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Juanitamaxapril: Hacker For Exam Upgrade!!!

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Hacker For Exam Upgrade!!!

162.158.222.155 at 21:59, 28 January 2022

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172.68.132.155 at 00:24, 19 December 2020

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Hugoxrosa at 19:33, 1 December 2020

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141.101.98.124 at 15:38, 20 November 2020

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IByte: Rundfunk

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−	~~I recently tried~~ out a ~~School Grade Hacker and was impressed with what~~ it ~~offered~~. ~~This hacker was really easy~~ to ~~use~~ and was ~~able~~ to ~~quickly help me fix~~ all the ~~school grades that~~ I ~~needed~~. It was also ~~accurate and gave~~ me the ~~exact~~ grade ~~I wanted~~. ~~The best part about this School Grade Hacker~~ is ~~that it was almost free compared~~ to the ~~time~~ and ~~energy~~ I ~~had invested studying earlier~~ and ~~still couldn't~~ pass ~~those courses until~~ this ~~hacker helped me upgrade my exam score~~. So I ~~didn~~'t ~~have~~ to ~~worry about spending a lot~~ of ~~money~~ to ~~use it. Overall~~, ~~I would highly recommend this School Grade Hacker~~ to ~~anyone~~ who ~~needs~~ to ~~quickly~~ and ~~accurately upgrade~~ their ~~school grades and credit~~ score. ~~Write this hacker on~~ (~~Cybergenie@cyberservices~~.~~com~~) ~~WhatsApp~~ (+1) ~~252~~-~~512~~-~~0391~~) and ~~thank me later~~...~~!!!!~~	+	<!--Please sign your posts with ~~~~ and don't delete this text. New comments should be added at the bottom.-->
		+	Perhaps add a note about how multiple people trying to achieve the same goal would be impossible, so therefore it would be a test of game theory to see how the final grades end up. You'd want to be the last one to make all the changes. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.107.197\|162.158.107.197]] 23:51, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
		+	:It's a contest to hack the grades ''and'' to lock out all of the other students from making further changes. [[User:BunsenH\|BunsenH]] ([[User talk:BunsenH\|talk]]) 00:49, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
		+	Title text seems to be a reference to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guess_2/3_of_the_average.
		+	[[User:Anonymous3\|Anonymous3]] ([[User talk:Anonymous3\|talk]]) 01:10, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
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		+	The current "change every fifth answer to the bubble below it" explanation appears to make the implausible assumption that the exam is multiple-choice. [[User:BunsenH\|BunsenH]] ([[User talk:BunsenH\|talk]]) 03:19, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
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		+	Clearly the optimal solution for both courses is to change the grade to be ''out of 0'', thus a score of 0 being a perfect score and also meet the requirements for Game Theory. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.165.54\|162.158.165.54]] 03:28, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
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		+	:great idea! i was considering adding fake students to be statistical extremes but your solution allows all students to ace both courses. [[User:Ocæon\|ocæon]] ([[User talk:Ocæon\|talk]]) 14:46, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
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		+	:That's a great way to get a division by zero error somewhere. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.222.155\|162.158.222.155]] 21:59, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
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		+	OMG I want so much to take this class, what an excellent final exam![[Special:Contributions/172.68.65.208\|172.68.65.208]] 05:09, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
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		+	I think the explanation above is largely correct, but I assumed this was a Zoom reference. Since during lockdown the many students she is addressing should be experiencing this through a remote meeting, for which Zoom is often chosen (I'd love an explanation as to why THAT is). Zoom has notorious security flaws which any cybersecurity student should be failed for accepting.
		+	--[[Special:Contributions/162.158.159.96\|162.158.159.96]] 05:11, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
		+	:What if they run it in sandboxed virtual machine? -- [[User:Hkmaly\|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly\|talk]]) 20:45, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
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		+	No mention of Bobby Tables? [[User:Gvanrossum\|Gvanrossum]] ([[User talk:Gvanrossum\|talk]]) 06:29, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
