Talk:2304: Preprint - Revision history

141.101.77.236: Added another possibility to sarcastically pronounce circled (R) sign.

2020-05-14T16:39:35Z

Added another possibility to sarcastically pronounce circled (R) sign.

162.158.158.163 at 00:08, 13 May 2020

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162.158.6.232 at 10:21, 12 May 2020

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108.162.216.128 at 20:35, 11 May 2020

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108.162.216.128 at 20:34, 11 May 2020

2020-05-11T20:34:58Z

Iggynelix at 12:05, 11 May 2020

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PotatoGod: Circledar

2020-05-10T17:27:18Z

Circledar

PotatoGod: Mention how PDFs are widely used in non-professional circles (education) in 2020

2020-05-10T17:22:15Z

Mention how PDFs are widely used in non-professional circles (education) in 2020

162.158.159.142: Accidentally cut this out of the pre-edit of my ramble. Nobody cares, though, so maybe I shouldn't have bothered.

2020-05-10T11:35:09Z

Accidentally cut this out of the pre-edit of my ramble. Nobody cares, though, so maybe I shouldn't have bothered.

162.158.159.142 at 11:30, 10 May 2020

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 ::: Perhaps we can use a little of both and create a new [[927:_Standards|standard]] for sarcastically pronouncing it as "circled, arrr!" [[User:Iggynelix|Iggynelix]] ([[User talk:Iggynelix|talk]]) 12:05, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
 :::: ReGiStErEd TrAdEmArK!  [[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.128|108.162.216.128]] 20:34, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
 In 2020 I use pdf to put documents with tables onto a website, because html exports from editors are voluminous and brittle. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.6.118|162.158.6.118]] 10:32, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

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 :As someone who regularly takes tables ''from'' PDF in order to put them into spreadsheets for further use, some people don't do me any favours by that method. Among the problems, if the table setter didn't pay attention to the column widths then the copied-out text of two adjacent cells that don't ''appear'' to overlap each other will interlace at a character level and need editing back to separate entites. And then there's the inconsistencies of Header rows atop the table and/or atop the next newpage the table splits over. I could run a quick script on (X)HTML tables, and get it perfectly for my needs. CSV, or even TabSV, would actually be my preferred transport format (i.e. ''no'' format, just pure layout without even spanned/merged cells, and I can redo what needs redoing on the final redo), but I can't ever seem to get them to do that for me despite having the data almost in that form prior to the PDFing... Grrrr. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.159.142|162.158.159.142]] 11:30, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
 :: I feel your pain.  I receive pdf documents from a financial professional, where an A4 landscape page seems to have about five two-column-wide tables side-by-side, and I'm still deciding what kind of manipulation to do, to get it into CSV and do some analysis. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.6.232|162.158.6.232]] 10:21, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
 I think Randall's last point (no unprofessional humans use PDFs in 2020) is very wrong. Especially due to the coronavirus, all college classes have switched to online assignment submissions, and the teachers only accept PDF submissions (although, annoyingly, they give the original template files in .doc format!) I would NOT trust random college student's assignment submissions as a reputable information source! [[User:PotatoGod|PotatoGod]] ([[User talk:PotatoGod|talk]]) 17:22, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

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 In 2020 I use pdf to put documents with tables onto a website, because html exports from editors are voluminous and brittle. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.6.118|162.158.6.118]] 10:32, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
 :As someone who regularly takes tables ''from'' PDF in order to put them into spreadsheets for further use, some people don't do me any favours by that method. Among the problems, if the table setter didn't pay attention to the column widths then the copied-out text of two adjacent cells that don't ''appear'' to overlap each other will interlace at a character level and need editing back to separate entites. And then there's the inconsistencies of Header rows atop the table and/or atop the next newpage the table splits over. I could run a quick script on (X)HTML tables, and get it perfectly for my needs. CSV, or even TabSV, would actually be my preferred transport format (i.e. ''no'' format, just pure layout without even spanned/merged cells, and I can redo what needs redoing on the final redo), but I can't ever seem to get them to do that for me despite having the data almost in that form prior to the PDFing... Grrrr. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.159.142|162.158.159.142]] 11:30, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
 I think Randall's last point (no unprofessional humans use PDFs in 2020) is very wrong. Especially due to the coronavirus, all college classes have switched to online assignment submissions, and the teachers only accept PDF submissions (although, annoyingly, they give the original template files in .doc format!) I would NOT trust random college student's assignment submissions as a reputable information source! [[User:PotatoGod|PotatoGod]] ([[User talk:PotatoGod|talk]]) 17:22, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

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 ::Perhaps they'd go with something like "R in a circle" or "Circled R" (pronounced "Circledar"). [[User:PotatoGod|PotatoGod]] ([[User talk:PotatoGod|talk]]) 17:27, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
 ::: Perhaps we can use a little of both and create a new [[927:_Standards|standard]] for sarcastically pronouncing it as "circled, arrr!" [[User:Iggynelix|Iggynelix]] ([[User talk:Iggynelix|talk]]) 12:05, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
-:::: I always pictured it as saying "registered trademark" in the most exasperated way possible.  [[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.128|108.162.216.128]] 20:34, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
+:::: ReGiStErEd TrAdEmArK!  [[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.128|108.162.216.128]] 20:34, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
 In 2020 I use pdf to put documents with tables onto a website, because html exports from editors are voluminous and brittle. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.6.118|162.158.6.118]] 10:32, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

