Talk:2341: Scientist Tech Help - Revision history

172.69.34.18: i added date to signature and was maybe annoying trying to make a joke in the date signature

2020-08-17T23:03:09Z

i added date to signature and was maybe annoying trying to make a joke in the date signature

172.69.34.18: very sorry i don't know how to do this. just adding that there are legit reasons a scientist would need to use a photo to digitize results from an experiment.

2020-08-17T23:00:16Z

very sorry i don't know how to do this. just adding that there are legit reasons a scientist would need to use a photo to digitize results from an experiment.

172.69.63.61 at 19:08, 9 August 2020

2020-08-09T19:08:08Z

172.69.63.61 at 19:07, 9 August 2020

2020-08-09T19:07:21Z

172.69.69.26 at 00:57, 9 August 2020

2020-08-09T00:57:36Z

162.158.74.155: New viewpoint on the title text

2020-08-04T18:10:42Z

New viewpoint on the title text

Nk1406: signature

2020-08-04T13:51:16Z

signature

Nk1406 at 13:51, 4 August 2020

2020-08-04T13:51:00Z

Cellocgw at 10:42, 4 August 2020

2020-08-04T10:42:43Z

162.158.154.131 at 10:17, 4 August 2020

2020-08-04T10:17:16Z

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	Very shortly after this comic published I started seeing several articles about how geneticists recently renamed several genes so they would stop auto-formatting as dates in Excel. I wonder if Randall knew this before he drew the comic, and it was commentary on that, or if by amazing coincidence the world spewed out the perfect example of the scenario he was pointing out after the fact. For example, [https://www.engadget.com/scientists-rename-genes-due-to-excel-151748790.html this Engadget article]. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.63.61\|172.69.63.61]] 19:07, 9 August 2020 (UTC)		Very shortly after this comic published I started seeing several articles about how geneticists recently renamed several genes so they would stop auto-formatting as dates in Excel. I wonder if Randall knew this before he drew the comic, and it was commentary on that, or if by amazing coincidence the world spewed out the perfect example of the scenario he was pointing out after the fact. For example, [https://www.engadget.com/scientists-rename-genes-due-to-excel-151748790.html this Engadget article]. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.63.61\|172.69.63.61]] 19:07, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

−	I have worked in many labs where an exposure is taken, or a photo even, or instruments are analog readouts that must be digitized. I have only used imageJ for this. I realize it says "graphs" but there are examples of physical graphs- an old school temp tracer for instance. Or are those all charts? I'm not so pedantic these days, just a dumb labrat. anyway sorry, i don't know how to add comments here sorry for probably screwing something up (unregistered user)[[Special:Contributions/172.69.34.18\|172.69.34.18]]	+	I have worked in many labs where an exposure is taken, or a photo even, or instruments are analog readouts that must be digitized. I have only used imageJ for this. I realize it says "graphs" (and also that the photos I took were with a digital camera, not poloroid) but there are examples of physical graphs- an old school temp tracer for instance. Or are those all charts? I'm not so pedantic these days, just a dumb labrat. anyway sorry, i don't know how to add comments here sorry for probably screwing something up (unregistered user- hi i'm Gian!)[[Special:Contributions/172.69.34.18\|172.69.34.18]] 16:00 hundred hours, 17 August 2020 (I'm using local US west coast time, lol)

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	Very shortly after this comic published I started seeing several articles about how geneticists recently renamed several genes so they would stop auto-formatting as dates in Excel. I wonder if Randall knew this before he drew the comic, and it was commentary on that, or if by amazing coincidence the world spewed out the perfect example of the scenario he was pointing out after the fact. For example, [https://www.engadget.com/scientists-rename-genes-due-to-excel-151748790.html this Engadget article]. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.63.61\|172.69.63.61]] 19:07, 9 August 2020 (UTC)		Very shortly after this comic published I started seeing several articles about how geneticists recently renamed several genes so they would stop auto-formatting as dates in Excel. I wonder if Randall knew this before he drew the comic, and it was commentary on that, or if by amazing coincidence the world spewed out the perfect example of the scenario he was pointing out after the fact. For example, [https://www.engadget.com/scientists-rename-genes-due-to-excel-151748790.html this Engadget article]. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.63.61\|172.69.63.61]] 19:07, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
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		+	I have worked in many labs where an exposure is taken, or a photo even, or instruments are analog readouts that must be digitized. I have only used imageJ for this. I realize it says "graphs" but there are examples of physical graphs- an old school temp tracer for instance. Or are those all charts? I'm not so pedantic these days, just a dumb labrat. anyway sorry, i don't know how to add comments here sorry for probably screwing something up (unregistered user)[[Special:Contributions/172.69.34.18\|172.69.34.18]]