		+	:That was a mom intentionally hacking multiple systems. Not just school, but also population census systems. This is limited to a single test. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.38\|141.101.98.38]] 21:08, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
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		+	the zero length exam reminds me of 'zero day' exploits, the students have zero time to respond to the exam requirements before the conclusion of the exam. [[User:Ocæon\|ocæon]] ([[User talk:Ocæon\|talk]]) 14:39, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
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		+	I feel like Randall missed a golden opportunity for Danish (instead of generic Ponytail) to prof these classes — this seems right up her alley. [[User:TPS\|TPS]] ([[User talk:TPS\|talk]]) 16:17, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
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		+	1) Hack my Cybersecurity grade, 2) Hack the professor's computer to remove the requiring link to the grade in the other course. -Diana
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		+	There is exactly one Nash Equilibria if you set the utility function to be the sum of the cyber security grade and the game theory grade. And it would be to give yourself a 100% in cyber security - Philip Geißler
		+
		+	This cartoon reminded me of a programming class I took as a Freshman at MIT (Spring 1974) where the first lecture described the way the programming projects were submitted and automatically graded. "Some of you may be considering finding a way to hack the grading program to just give you a good grade. This is an acceptable way to pass this course, since it is our analysis that subverting the grading program in this way demonstrates mastery of the subject matter." OK, I know this isn't a comment about the comic, but I lust felt like tossing it in. And more relevant (possibly) was the fact that being the last semester the course was taught, the final exam questions were all inside computer programming jokes. [[User:MAP\|MAP]] ([[User talk:MAP\|talk]]) 21:55, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
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		+	Given that the grade to be manipulated is only the grade of the final exam of Cybersecurity (and therefore not the grade for the entire class), but the grade that it affects is the grade for the entire Game Theory class, that there is no reason not to collaborate, and that how "closeness" is calculated is unclear, the ideal solution is to set the grade of every Cybersecurity student who is not also a Game Theory student to 100, and set the grade of every Cybersecurity student who is also a Game Theory student to 100(100-a)/(125-a), where a is the percentage of Cybersecurity students who are also Game Theory students. This ensures all Cybersecurity students who are also Game Theory students get a perfect 4.0 GPA in Game Theory while reducing their Cybersecurity score by the smallest possible amount. [[User:DL Draco Rex\|DL Draco Rex]] ([[User talk:DL Draco Rex\|talk]]) 17:12, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
		+	:There is a factor you haven't accounted for - hacking carries an implicit penalty in the form of effort expended; although I would like to think students will go to any amount of effort to get a good grade, I wonder whether that is realistic. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.124\|141.101.98.124]] 15:38, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
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		+	I just have to say this for fans of the Dutch comedy show ''Rundfunk'': "ALLEMAAL EEN ONVOLDOENDE!" (Any more Dutch people around?) --[[User:IByte\|IByte]] ([[User talk:IByte\|talk]]) 13:34, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
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		+	I've been thinking that hack all grade at Cibersecurity to 100% or to the minimal approval grade, should get all students approved. Unlike the Guess 2/3 of the average problem, student don't need to hit the mark to be approved, they need only to get close enough. If everyone receives maximum grade in Cybersecurity, the average will be 100% and they will be off the 80% by 20%. Assuming some linearity between the transformations of distance and grade, and that grade cannot be negative. The longest distance from 80% of average would be everybody gets maximum grade, but one who get zero, it would get closer to 80% off, as long we have a lot of students in the class. Assuming 80% off zero grade, and 0% off as maximum, 20% off would get them 75% of maximum grade, that seems enough to get approval in both classes. --[[User:Hugoxrosa\|Hugoxrosa]] ([[User talk:Hugoxrosa\|talk]]) 19:33, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
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		+	I have heard that some cybersecurity tests either involve defending a network or attacking one, and your final grade was how successful you were.