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 ::Perhaps they'd go with something like "R in a circle" or "Circled R" (pronounced "Circledar"). [[User:PotatoGod|PotatoGod]] ([[User talk:PotatoGod|talk]]) 17:27, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
 ::: Perhaps we can use a little of both and create a new [[927:_Standards|standard]] for sarcastically pronouncing it as "circled, arrr!" [[User:Iggynelix|Iggynelix]] ([[User talk:Iggynelix|talk]]) 12:05, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
 In 2020 I use pdf to put documents with tables onto a website, because html exports from editors are voluminous and brittle. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.6.118|162.158.6.118]] 10:32, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

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 Is "sarcastically pronouncing the registered trademark symbol" meant as pronouncing it "arr" in the way pirates talk? [[User:Bischoff|Bischoff]] ([[User talk:Bischoff|talk]]) 15:00, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
 :I would expect professional news anchors can come with something even more sarcastic. -- [[User:Hkmaly|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly|talk]]) 01:08, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
 In 2020 I use pdf to put documents with tables onto a website, because html exports from editors are voluminous and brittle. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.6.118|162.158.6.118]] 10:32, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

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	:As someone who regularly takes tables ''from'' PDF in order to put them into spreadsheets for further use, some people don't do me any favours by that method. Among the problems, if the table setter didn't pay attention to the column widths then the copied-out text of two adjacent cells that don't ''appear'' to overlap each other will interlace at a character level and need editing back to separate entites. And then there's the inconsistencies of Header rows atop the table and/or atop the next newpage the table splits over. I could run a quick script on (X)HTML tables, and get it perfectly for my needs. CSV, or even TabSV, would actually be my preferred transport format (i.e. ''no'' format, just pure layout without even spanned/merged cells, and I can redo what needs redoing on the final redo), but I can't ever seem to get them to do that for me despite having the data almost in that form prior to the PDFing... Grrrr. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.159.142\|162.158.159.142]] 11:30, 10 May 2020 (UTC)		:As someone who regularly takes tables ''from'' PDF in order to put them into spreadsheets for further use, some people don't do me any favours by that method. Among the problems, if the table setter didn't pay attention to the column widths then the copied-out text of two adjacent cells that don't ''appear'' to overlap each other will interlace at a character level and need editing back to separate entites. And then there's the inconsistencies of Header rows atop the table and/or atop the next newpage the table splits over. I could run a quick script on (X)HTML tables, and get it perfectly for my needs. CSV, or even TabSV, would actually be my preferred transport format (i.e. ''no'' format, just pure layout without even spanned/merged cells, and I can redo what needs redoing on the final redo), but I can't ever seem to get them to do that for me despite having the data almost in that form prior to the PDFing... Grrrr. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.159.142\|162.158.159.142]] 11:30, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
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		+	I think Randall's last point (no unprofessional humans use PDFs in 2020) is very wrong. Especially due to the coronavirus, all college classes have switched to online assignment submissions, and the teachers only accept PDF submissions (although, annoyingly, they give the original template files in .doc format!) I would NOT trust random college student's assignment submissions as a reputable information source! [[User:PotatoGod\|PotatoGod]] ([[User talk:PotatoGod\|talk]]) 17:22, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

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−	:As someone who regularly takes tables ''from'' PDF in order to put them into spreadsheets for further use, some people don't do me any favours by that method. Among the problems, if the table setter didn't pay attention to the column widths then the copied-out text of two adjacent cells that don't ''appear'' to overlap each other will interlace at a character level and need editing back to separate entites. And then there's the inconsistencies of Header rows atop the table and/or atop the next newpage the table splits over. CSV, or even TabSV, would be my preferred transport format (i.e. ''no'' format, just pure layout without even spanned/merged cells, and I can redo what needs redoing on the final redo), but I can't ever seem to get them to do that for me despite having the data almost in that form prior to the PDFing... Grrrr. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.159.142\|162.158.159.142]] 11:30, 10 May 2020 (UTC)	+	:As someone who regularly takes tables ''from'' PDF in order to put them into spreadsheets for further use, some people don't do me any favours by that method. Among the problems, if the table setter didn't pay attention to the column widths then the copied-out text of two adjacent cells that don't ''appear'' to overlap each other will interlace at a character level and need editing back to separate entites. And then there's the inconsistencies of Header rows atop the table and/or atop the next newpage the table splits over. I could run a quick script on (X)HTML tables, and get it perfectly for my needs. CSV, or even TabSV, would actually be my preferred transport format (i.e. ''no'' format, just pure layout without even spanned/merged cells, and I can redo what needs redoing on the final redo), but I can't ever seem to get them to do that for me despite having the data almost in that form prior to the PDFing... Grrrr. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.159.142\|162.158.159.142]] 11:30, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

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		+	:As someone who regularly takes tables ''from'' PDF in order to put them into spreadsheets for further use, some people don't do me any favours by that method. Among the problems, if the table setter didn't pay attention to the column widths then the copied-out text of two adjacent cells that don't ''appear'' to overlap each other will interlace at a character level and need editing back to separate entites. And then there's the inconsistencies of Header rows atop the table and/or atop the next newpage the table splits over. CSV, or even TabSV, would be my preferred transport format (i.e. ''no'' format, just pure layout without even spanned/merged cells, and I can redo what needs redoing on the final redo), but I can't ever seem to get them to do that for me despite having the data almost in that form prior to the PDFing... Grrrr. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.159.142\|162.158.159.142]] 11:30, 10 May 2020 (UTC)