balanced. Each of them has something interesting about it, and we don’t get too much of an overload of features from either one. In order to maintain variety while keeping the number of gas giants to a minimum, I think Neptune should get the rings. Jupiter can keep the moons, though, and otherwise I support this revision. —[[Special:Contributions/172.69.33.137\|172.69.33.137]] 19:53, 23 January 2020 (UTC)		You know, for all my complaints about the Solar System, I always thought Jupiter and Saturn were well-balanced. Each of them has something interesting about it, and we don’t get too much of an overload of features from either one. In order to maintain variety while keeping the number of gas giants to a minimum, I think Neptune should get the rings. Jupiter can keep the moons, though, and otherwise I support this revision. —[[Special:Contributions/172.69.33.137\|172.69.33.137]] 19:53, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
		+	:Actually, Neptune already has a very impressive ring system![[Special:Contributions/162.158.158.233\|162.158.158.233]] 10:28, 24 January 2020 (UTC)