Talk:2353: Hurricane Hunters - Revision history

While False at 18:36, 31 October 2022

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While False at 18:16, 31 October 2022

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172.68.24.250 at 03:26, 14 September 2020

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NotaBene at 20:44, 3 September 2020

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JohnHawkinson: r re st. louis

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r re st. louis

NotaBene at 19:14, 3 September 2020

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JohnHawkinson: NotaBene's statement that a flight to St. Louis was "presumably…far out of its way" is unsupported and needs to go. How best to do it?

2020-09-03T05:47:41Z

NotaBene's statement that a flight to St. Louis was "presumably…far out of its way" is unsupported and needs to go. How best to do it?

162.158.63.62 at 00:38, 3 September 2020

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108.162.229.142 at 10:37, 1 September 2020

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Bubblegum at 06:05, 1 September 2020

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	For people who would like to read what that job is on a bad day: https://tailspinstales.blogspot.com/2011/05/hunting-hugo.html lG Tier666 (who has lost his password...)[[Special:Contributions/108.162.229.142\|108.162.229.142]] 10:37, 1 September 2020 (UTC)		For people who would like to read what that job is on a bad day: https://tailspinstales.blogspot.com/2011/05/hunting-hugo.html lG Tier666 (who has lost his password...)[[Special:Contributions/108.162.229.142\|108.162.229.142]] 10:37, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
		+	:Sorry to hear about the [https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/User_talk:LG_Tier666 password]. —[[User:While False\|While False]] ([[User:While False/explain xkcd museum\|'''museum''']] \| [[User talk:While False\|talk]] \| [[special:Contributions/While_False\|contributions]] \| [[special:Log/While_False\|logs]] \| [[Special:UserRights/While_False\|rights]]) 18:36, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

	In [https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=2353:_Hurricane_Hunters&oldid=196638 this rev], NotaBene writes that "''the passengers wanted to go to St. Louis, Missouri, which is only very rarely struck by hurricanes …, so presumably the jet was taken quite far out of its way''". This presumes facts not in evidence — we have no idea where the flight originated from, and there are plenty of flights to St. Louis from places such as Houston, TX and New Orleans, LA that travel fairly near to the track of Hurricane Laura. I'm not really sure the best way to save this portion of the explanation without gutting it entirely, hence this post here. [[User:JohnHawkinson\|JohnHawkinson]] ([[User talk:JohnHawkinson\|talk]]) 05:47, 3 September 2020 (UTC)		In [https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=2353:_Hurricane_Hunters&oldid=196638 this rev], NotaBene writes that "''the passengers wanted to go to St. Louis, Missouri, which is only very rarely struck by hurricanes …, so presumably the jet was taken quite far out of its way''". This presumes facts not in evidence — we have no idea where the flight originated from, and there are plenty of flights to St. Louis from places such as Houston, TX and New Orleans, LA that travel fairly near to the track of Hurricane Laura. I'm not really sure the best way to save this portion of the explanation without gutting it entirely, hence this post here. [[User:JohnHawkinson\|JohnHawkinson]] ([[User talk:JohnHawkinson\|talk]]) 05:47, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

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	[[Special:Contributions/172.68.24.250\|172.68.24.250]] 03:26, 14 September 2020 (UTC) isnt this a reference to Interstellar, where Professor Brand says they needed crucial data to calculate how to save Earth collected from within a black hole albeit entering it is dangerous?		[[Special:Contributions/172.68.24.250\|172.68.24.250]] 03:26, 14 September 2020 (UTC) isnt this a reference to Interstellar, where Professor Brand says they needed crucial data to calculate how to save Earth collected from within a black hole albeit entering it is dangerous?
		+	:I think that’s far-fetched as there are many places that are dangerous but scientifically rewarding to go. Like the Moon, or the sea, or forests. —[[User:While False\|While False]] ([[User:While False/explain xkcd museum\|'''museum''']] \| [[User talk:While False\|talk]] \| [[special:Contributions/While_False\|contributions]] \| [[special:Log/While_False\|logs]] \| [[Special:UserRights/While_False\|rights]]) 18:16, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

