Talk:2373: Chemist Eggs - Revision history

PoolloverNathan at 16:34, 10 January 2023

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172.70.86.105: As it said just above... Add new comments to the end.

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As it said just above... Add new comments to the end.

Xurkitree10 at 11:17, 2 January 2023

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162.158.38.22 at 21:41, 27 October 2020

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162.158.78.198 at 02:03, 21 October 2020

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162.158.154.215 at 10:26, 20 October 2020

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Elektrizikekswerk at 12:32, 19 October 2020

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Hkmaly at 01:42, 18 October 2020

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172.68.129.134 at 19:51, 17 October 2020

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Kev at 16:15, 17 October 2020

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	I read that the principal components of flatus ("fart gas") are methyl mercaptan, dimethyl sulfide, and hydrogen sulfide, leading to [ahem] a complex cocktail of odors. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flatulence#Production,_composition,_and_smell		I read that the principal components of flatus ("fart gas") are methyl mercaptan, dimethyl sulfide, and hydrogen sulfide, leading to [ahem] a complex cocktail of odors. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flatulence#Production,_composition,_and_smell
		+	:The header got renamed, here is the updated link pinned to the current version: [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Flatulence&oldid=1132498940#Production,_composition,_and_odor Production, composition, and odor]

	There was a time, before refrigeration or stock rotation, when bad eggs were much more common. Hence the story of the Curate's egg [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curate%27s_egg], updated here [https://twitter.com/VictorianHumour/status/1014537505587302400]		There was a time, before refrigeration or stock rotation, when bad eggs were much more common. Hence the story of the Curate's egg [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curate%27s_egg], updated here [https://twitter.com/VictorianHumour/status/1014537505587302400]

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 Chemists get another solid pummeling from xkcd dot com. Also, double question marks, very Ryan North. [[User:Lightcaller|Lightcaller]] ([[User talk:Lightcaller|talk]]) 00:41, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
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 So then, what does sulfur smell like, if not rotten eggs? What's a better descriptor? [[Special:Contributions/162.158.78.198|162.158.78.198]] 02:03, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
 :Farts. Unlike rotten eggs, most students will have encountered these.  And, depending on their diet,  it may even be accurate. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.38.22|162.158.38.22]] 21:41, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

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		+	You don't need to encounter rotten eggs to figure out the smell, any stale egg dish will do. Like an omelette that's been sitting out for just too long.[[User:Xurkitree10\|Xurkitree10]] ([[User talk:Xurkitree10\|talk]]) 11:17, 2 January 2023 (UTC)

	Chemists get another solid pummeling from xkcd dot com. Also, double question marks, very Ryan North. [[User:Lightcaller\|Lightcaller]] ([[User talk:Lightcaller\|talk]]) 00:41, 17 October 2020 (UTC)		Chemists get another solid pummeling from xkcd dot com. Also, double question marks, very Ryan North. [[User:Lightcaller\|Lightcaller]] ([[User talk:Lightcaller\|talk]]) 00:41, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

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	So then, what does sulfur smell like, if not rotten eggs? What's a better descriptor? [[Special:Contributions/162.158.78.198\|162.158.78.198]] 02:03, 21 October 2020 (UTC)		So then, what does sulfur smell like, if not rotten eggs? What's a better descriptor? [[Special:Contributions/162.158.78.198\|162.158.78.198]] 02:03, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
		+	:Farts. Unlike rotten eggs, most students will have encountered these. And, depending on their diet, it may even be accurate. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.38.22\|162.158.38.22]] 21:41, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

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	Further anecdote, less related, was when nitration of toluene went a bit far. Instead of being creamy-yellow it was white (or vice-versa - I forget which), so it wasn't nitrotoluene any more. Apparently there was an area in the school fields where they buried (or at least saved for possible later analysis) such things as test-tubes of suspected trinitrotoluene, to which this was (gently!) whisked away. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.154.215\|162.158.154.215]] 10:26, 20 October 2020 (UTC)		Further anecdote, less related, was when nitration of toluene went a bit far. Instead of being creamy-yellow it was white (or vice-versa - I forget which), so it wasn't nitrotoluene any more. Apparently there was an area in the school fields where they buried (or at least saved for possible later analysis) such things as test-tubes of suspected trinitrotoluene, to which this was (gently!) whisked away. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.154.215\|162.158.154.215]] 10:26, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
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		+	So then, what does sulfur smell like, if not rotten eggs? What's a better descriptor? [[Special:Contributions/162.158.78.198\|162.158.78.198]] 02:03, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