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	I thought that the title text meant that webplotdigitizer is being recommended in this sintuation, and that past recommendations for similar problems were ignored. They irrationally hold out hope that the software will be used and remembered by the scientists. Operating the software is also not the interesting challenge the tech people were hoping to be presented to them. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.74.155\|162.158.74.155]] 18:10, 4 August 2020 (UTC)		I thought that the title text meant that webplotdigitizer is being recommended in this sintuation, and that past recommendations for similar problems were ignored. They irrationally hold out hope that the software will be used and remembered by the scientists. Operating the software is also not the interesting challenge the tech people were hoping to be presented to them. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.74.155\|162.158.74.155]] 18:10, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

−	Very shortly after this comic published I started seeing several articles about how geneticists recently renamed several genes so they would stop auto-formatting as dates in Excel. I wonder if Randall knew this before he drew the comic, and it was commentary on that, or if by amazing coincidence the world spewed out the perfect example of the scenario he was pointing out ~~afterwards~~. For example, [https://www.engadget.com/scientists-rename-genes-due-to-excel-151748790.html this Engadget article]. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.63.61\|172.69.63.61]] 19:07, 9 August 2020 (UTC)	+	Very shortly after this comic published I started seeing several articles about how geneticists recently renamed several genes so they would stop auto-formatting as dates in Excel. I wonder if Randall knew this before he drew the comic, and it was commentary on that, or if by amazing coincidence the world spewed out the perfect example of the scenario he was pointing out after the fact. For example, [https://www.engadget.com/scientists-rename-genes-due-to-excel-151748790.html this Engadget article]. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.63.61\|172.69.63.61]] 19:07, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

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	I thought that the title text meant that webplotdigitizer is being recommended in this sintuation, and that past recommendations for similar problems were ignored. They irrationally hold out hope that the software will be used and remembered by the scientists. Operating the software is also not the interesting challenge the tech people were hoping to be presented to them. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.74.155\|162.158.74.155]] 18:10, 4 August 2020 (UTC)		I thought that the title text meant that webplotdigitizer is being recommended in this sintuation, and that past recommendations for similar problems were ignored. They irrationally hold out hope that the software will be used and remembered by the scientists. Operating the software is also not the interesting challenge the tech people were hoping to be presented to them. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.74.155\|162.158.74.155]] 18:10, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

−	Very shortly after this comic published I started seeing several articles about how geneticists recently renamed several genes so they would stop auto-formatting as dates in Excel. I wonder if Randall knew this before he drew the comic, and it was commentary on that, or if by amazing coincidence the world spewed out the perfect example of the scenario he was pointing out afterwards. For example, [https://www.engadget.com/scientists-rename-genes-due-to-excel-151748790.html this Engadget article].	+	Very shortly after this comic published I started seeing several articles about how geneticists recently renamed several genes so they would stop auto-formatting as dates in Excel. I wonder if Randall knew this before he drew the comic, and it was commentary on that, or if by amazing coincidence the world spewed out the perfect example of the scenario he was pointing out afterwards. For example, [https://www.engadget.com/scientists-rename-genes-due-to-excel-151748790.html this Engadget article]. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.63.61\|172.69.63.61]] 19:07, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

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	I thought that the title text meant that webplotdigitizer is being recommended in this sintuation, and that past recommendations for similar problems were ignored. They irrationally hold out hope that the software will be used and remembered by the scientists. Operating the software is also not the interesting challenge the tech people were hoping to be presented to them. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.74.155\|162.158.74.155]] 18:10, 4 August 2020 (UTC)		I thought that the title text meant that webplotdigitizer is being recommended in this sintuation, and that past recommendations for similar problems were ignored. They irrationally hold out hope that the software will be used and remembered by the scientists. Operating the software is also not the interesting challenge the tech people were hoping to be presented to them. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.74.155\|162.158.74.155]] 18:10, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
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		+	Very shortly after this comic published I started seeing several articles about how geneticists recently renamed several genes so they would stop auto-formatting as dates in Excel. I wonder if Randall knew this before he drew the comic, and it was commentary on that, or if by amazing coincidence the world spewed out the perfect example of the scenario he was pointing out afterwards. For example, [https://www.engadget.com/scientists-rename-genes-due-to-excel-151748790.html this Engadget article].

