Talk:2324: Old Days 2 - Revision history

An user who has no account yet at 21:14, 5 September 2023

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172.68.182.158 at 08:06, 29 June 2020

2020-06-29T08:06:35Z

Prosfilaes at 01:52, 29 June 2020

2020-06-29T01:52:52Z

162.158.158.249 at 10:30, 27 June 2020

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Cellocgw at 14:08, 26 June 2020

2020-06-26T14:08:36Z

172.69.63.125 at 13:45, 26 June 2020

2020-06-26T13:45:18Z

162.158.183.183 at 09:08, 26 June 2020

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172.68.50.50 at 08:46, 26 June 2020

2020-06-26T08:46:20Z

108.162.245.28: Contents of floppy would tell ice-cream truck driver what to Git. Station wagon full of tapes

2020-06-26T00:41:03Z

Contents of floppy would tell ice-cream truck driver what to Git. Station wagon full of tapes

Hkmaly at 00:21, 26 June 2020

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	"For example, out of 256 possible identifiers for partition type shared between all operating systems running on IBM PC compatible hardware, 65 entries are allocated to miscellaneous variants of FAT and NTFS systems, 38 of them originating from Microsoft itself - including esoteric variants like "Corrupted fault-tolerant FAT16B mirrored master volume."" ? This doesn't really seem to be pertinent. A private listing of numbers used internally by Microsoft and IBM, where Microsoft uses 15%? (Surely how many other people used is irrelevant.)--[[User:Prosfilaes\|Prosfilaes]] ([[User talk:Prosfilaes\|talk]]) 01:52, 29 June 2020 (UTC)		"For example, out of 256 possible identifiers for partition type shared between all operating systems running on IBM PC compatible hardware, 65 entries are allocated to miscellaneous variants of FAT and NTFS systems, 38 of them originating from Microsoft itself - including esoteric variants like "Corrupted fault-tolerant FAT16B mirrored master volume."" ? This doesn't really seem to be pertinent. A private listing of numbers used internally by Microsoft and IBM, where Microsoft uses 15%? (Surely how many other people used is irrelevant.)--[[User:Prosfilaes\|Prosfilaes]] ([[User talk:Prosfilaes\|talk]]) 01:52, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
	: It isn't just "private listing used internally", it's the standard PC partition table, used by ''all'' operating systems that run on PC. "Surely how many other people used is irrelevant" is exactly this sort of Microsoft arrogance that earned them so much hate in the IT community, treating other operating systems as unimportant and irrelevant (e.g. happily overwriting the MBR with a bootloader that only allows booting Windows, making any co-existing OS inaccessible until you fix the MBR manually, being the only OS family on PC that didn't dual-boot out-of-the-box). [[Special:Contributions/172.68.182.158\|172.68.182.158]] 08:06, 29 June 2020 (UTC)		: It isn't just "private listing used internally", it's the standard PC partition table, used by ''all'' operating systems that run on PC. "Surely how many other people used is irrelevant" is exactly this sort of Microsoft arrogance that earned them so much hate in the IT community, treating other operating systems as unimportant and irrelevant (e.g. happily overwriting the MBR with a bootloader that only allows booting Windows, making any co-existing OS inaccessible until you fix the MBR manually, being the only OS family on PC that didn't dual-boot out-of-the-box). [[Special:Contributions/172.68.182.158\|172.68.182.158]] 08:06, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
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		+	i have a floppy and an icecream truck passes by my street every week in summer...
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		+	hmmmm... [[User:An user who has no account yet\|An user who has no account yet]] ([[User talk:An user who has no account yet\|talk]]) 21:14, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

