Talk:2338: Faraday Tour - Revision history

Certified nqh at 07:58, 8 June 2023

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172.69.58.20 at 00:11, 7 June 2023

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Gunterkoenigsmann: How to bring light into a faraday cage

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How to bring light into a faraday cage

162.158.91.72 at 12:33, 12 September 2021

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Mumiemonstret at 13:21, 12 August 2020

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172.69.63.137 at 17:36, 30 July 2020

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141.101.69.185: Added comment

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108.162.216.122 at 22:12, 29 July 2020

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108.162.216.122 at 22:11, 29 July 2020

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 I think that it's dark inside because of an illusion. Maybe it's just dim inside, which the camera cannot see.
 : That sounds plausible, as does the thing with the air lock that allows you to enter the cage during an experiment, at least if the faraday cage isn't intended to span to the 10^14 hertz range; Bringing light into a dark faraday cage actually isn't a trivial task as any cable that conducts current for the lighting also conducts radio waves, many optical fibres have a surprisingly low upper limit on how much light they can carry and getting all the light from one light bulb into one fibre isn't trivial, by itself.[[User:Gunterkoenigsmann|Gunterkoenigsmann]] ([[User talk:Gunterkoenigsmann|talk]]) 02:02, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
-:: Solution: Put the thing generating the power inside the faraday cage [[User:Certified nqh|Certified nqh]] ([[User talk:Certified nqh|talk]]) 00:13, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
+:: Solution: Put the thing generating the power inside the faraday cage [[User:Certified_nqh|Me]]<sup>&#91;[[285: Wikipedian Protester|''citation needed'']]&#93;[[Category:Pages using the "citation needed" template]]</sup> 07:58, 8 June 2023 (UTC)

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 I think that it's dark inside because of an illusion. Maybe it's just dim inside, which the camera cannot see.
 : That sounds plausible, as does the thing with the air lock that allows you to enter the cage during an experiment, at least if the faraday cage isn't intended to span to the 10^14 hertz range; Bringing light into a dark faraday cage actually isn't a trivial task as any cable that conducts current for the lighting also conducts radio waves, many optical fibres have a surprisingly low upper limit on how much light they can carry and getting all the light from one light bulb into one fibre isn't trivial, by itself.[[User:Gunterkoenigsmann|Gunterkoenigsmann]] ([[User talk:Gunterkoenigsmann|talk]]) 02:02, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
-:: Solution: Put the thing generating the power inside the faraday cage [[Special:Contributions/172.69.58.20|172.69.58.20]] 00:11, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
+:: Solution: Put the thing generating the power inside the faraday cage [[User:Certified nqh|Certified nqh]] ([[User talk:Certified nqh|talk]]) 00:13, 7 June 2023 (UTC)

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	I think that it's dark inside because of an illusion. Maybe it's just dim inside, which the camera cannot see.		I think that it's dark inside because of an illusion. Maybe it's just dim inside, which the camera cannot see.
	: That sounds plausible, as does the thing with the air lock that allows you to enter the cage during an experiment, at least if the faraday cage isn't intended to span to the 10^14 hertz range; Bringing light into a dark faraday cage actually isn't a trivial task as any cable that conducts current for the lighting also conducts radio waves, many optical fibres have a surprisingly low upper limit on how much light they can carry and getting all the light from one light bulb into one fibre isn't trivial, by itself.[[User:Gunterkoenigsmann\|Gunterkoenigsmann]] ([[User talk:Gunterkoenigsmann\|talk]]) 02:02, 4 December 2021 (UTC)		: That sounds plausible, as does the thing with the air lock that allows you to enter the cage during an experiment, at least if the faraday cage isn't intended to span to the 10^14 hertz range; Bringing light into a dark faraday cage actually isn't a trivial task as any cable that conducts current for the lighting also conducts radio waves, many optical fibres have a surprisingly low upper limit on how much light they can carry and getting all the light from one light bulb into one fibre isn't trivial, by itself.[[User:Gunterkoenigsmann\|Gunterkoenigsmann]] ([[User talk:Gunterkoenigsmann\|talk]]) 02:02, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
		+	:: Solution: Put the thing generating the power inside the faraday cage [[Special:Contributions/172.69.58.20\|172.69.58.20]] 00:11, 7 June 2023 (UTC)

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	I think that it's dark inside because of an illusion. Maybe it's just dim inside, which the camera cannot see.		I think that it's dark inside because of an illusion. Maybe it's just dim inside, which the camera cannot see.
		+	: That sounds plausible, as does the thing with the air lock that allows you to enter the cage during an experiment, at least if the faraday cage isn't intended to span to the 10^14 hertz range; Bringing light into a dark faraday cage actually isn't a trivial task as any cable that conducts current for the lighting also conducts radio waves, many optical fibres have a surprisingly low upper limit on how much light they can carry and getting all the light from one light bulb into one fibre isn't trivial, by itself.[[User:Gunterkoenigsmann\|Gunterkoenigsmann]] ([[User talk:Gunterkoenigsmann\|talk]]) 02:02, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