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	:: Yes, I debated whether to quote the current text or the original. The current is equally problematic: "''but the passengers wanted to go to St. Louis, Missouri, which is only very rarely struck by hurricanes …, so they were certainly not expecting to "participate" in a hurricane hunting mission.''" If the location is relevant at all, then the frequency of St. Louis's hurricane vulnerability is still only half the picture and fails to support a conclusion about the passengers' expectations. I would probably take out more of the text than you would, so I suggest you do it, but I guess I can if you don't want to. [[User:JohnHawkinson\|JohnHawkinson]] ([[User talk:JohnHawkinson\|talk]]) 19:54, 3 September 2020 (UTC)		:: Yes, I debated whether to quote the current text or the original. The current is equally problematic: "''but the passengers wanted to go to St. Louis, Missouri, which is only very rarely struck by hurricanes …, so they were certainly not expecting to "participate" in a hurricane hunting mission.''" If the location is relevant at all, then the frequency of St. Louis's hurricane vulnerability is still only half the picture and fails to support a conclusion about the passengers' expectations. I would probably take out more of the text than you would, so I suggest you do it, but I guess I can if you don't want to. [[User:JohnHawkinson\|JohnHawkinson]] ([[User talk:JohnHawkinson\|talk]]) 19:54, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
	::: You are correct, I removed negative text. :) --[[User:NotaBene\|NotaBene]] ([[User talk:NotaBene\|talk]]) 20:44, 3 September 2020 (UTC)		::: You are correct, I removed negative text. :) --[[User:NotaBene\|NotaBene]] ([[User talk:NotaBene\|talk]]) 20:44, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
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		+	[[Special:Contributions/172.68.24.250\|172.68.24.250]] 03:26, 14 September 2020 (UTC) isnt this a reference to Interstellar, where Professor Brand says they needed crucial data to calculate how to save Earth collected from within a black hole albeit entering it is dangerous?

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	: Some time ago, I adjusted the rest of the sentence to no longer read "taken far out of its way", but instead refer to the more solidly-built fact that they weren't expecting to fly into a hurricane because, wherever they came from, they were flying to the middle of the country. --[[User:NotaBene\|NotaBene]] ([[User talk:NotaBene\|talk]]) 19:14, 3 September 2020 (UTC)		: Some time ago, I adjusted the rest of the sentence to no longer read "taken far out of its way", but instead refer to the more solidly-built fact that they weren't expecting to fly into a hurricane because, wherever they came from, they were flying to the middle of the country. --[[User:NotaBene\|NotaBene]] ([[User talk:NotaBene\|talk]]) 19:14, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
	:: Yes, I debated whether to quote the current text or the original. The current is equally problematic: "''but the passengers wanted to go to St. Louis, Missouri, which is only very rarely struck by hurricanes …, so they were certainly not expecting to "participate" in a hurricane hunting mission.''" If the location is relevant at all, then the frequency of St. Louis's hurricane vulnerability is still only half the picture and fails to support a conclusion about the passengers' expectations. I would probably take out more of the text than you would, so I suggest you do it, but I guess I can if you don't want to. [[User:JohnHawkinson\|JohnHawkinson]] ([[User talk:JohnHawkinson\|talk]]) 19:54, 3 September 2020 (UTC)		:: Yes, I debated whether to quote the current text or the original. The current is equally problematic: "''but the passengers wanted to go to St. Louis, Missouri, which is only very rarely struck by hurricanes …, so they were certainly not expecting to "participate" in a hurricane hunting mission.''" If the location is relevant at all, then the frequency of St. Louis's hurricane vulnerability is still only half the picture and fails to support a conclusion about the passengers' expectations. I would probably take out more of the text than you would, so I suggest you do it, but I guess I can if you don't want to. [[User:JohnHawkinson\|JohnHawkinson]] ([[User talk:JohnHawkinson\|talk]]) 19:54, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
		+	::: You are correct, I removed negative text. :) --[[User:NotaBene\|NotaBene]] ([[User talk:NotaBene\|talk]]) 20:44, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