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	"For example, out of 256 possible identifiers for partition type shared between all operating systems running on IBM PC compatible hardware, 65 entries are allocated to miscellaneous variants of FAT and NTFS systems, 38 of them originating from Microsoft itself - including esoteric variants like "Corrupted fault-tolerant FAT16B mirrored master volume."" ? This doesn't really seem to be pertinent. A private listing of numbers used internally by Microsoft and IBM, where Microsoft uses 15%? (Surely how many other people used is irrelevant.)--[[User:Prosfilaes\|Prosfilaes]] ([[User talk:Prosfilaes\|talk]]) 01:52, 29 June 2020 (UTC)		"For example, out of 256 possible identifiers for partition type shared between all operating systems running on IBM PC compatible hardware, 65 entries are allocated to miscellaneous variants of FAT and NTFS systems, 38 of them originating from Microsoft itself - including esoteric variants like "Corrupted fault-tolerant FAT16B mirrored master volume."" ? This doesn't really seem to be pertinent. A private listing of numbers used internally by Microsoft and IBM, where Microsoft uses 15%? (Surely how many other people used is irrelevant.)--[[User:Prosfilaes\|Prosfilaes]] ([[User talk:Prosfilaes\|talk]]) 01:52, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
		+	: It isn't just "private listing used internally", it's the standard PC partition table, used by ''all'' operating systems that run on PC. "Surely how many other people used is irrelevant" is exactly this sort of Microsoft arrogance that earned them so much hate in the IT community, treating other operating systems as unimportant and irrelevant (e.g. happily overwriting the MBR with a bootloader that only allows booting Windows, making any co-existing OS inaccessible until you fix the MBR manually, being the only OS family on PC that didn't dual-boot out-of-the-box). [[Special:Contributions/172.68.182.158\|172.68.182.158]] 08:06, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

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	"And it's not likely that any punch patterns used in computer coding would be interpretable as a suitable pattern for a sweater." - Is that a CHALLENGE? [[Special:Contributions/172.68.50.50\|172.68.50.50]] 08:46, 26 June 2020 (UTC)		"And it's not likely that any punch patterns used in computer coding would be interpretable as a suitable pattern for a sweater." - Is that a CHALLENGE? [[Special:Contributions/172.68.50.50\|172.68.50.50]] 08:46, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
	: Sounds like it would make an interesting esolang. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.63.125\|172.69.63.125]] 13:45, 26 June 2020 (UTC)		: Sounds like it would make an interesting esolang. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.63.125\|172.69.63.125]] 13:45, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
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		+	"For example, out of 256 possible identifiers for partition type shared between all operating systems running on IBM PC compatible hardware, 65 entries are allocated to miscellaneous variants of FAT and NTFS systems, 38 of them originating from Microsoft itself - including esoteric variants like "Corrupted fault-tolerant FAT16B mirrored master volume."" ? This doesn't really seem to be pertinent. A private listing of numbers used internally by Microsoft and IBM, where Microsoft uses 15%? (Surely how many other people used is irrelevant.)--[[User:Prosfilaes\|Prosfilaes]] ([[User talk:Prosfilaes\|talk]]) 01:52, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

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	"It's not even likely that any punch patterns used in computer coding would be interpretable as valid sweater-creating instructions." Is anyone up to the challenge? [[User:Barmar\|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar\|talk]]) 05:04, 25 June 2020 (UTC)		"It's not even likely that any punch patterns used in computer coding would be interpretable as valid sweater-creating instructions." Is anyone up to the challenge? [[User:Barmar\|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar\|talk]]) 05:04, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
		+	: I actually very much doubt that it couldn't be interpreted. The loom will probably work just fine. It's not like those cards started with a header our CRC. It will probably not produce a meaningful pattern, but it will produce something. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.158.249\|162.158.158.249]] 10:30, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

	Wouldn't a loom produce woven textiles rather than knit garments like sweaters? Seems like an additional layer of tall tales. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.189.179\|172.68.189.179]] 06:46, 25 June 2020 (UTC)		Wouldn't a loom produce woven textiles rather than knit garments like sweaters? Seems like an additional layer of tall tales. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.189.179\|172.68.189.179]] 06:46, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

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 "It's not even likely that any punch patterns used in computer coding would be interpretable as valid sweater-creating instructions." Is anyone up to the challenge? [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 05:04, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
 Wouldn't a loom produce woven textiles rather than knit garments like sweaters? Seems like an additional layer of tall tales. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.189.179|172.68.189.179]] 06:46, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
 It seems to me that the comic is having fun with false etymologies. There is especially one article that 'explains' a lot of idiom (in the sense of making up a fanciful story), which has been debunked by Snopes