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	A serious suggestion: instead of webplotdigitizer, if you want to grab data off a chart image, get the java-based DataThief, https://datathief.org/ . It's fast, very customizable, can handle a certain amount of image distortion, i.e. X and Y axes not perpendicular in the crappy image your uncle sent you. [[User:Cellocgw\|Cellocgw]] ([[User talk:Cellocgw\|talk]]) 10:42, 4 August 2020 (UTC)		A serious suggestion: instead of webplotdigitizer, if you want to grab data off a chart image, get the java-based DataThief, https://datathief.org/ . It's fast, very customizable, can handle a certain amount of image distortion, i.e. X and Y axes not perpendicular in the crappy image your uncle sent you. [[User:Cellocgw\|Cellocgw]] ([[User talk:Cellocgw\|talk]]) 10:42, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
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		+	I thought that the title text meant that webplotdigitizer is being recommended in this sintuation, and that past recommendations for similar problems were ignored. They irrationally hold out hope that the software will be used and remembered by the scientists. Operating the software is also not the interesting challenge the tech people were hoping to be presented to them. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.74.155\|162.158.74.155]] 18:10, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

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 I think the resentment stems from the ugly truth that such tool is needed in the first place? Is that a possibility? [[Special:Contributions/172.69.134.229|172.69.134.229]] 01:48, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
-:Don't the scientists own the data since they collected it on their own equipment?
+:Don't the scientists own the data since they collected it on their own equipment?[[User:Nk1406|Nk1406]] ([[User talk:Nk1406|talk]]) 13:51, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
 "As you can see from the graphs, we detected significant Gravity Wave events on average once every 30-40 days for the whole two years of the observations, except for ''this'' short period where we seemed to get a consistently low level of background noise hum, that we have yet to fully connect with any of our existing astrophysical theories..." [[Special:Contributions/162.158.154.131|162.158.154.131]] 10:17, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

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	I think the resentment stems from the ugly truth that such tool is needed in the first place? Is that a possibility? [[Special:Contributions/172.69.134.229\|172.69.134.229]] 01:48, 4 August 2020 (UTC)		I think the resentment stems from the ugly truth that such tool is needed in the first place? Is that a possibility? [[Special:Contributions/172.69.134.229\|172.69.134.229]] 01:48, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
		+	:Don't the scientists own the data since they collected it on their own equipment?

	"As you can see from the graphs, we detected significant Gravity Wave events on average once every 30-40 days for the whole two years of the observations, except for ''this'' short period where we seemed to get a consistently low level of background noise hum, that we have yet to fully connect with any of our existing astrophysical theories..." [[Special:Contributions/162.158.154.131\|162.158.154.131]] 10:17, 4 August 2020 (UTC)		"As you can see from the graphs, we detected significant Gravity Wave events on average once every 30-40 days for the whole two years of the observations, except for ''this'' short period where we seemed to get a consistently low level of background noise hum, that we have yet to fully connect with any of our existing astrophysical theories..." [[Special:Contributions/162.158.154.131\|162.158.154.131]] 10:17, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

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	"As you can see from the graphs, we detected significant Gravity Wave events on average once every 30-40 days for the whole two years of the observations, except for ''this'' short period where we seemed to get a consistently low level of background noise hum, that we have yet to fully connect with any of our existing astrophysical theories..." [[Special:Contributions/162.158.154.131\|162.158.154.131]] 10:17, 4 August 2020 (UTC)		"As you can see from the graphs, we detected significant Gravity Wave events on average once every 30-40 days for the whole two years of the observations, except for ''this'' short period where we seemed to get a consistently low level of background noise hum, that we have yet to fully connect with any of our existing astrophysical theories..." [[Special:Contributions/162.158.154.131\|162.158.154.131]] 10:17, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
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		+	A serious suggestion: instead of webplotdigitizer, if you want to grab data off a chart image, get the java-based DataThief, https://datathief.org/ . It's fast, very customizable, can handle a certain amount of image distortion, i.e. X and Y axes not perpendicular in the crappy image your uncle sent you. [[User:Cellocgw\|Cellocgw]] ([[User talk:Cellocgw\|talk]]) 10:42, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

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	I think the resentment stems from the ugly truth that such tool is needed in the first place? Is that a possibility? [[Special:Contributions/172.69.134.229\|172.69.134.229]] 01:48, 4 August 2020 (UTC)		I think the resentment stems from the ugly truth that such tool is needed in the first place? Is that a possibility? [[Special:Contributions/172.69.134.229\|172.69.134.229]] 01:48, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
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		+	"As you can see from the graphs, we detected significant Gravity Wave events on average once every 30-40 days for the whole two years of the observations, except for ''this'' short period where we seemed to get a consistently low level of background noise hum, that we have yet to fully connect with any of our existing astrophysical theories..." [[Special:Contributions/162.158.154.131\|162.158.154.131]] 10:17, 4 August 2020 (UTC)