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−	~~<!--Please sign your posts~~ with ~~~~~~ and don't delete this text. New comments should be added at the bottom.-->~~	+	I recently tried out a School Grade Hacker and was impressed with what it offered. This hacker was really easy to use and was able to quickly help me fix all the school grades that I needed. It was also accurate and gave me the exact grade I wanted. The best part about this School Grade Hacker is that it was almost free compared to the time and energy I had invested studying earlier and still couldn't pass those courses until this hacker helped me upgrade my exam score. So I didn't have to worry about spending a lot of money to use it. Overall, I would highly recommend this School Grade Hacker to anyone who needs to quickly and accurately upgrade their school grades and credit score. Write this hacker on (Cybergenie@cyberservices.com) WhatsApp (+1) 252-512-0391) and thank me later...!!!!
−	~~Perhaps add a note about how multiple people trying to achieve the same goal would be impossible, so therefore~~ it ~~would be a test of game theory to see how the final grades end up~~. ~~You'd want~~ to ~~be the last one~~ to ~~make~~ all the ~~changes. [[Special:Contributions/162.158~~.~~107.197\|162.158.107.197]] 23:51, 13 November 2020 (UTC)~~
−	:It~~'s a contest to hack the grades ''~~and~~'' to lock out all of the other students from making further changes. [[User:BunsenH\|BunsenH]] ([[User talk:BunsenH\|talk]]) 00:49, 14 November 2020 (UTC)~~
−	~~Title text seems to be a reference to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guess_2/3_of_the_average.~~
−	~~[[User:Anonymous3\|Anonymous3]] ([[User talk:Anonymous3\|talk]]) 01:10, 14 November 2020 (UTC)~~
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−	The current "change every fifth answer to the bubble below it" explanation appears to make the implausible assumption that the exam is multiple-choice. [[User:BunsenH\|BunsenH]] ([[User talk:BunsenH\|talk]]) 03:19, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
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−	~~Clearly the optimal solution for both courses is to change~~ the grade ~~to be ''out of 0'', thus a score of 0 being a perfect score and also meet the requirements for Game Theory. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.165.54\|162.158.165.54]] 03:28, 14 November 2020 (UTC)~~
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−	:great idea! i was considering adding fake students to be statistical extremes but your solution allows all students to ace both courses. [[User:Ocæon\|ocæon]] ([[User talk:Ocæon\|talk]]) 14:46, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
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−	~~:That's a great way to get a division by zero error somewhere. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.222.155\|162.158.222.155]] 21:59, 28 January 2022 (UTC)~~
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−	~~OMG~~ I ~~want so much to take this class, what an excellent final exam![[Special:Contributions/172~~.~~68.65.208\|172.68.65.208]] 05:09, 14 November 2020 (UTC)~~
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−	~~I think the explanation above is largely correct, but I assumed~~ this ~~was a Zoom reference. Since during lockdown the many students she~~ is addressing should be experiencing this through a remote meeting, for which Zoom is often chosen (I'd love an explanation as to why THAT is). Zoom has notorious security flaws which any cybersecurity student should be failed for accepting.
−	~~--[[Special:Contributions/162.158.159.96\|162.158.159.96]] 05:11, 14 November 2020 (UTC)~~
−	~~:What if they run~~ it ~~in sandboxed virtual machine? -- [[User:Hkmaly\|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly\|talk]]) 20:45, 14 November 2020 (UTC)~~
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−	~~No mention of Bobby Tables? [[User:Gvanrossum\|Gvanrossum]] ([[User talk:Gvanrossum\|talk]]) 06:29, 14 November 2020 (UTC)~~
−	~~:That~~ was ~~a mom intentionally hacking multiple systems. Not just school, but also population census systems. This is limited~~ to ~~a single test. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.38\|141.101.98.38]] 21:08, 14 November 2020 (UTC)~~
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−	the ~~zero length exam reminds~~ me ~~of 'zero day' exploits, the students have zero time to respond to the exam requirements before the conclusion of the~~ exam. ~~[[User:Ocæon\|ocæon]] ([[User talk:Ocæon\|talk]]) 14:39, 14 November 2020 (UTC)~~
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−	I feel like Randall missed a golden opportunity for Danish (instead of generic Ponytail) to prof these classes — this seems right up her alley. [[User:TPS\|TPS]] ([[User talk:TPS\|talk]]) 16:17, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