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	In [https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=2353:_Hurricane_Hunters&oldid=196638 this rev], NotaBene writes that "''the passengers wanted to go to St. Louis, Missouri, which is only very rarely struck by hurricanes …, so presumably the jet was taken quite far out of its way''". This presumes facts not in evidence — we have no idea where the flight originated from, and there are plenty of flights to St. Louis from places such as Houston, TX and New Orleans, LA that travel fairly near to the track of Hurricane Laura. I'm not really sure the best way to save this portion of the explanation without gutting it entirely, hence this post here. [[User:JohnHawkinson\|JohnHawkinson]] ([[User talk:JohnHawkinson\|talk]]) 05:47, 3 September 2020 (UTC)		In [https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=2353:_Hurricane_Hunters&oldid=196638 this rev], NotaBene writes that "''the passengers wanted to go to St. Louis, Missouri, which is only very rarely struck by hurricanes …, so presumably the jet was taken quite far out of its way''". This presumes facts not in evidence — we have no idea where the flight originated from, and there are plenty of flights to St. Louis from places such as Houston, TX and New Orleans, LA that travel fairly near to the track of Hurricane Laura. I'm not really sure the best way to save this portion of the explanation without gutting it entirely, hence this post here. [[User:JohnHawkinson\|JohnHawkinson]] ([[User talk:JohnHawkinson\|talk]]) 05:47, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
	: Some time ago, I adjusted the rest of the sentence to no longer read "taken far out of its way", but instead refer to the more solidly-built fact that they weren't expecting to fly into a hurricane because, wherever they came from, they were flying to the middle of the country. --[[User:NotaBene\|NotaBene]] ([[User talk:NotaBene\|talk]]) 19:14, 3 September 2020 (UTC)		: Some time ago, I adjusted the rest of the sentence to no longer read "taken far out of its way", but instead refer to the more solidly-built fact that they weren't expecting to fly into a hurricane because, wherever they came from, they were flying to the middle of the country. --[[User:NotaBene\|NotaBene]] ([[User talk:NotaBene\|talk]]) 19:14, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
		+	:: Yes, I debated whether to quote the current text or the original. The current is equally problematic: "''but the passengers wanted to go to St. Louis, Missouri, which is only very rarely struck by hurricanes …, so they were certainly not expecting to "participate" in a hurricane hunting mission.''" If the location is relevant at all, then the frequency of St. Louis's hurricane vulnerability is still only half the picture and fails to support a conclusion about the passengers' expectations. I would probably take out more of the text than you would, so I suggest you do it, but I guess I can if you don't want to. [[User:JohnHawkinson\|JohnHawkinson]] ([[User talk:JohnHawkinson\|talk]]) 19:54, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

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	In [https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=2353:_Hurricane_Hunters&oldid=196638 this rev], NotaBene writes that "''the passengers wanted to go to St. Louis, Missouri, which is only very rarely struck by hurricanes …, so presumably the jet was taken quite far out of its way''". This presumes facts not in evidence — we have no idea where the flight originated from, and there are plenty of flights to St. Louis from places such as Houston, TX and New Orleans, LA that travel fairly near to the track of Hurricane Laura. I'm not really sure the best way to save this portion of the explanation without gutting it entirely, hence this post here. [[User:JohnHawkinson\|JohnHawkinson]] ([[User talk:JohnHawkinson\|talk]]) 05:47, 3 September 2020 (UTC)		In [https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=2353:_Hurricane_Hunters&oldid=196638 this rev], NotaBene writes that "''the passengers wanted to go to St. Louis, Missouri, which is only very rarely struck by hurricanes …, so presumably the jet was taken quite far out of its way''". This presumes facts not in evidence — we have no idea where the flight originated from, and there are plenty of flights to St. Louis from places such as Houston, TX and New Orleans, LA that travel fairly near to the track of Hurricane Laura. I'm not really sure the best way to save this portion of the explanation without gutting it entirely, hence this post here. [[User:JohnHawkinson\|JohnHawkinson]] ([[User talk:JohnHawkinson\|talk]]) 05:47, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
		+	: Some time ago, I adjusted the rest of the sentence to no longer read "taken far out of its way", but instead refer to the more solidly-built fact that they weren't expecting to fly into a hurricane because, wherever they came from, they were flying to the middle of the country. --[[User:NotaBene\|NotaBene]] ([[User talk:NotaBene\|talk]]) 19:14, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

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	For people who would like to read what that job is on a bad day: https://tailspinstales.blogspot.com/2011/05/hunting-hugo.html lG Tier666 (who has lost his password...)[[Special:Contributions/108.162.229.142\|108.162.229.142]] 10:37, 1 September 2020 (UTC)		For people who would like to read what that job is on a bad day: https://tailspinstales.blogspot.com/2011/05/hunting-hugo.html lG Tier666 (who has lost his password...)[[Special:Contributions/108.162.229.142\|108.162.229.142]] 10:37, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
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		+	In [https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=2353:_Hurricane_Hunters&oldid=196638 this rev], NotaBene writes that "''the passengers wanted to go to St. Louis, Missouri, which is only very rarely struck by hurricanes …, so presumably the jet was taken quite far out of its way''". This presumes facts not in evidence — we have no idea where the flight originated from, and there are plenty of flights to St. Louis from places such as Houston, TX and New Orleans, LA that travel fairly near to the track of Hurricane Laura. I'm not really sure the best way to save this portion of the explanation without gutting it entirely, hence this post here. [[User:JohnHawkinson\|JohnHawkinson]] ([[User talk:JohnHawkinson\|talk]]) 05:47, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