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	"And it's not likely that any punch patterns used in computer coding would be interpretable as a suitable pattern for a sweater." - Is that a CHALLENGE? [[Special:Contributions/172.68.50.50\|172.68.50.50]] 08:46, 26 June 2020 (UTC)		"And it's not likely that any punch patterns used in computer coding would be interpretable as a suitable pattern for a sweater." - Is that a CHALLENGE? [[Special:Contributions/172.68.50.50\|172.68.50.50]] 08:46, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
		+	: Sounds like it would make an interesting esolang. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.63.125\|172.69.63.125]] 13:45, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

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	Also, while mainframes didn't exactly knit sweaters when they ran your code, they did produce physical artifacts -- reams of line printer paper. [[User:Gvanrossum\|Gvanrossum]] ([[User talk:Gvanrossum\|talk]]) 04:21, 25 June 2020 (UTC)		Also, while mainframes didn't exactly knit sweaters when they ran your code, they did produce physical artifacts -- reams of line printer paper. [[User:Gvanrossum\|Gvanrossum]] ([[User talk:Gvanrossum\|talk]]) 04:21, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
		+	:Kniting a sweater out of all teletyp tapes (5 holes width could work) that where common in releationship to mainframe landline interfaces 09:08, 26 June 2020 (UTC)Knitter

	"It's not even likely that any punch patterns used in computer coding would be interpretable as valid sweater-creating instructions." Is anyone up to the challenge? [[User:Barmar\|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar\|talk]]) 05:04, 25 June 2020 (UTC)		"It's not even likely that any punch patterns used in computer coding would be interpretable as valid sweater-creating instructions." Is anyone up to the challenge? [[User:Barmar\|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar\|talk]]) 05:04, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

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	Related: {{w\|Sneakernet}} and {{w\|Delay-tolerant networking}}. In areas that are not served by communication lines/wireless communication, vehicles running on a regular route have been used as basis for network communications. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.245.28\|108.162.245.28]] 00:41, 26 June 2020 (UTC)		Related: {{w\|Sneakernet}} and {{w\|Delay-tolerant networking}}. In areas that are not served by communication lines/wireless communication, vehicles running on a regular route have been used as basis for network communications. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.245.28\|108.162.245.28]] 00:41, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
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 "Also it is unknown how it should know in which repo to create a pull request and whom to contact about it." I assumed it was akin to those USB dead drops. You give the disk to an ice cream man and hope that there is something interesting in the repo. Also the thrill is more in being one of the few insiders who know how to access it, not necessarily the value of the contents themselves.[[Special:Contributions/173.245.54.131|173.245.54.131]] 19:25, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
 : Git is a version control system, which employs and manages a centralized copy of a coding project to prevent and resolve conflicts from multiple people editing the project at once.
 No. Git itself has no concept of "centralized copy". It is 100% distributed. Human developers often choose one of the copy and call it "main", "master", or whatever. But that’s only a convention humans can agree on when using this tool. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.69.91|141.101.69.91]] 21:30, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
 :It might be notable that Git is while not first definitely version control system which popularized decentralized distributed version control systems. In old days, version control systems were centralized, with master copy on single server and developers fetching the code from it and then committing their changes back. -- [[User:Hkmaly|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly|talk]]) 00:21, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

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	: Git is a version control system, which employs and manages a centralized copy of a coding project to prevent and resolve conflicts from multiple people editing the project at once.		: Git is a version control system, which employs and manages a centralized copy of a coding project to prevent and resolve conflicts from multiple people editing the project at once.
	No. Git itself has no concept of "centralized copy". It is 100% distributed. Human developers often choose one of the copy and call it "main", "master", or whatever. But that’s only a convention humans can agree on when using this tool. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.69.91\|141.101.69.91]] 21:30, 25 June 2020 (UTC)		No. Git itself has no concept of "centralized copy". It is 100% distributed. Human developers often choose one of the copy and call it "main", "master", or whatever. But that’s only a convention humans can agree on when using this tool. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.69.91\|141.101.69.91]] 21:30, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
		+	:It might be notable that Git is while not first definitely version control system which popularized decentralized distributed version control systems. In old days, version control systems were centralized, with master copy on single server and developers fetching the code from it and then committing their changes back. -- [[User:Hkmaly\|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly\|talk]]) 00:21, 26 June 2020 (UTC)