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	This has happened to me and every electronics engineer doing [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_compatibility EMC certification], calling a colleague to discuss the measurements. "Wait, let me go into the chamber and see whether the cable is conn..." [[User:Mumiemonstret\|Mumiemonstret]] ([[User talk:Mumiemonstret\|talk]]) 13:21, 12 August 2020 (UTC)		This has happened to me and every electronics engineer doing [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_compatibility EMC certification], calling a colleague to discuss the measurements. "Wait, let me go into the chamber and see whether the cable is conn..." [[User:Mumiemonstret\|Mumiemonstret]] ([[User talk:Mumiemonstret\|talk]]) 13:21, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
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	I thought the hover text was referring to the 5G conspiracy. Given that 5G can't get inside a Faraday Cage, neither can the "conspiracy" of COVID? [[User:Drkaii\|Drkaii]] ([[User talk:Drkaii\|talk]])		I thought the hover text was referring to the 5G conspiracy. Given that 5G can't get inside a Faraday Cage, neither can the "conspiracy" of COVID? [[User:Drkaii\|Drkaii]] ([[User talk:Drkaii\|talk]])
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		+	This has happened to me and every electronics engineer doing [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_compatibility EMC certification], calling a colleague to discuss the measurements. "Wait, let me go into the chamber and see whether the cable is conn..." [[User:Mumiemonstret\|Mumiemonstret]] ([[User talk:Mumiemonstret\|talk]]) 13:21, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

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 The picture of the cage isn't very accurate in this one. The conductor spacing for a Faraday cage should be ~1/10 wavelength or better. So for cellular connection in the US that's ~5cm down to ~1cm. If you want to include 5GHz wifi then you'd have to go smaller than 6mm. [[User:Jonfitt|Jonfitt]] ([[User talk:Jonfitt|talk]]) 15:48, 29 July 2020 (UTC) jonfitt
 :How do you know that's the actual cage and not just a pattern on the exterior wall? [[Special:Contributions/141.101.69.185|141.101.69.185]] 15:05, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
 I thought the hover text was referring to the 5G conspiracy. Given that 5G can't get inside a Faraday Cage, neither can the "conspiracy" of COVID? [[User:Drkaii|Drkaii]] ([[User talk:Drkaii|talk]])

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	The picture of the cage isn't very accurate in this one. The conductor spacing for a Faraday cage should be ~1/10 wavelength or better. So for cellular connection in the US that's ~5cm down to ~1cm. If you want to include 5GHz wifi then you'd have to go smaller than 6mm. [[User:Jonfitt\|Jonfitt]] ([[User talk:Jonfitt\|talk]]) 15:48, 29 July 2020 (UTC) jonfitt		The picture of the cage isn't very accurate in this one. The conductor spacing for a Faraday cage should be ~1/10 wavelength or better. So for cellular connection in the US that's ~5cm down to ~1cm. If you want to include 5GHz wifi then you'd have to go smaller than 6mm. [[User:Jonfitt\|Jonfitt]] ([[User talk:Jonfitt\|talk]]) 15:48, 29 July 2020 (UTC) jonfitt
		+	:How do you know that's the actual cage and not just a pattern on the exterior wall? [[Special:Contributions/141.101.69.185\|141.101.69.185]] 15:05, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

	I thought the hover text was referring to the 5G conspiracy. Given that 5G can't get inside a Faraday Cage, neither can the "conspiracy" of COVID? [[User:Drkaii\|Drkaii]] ([[User talk:Drkaii\|talk]])		I thought the hover text was referring to the 5G conspiracy. Given that 5G can't get inside a Faraday Cage, neither can the "conspiracy" of COVID? [[User:Drkaii\|Drkaii]] ([[User talk:Drkaii\|talk]])

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 I feel like the explanation might be reading too much into (in my opinion) weak possible symbolic interpretations that Randall may or may not have intended. (e.g. "The darkness could be taken as a metaphor for depending so heavily on electronic connectivity for one's view of the world that anything not directly connected is conceived as unobservable" and "continuing the theme of treating connectivity as the only way to acquire information. They would still be able to receive news if they ever step outside to welcome visitors, or have print media delivered, but their choice to unconventionally isolate themselves might reflect their general attitudes to the world outside and it is also implied that Hairy is one of the rare few outsiders they have pre-agreed to allow to visit")--[[Special:Contributions/162.158.74.19|162.158.74.19]] 16:07, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
 :I think the joke is exactly about being out of touch with outside events. It happened to me. I spent September 11, 2001 doing EMC testing inside a Faraday cage. When I returned to my desk someone asked "So what's your take on the Twin Towers?" I had no idea what he was on about.[[Special:Contributions/162.158.234.30|162.158.234.30]] 08:19, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
-::I agree with the notion that the inhabitants of the cage would definitely be out of touch with reality, but I think it is a bit far to say that Randall is trying to express complex metaphors such as comparing the darkness of the cave to being disconnected from the outside world.--[[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.122|108.162.216.122]] 22:11, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
+::I agree with the notion that the inhabitants of the cage would definitely be out of touch with reality, but I think it is a bit far to say that Randall is trying to express complex metaphors such as comparing the darkness of the cave to being disconnected from the outside world. (BTW I am the same person; I should probably create an account)--[[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.122|108.162.216.122]] 22:11, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
 The picture of the cage isn't very accurate in this one. The conductor spacing for a Faraday cage should be ~1/10 wavelength or better. So for cellular connection in the US that's ~5cm down to ~1cm. If you want to include 5GHz wifi then you'd have to go smaller than 6mm. [[User:Jonfitt|Jonfitt]] ([[User talk:Jonfitt|talk]]) 15:48, 29 July 2020 (UTC) jonfitt
 I thought the hover text was referring to the 5G conspiracy. Given that 5G can't get inside a Faraday Cage, neither can the "conspiracy" of COVID? [[User:Drkaii|Drkaii]] ([[User talk:Drkaii|talk]])