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	:This feels weirdly fun, actually. <span style="font-family:Palatino,serif">[[User:Bubblegum\|<span style="color:#00BFFF">bubblegum</span>]]-[[User_talk:Bubblegum\|<span style="color:#BF7FFF">talk</span>]]\|[[Special:Contributions/Bubblegum\|<span style="color:#FF7FFF">contribs</span>]]</span> <span style="font-family:Palatino">06:05, 1 September 2020 (UTC)</span>		:This feels weirdly fun, actually. <span style="font-family:Palatino,serif">[[User:Bubblegum\|<span style="color:#00BFFF">bubblegum</span>]]-[[User_talk:Bubblegum\|<span style="color:#BF7FFF">talk</span>]]\|[[Special:Contributions/Bubblegum\|<span style="color:#FF7FFF">contribs</span>]]</span> <span style="font-family:Palatino">06:05, 1 September 2020 (UTC)</span>
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		+	:I updated the line. Really I thought black hats didn't go to prison because they kept themselves anonymous, but instead I mentioned security firms and organized crime. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.63.62\|162.158.63.62]] 00:38, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

	For people who would like to read what that job is on a bad day: https://tailspinstales.blogspot.com/2011/05/hunting-hugo.html lG Tier666 (who has lost his password...)[[Special:Contributions/108.162.229.142\|108.162.229.142]] 10:37, 1 September 2020 (UTC)		For people who would like to read what that job is on a bad day: https://tailspinstales.blogspot.com/2011/05/hunting-hugo.html lG Tier666 (who has lost his password...)[[Special:Contributions/108.162.229.142\|108.162.229.142]] 10:37, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

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	:This feels weirdly fun, actually. <span style="font-family:Palatino,serif">[[User:Bubblegum\|<span style="color:#00BFFF">bubblegum</span>]]-[[User_talk:Bubblegum\|<span style="color:#BF7FFF">talk</span>]]\|[[Special:Contributions/Bubblegum\|<span style="color:#FF7FFF">contribs</span>]]</span> <span style="font-family:Palatino">06:05, 1 September 2020 (UTC)</span>		:This feels weirdly fun, actually. <span style="font-family:Palatino,serif">[[User:Bubblegum\|<span style="color:#00BFFF">bubblegum</span>]]-[[User_talk:Bubblegum\|<span style="color:#BF7FFF">talk</span>]]\|[[Special:Contributions/Bubblegum\|<span style="color:#FF7FFF">contribs</span>]]</span> <span style="font-family:Palatino">06:05, 1 September 2020 (UTC)</span>
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		+	For people who would like to read what that job is on a bad day: https://tailspinstales.blogspot.com/2011/05/hunting-hugo.html lG Tier666 (who has lost his password...)[[Special:Contributions/108.162.229.142\|108.162.229.142]] 10:37, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

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	I don't think that Black Hat as a jet pilot would go to prison in real world. I think he would DIE in his attempt and they rarely put dead people in prison, especially if the body wasn't found. -- [[User:Hkmaly\|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly\|talk]]) 03:53, 1 September 2020 (UTC)		I don't think that Black Hat as a jet pilot would go to prison in real world. I think he would DIE in his attempt and they rarely put dead people in prison, especially if the body wasn't found. -- [[User:Hkmaly\|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly\|talk]]) 03:53, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
		+	:Don't think he particularly cares. Beret Guy probably would survive, but he'd just hallucinate the bars away. Cueball would make the control panel flash some weird error before taking off.
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		+	:This feels weirdly fun, actually. <span style="font-family:Palatino,serif">[[User:Bubblegum\|<span style="color:#00BFFF">bubblegum</span>]]-[[User_talk:Bubblegum\|<span style="color:#BF7FFF">talk</span>]]\|[[Special:Contributions/Bubblegum\|<span style="color:#FF7FFF">contribs</span>]]</span> <span style="font-family:Palatino">06:05, 1 September 2020 (UTC)</span>