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	I think that the section at the top seems to fit more in trivia rather than directly as a comic explanation because it doesn't really explain the comic [[Special:Contributions/108.162.212.29\|108.162.212.29]] 14:16, 17 October 2020 (UTC)Anonymous		I think that the section at the top seems to fit more in trivia rather than directly as a comic explanation because it doesn't really explain the comic [[Special:Contributions/108.162.212.29\|108.162.212.29]] 14:16, 17 October 2020 (UTC)Anonymous
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		+	Anecdote, and not hydrogen sulfide or (primarily) smell, but related: Scene - a chemistry class being taught by ill-prepared/scatty teacher. Instructions to the class being read out from a book from the front. Flasks on the tripods on desks, ready for the next bit, which was apparently something like "add 2cc of bromine"... Duly added by all the class. Turns page ..."water.". Too much! Boil off a little everybody! Boiling off creates carpet of brown fumes roiling across the floor. Question from a pupil - isn't bromine poisonous? Yes, yes! Deadly (sic) poison! Evacuate the class! - Which, because it was on the top floor and the brown mist was now out of the door and flowing down the stairs meant a far more thorough evacuation of the entire building...
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		+	Further anecdote, less related, was when nitration of toluene went a bit far. Instead of being creamy-yellow it was white (or vice-versa - I forget which), so it wasn't nitrotoluene any more. Apparently there was an area in the school fields where they buried (or at least saved for possible later analysis) such things as test-tubes of suspected trinitrotoluene, to which this was (gently!) whisked away. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.154.215\|162.158.154.215]] 10:26, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

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	Pretty sure the current version explanation is wildly overthinking this - sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, and sometimes a comic about how weird it is that we reference things smelling like rotten eggs when they’re uncommon is just that. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.34.28\|172.69.34.28]] 05:17, 17 October 2020 (UTC)		Pretty sure the current version explanation is wildly overthinking this - sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, and sometimes a comic about how weird it is that we reference things smelling like rotten eggs when they’re uncommon is just that. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.34.28\|172.69.34.28]] 05:17, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
		+	: That was my first impression, too... [[User:Elektrizikekswerk\|Elektrizikekswerk]] ([[User talk:Elektrizikekswerk\|talk]]) 12:32, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

	Actually, sulphides (H2S in particular) smell more like farts that rotten eggs. But science teachers know that if they use the word "fart" in front of a class, there will be no more work done in that lesson, and probably none by that class.		Actually, sulphides (H2S in particular) smell more like farts that rotten eggs. But science teachers know that if they use the word "fart" in front of a class, there will be no more work done in that lesson, and probably none by that class.

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	Rotten eggs were a common feature of the household that had free-range chickens and small children. The hens would lay their eggs in whatever spot pleased them, rather than just in the hen house. Children sent out to collect eggs would delight in finding eggs that had lain hidden for weeks and bring them in to the kitchen where Mother would carefully crack eggs separately, as mentioned in the explanation. [[User:Snezzy\|Snezzy]] ([[User talk:Snezzy\|talk]]) 11:42, 17 October 2020 (UTC)		Rotten eggs were a common feature of the household that had free-range chickens and small children. The hens would lay their eggs in whatever spot pleased them, rather than just in the hen house. Children sent out to collect eggs would delight in finding eggs that had lain hidden for weeks and bring them in to the kitchen where Mother would carefully crack eggs separately, as mentioned in the explanation. [[User:Snezzy\|Snezzy]] ([[User talk:Snezzy\|talk]]) 11:42, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
		+	:I think that everyone could find egg which was hidden longer than expected, not just small children. Also, the ratio of households with children didn't changed much, while the ratio of households with free-range chickens dropped massively. -- [[User:Hkmaly\|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly\|talk]]) 01:42, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

	I think that the section at the top seems to fit more in trivia rather than directly as a comic explanation because it doesn't really explain the comic [[Special:Contributions/108.162.212.29\|108.162.212.29]] 14:16, 17 October 2020 (UTC)Anonymous		I think that the section at the top seems to fit more in trivia rather than directly as a comic explanation because it doesn't really explain the comic [[Special:Contributions/108.162.212.29\|108.162.212.29]] 14:16, 17 October 2020 (UTC)Anonymous

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	The kids recognise the smell, of course. We used to call it "fartrogen dioxide". Paul Seed 07:43, 17 October 2020 (UTC)		The kids recognise the smell, of course. We used to call it "fartrogen dioxide". Paul Seed 07:43, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
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		+	I read that the principal components of flatus ("fart gas") are methyl mercaptan, dimethyl sulfide, and hydrogen sulfide, leading to [ahem] a complex cocktail of odors. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flatulence#Production,_composition,_and_smell

	There was a time, before refrigeration or stock rotation, when bad eggs were much more common. Hence the story of the Curate's egg [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curate%27s_egg], updated here [https://twitter.com/VictorianHumour/status/1014537505587302400]		There was a time, before refrigeration or stock rotation, when bad eggs were much more common. Hence the story of the Curate's egg [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curate%27s_egg], updated here [https://twitter.com/VictorianHumour/status/1014537505587302400]

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 Chemists get another solid pummeling from xkcd dot com. Also, double question marks, very Ryan North. [[User:Lightcaller|Lightcaller]] ([[User talk:Lightcaller|talk]]) 00:41, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
-: Well they are just [[1052: stamp collectors high on methylacetylate]]. [[User:Kev|Kev]] ([[User talk:Kev|talk]]) 16:15, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
+: Well they are just [[1052|Stamp collectors high on methylacetylate]]. [[User:Kev|Kev]] ([[User talk:Kev|talk]]) 16:15, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
 You could disguise the smell of your rotten eggs with [https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2012/05/15/things_i_wont_work_with_selenophenol selenophenol] and [https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2009/06/11/things_i_wont_work_with_thioacetone thioacetones]. Nobody will complain about your mere sulphides then... (ETA: I wonder about selenoacetones?)[[Special:Contributions/162.158.154.167|162.158.154.167]] 00:53, 17 October 2020 (UTC)