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−	~~1) Hack my Cybersecurity grade, 2) Hack the professor~~'~~s computer~~ to ~~remove the requiring link to the grade in the other course. -Diana~~
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−	~~There is exactly one Nash Equilibria if you set the utility function to be the sum of the cyber security grade and the game theory grade. And it would be to give yourself~~ a ~~100% in cyber security - Philip Geißler~~
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−	This cartoon reminded me of a programming class I took as a Freshman at MIT (Spring 1974) where the first lecture described the way the programming projects were submitted and automatically graded. "Some of ~~you may be considering finding a way to hack the grading program~~ to ~~just give you a good grade. This is an acceptable way to pass this course, since~~ it ~~is our analysis that subverting the grading program in this way demonstrates mastery of the subject matter~~.~~" OK~~, I ~~know~~ this isn't a comment about the comic, but I lust felt like tossing it in. And more relevant (possibly) was the fact that being the last semester the course was taught, the final exam questions were all inside computer programming jokes. [[User:MAP\|MAP]] ([[User talk:MAP\|talk]]) 21:55, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
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−	~~Given that the grade~~ to be manipulated is only the grade of the final exam of Cybersecurity (and therefore not the grade for the entire class), but the grade that it affects is the grade for the entire Game Theory class, that there is no reason not to collaborate, and that how "closeness" is calculated is unclear, the ideal solution is to set the grade of every Cybersecurity student who ~~is not also a Game Theory student~~ to ~~100,~~ and set the grade of every Cybersecurity student who is also a Game Theory student to 100(100-a)/(125-a), where a is the percentage of Cybersecurity students who are also Game Theory students. This ensures all Cybersecurity students who are also Game Theory students get a perfect 4.0 GPA in Game Theory while reducing their ~~Cybersecurity~~ score ~~by the smallest possible amount~~. ~~[[User:DL Draco Rex\|DL Draco Rex]]~~ (~~[[User talk:DL Draco Rex\|talk]]) 17:12, 15 November 2020 (UTC)~~
−	:There is a factor you haven't accounted for - hacking carries an implicit penalty in the form of effort expended; although I would like to think students will go to any amount of effort to get a good grade, I wonder whether that is realistic. ~~[[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.124\|141.101.98.124]] 15:38, 20 November 2020 (UTC~~)
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−	~~I just have to say this for fans of the Dutch comedy show ''Rundfunk'': "ALLEMAAL EEN ONVOLDOENDE!"~~ (~~Any more Dutch people around?~~) --~~[[User:IByte\|IByte]] ([[User talk:IByte\|talk]]~~) ~~13:34, 16 November 2020 (UTC)~~
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−	I've been thinking that hack all grade at Cibersecurity to 100% or to the minimal approval grade, should get all students approved. Unlike the Guess 2/3 of the average problem, student don't need to hit the mark to be approved, they need only to get close enough. If everyone receives maximum grade in Cybersecurity, the average will be 100% and ~~they will be off the 80% by 20%~~. ~~Assuming some linearity between the transformations of distance and grade, and that grade cannot be negative~~. The longest distance from 80% of average would be everybody gets maximum grade, but one who get zero, it would get closer to 80% off, as long we have a lot of students in the class. Assuming 80% off zero grade, and 0% off as maximum, 20% off would get them 75% of maximum grade, that seems enough to get approval in both classes. --[[User:Hugoxrosa\|Hugoxrosa]] ([[User talk:Hugoxrosa\|talk]]) 19:33, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
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−	~~I have heard that some cybersecurity tests either involve defending a network or attacking one, and your final grade was how successful you were~~.

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	:great idea! i was considering adding fake students to be statistical extremes but your solution allows all students to ace both courses. [[User:Ocæon\|ocæon]] ([[User talk:Ocæon\|talk]]) 14:46, 14 November 2020 (UTC)		:great idea! i was considering adding fake students to be statistical extremes but your solution allows all students to ace both courses. [[User:Ocæon\|ocæon]] ([[User talk:Ocæon\|talk]]) 14:46, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
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		+	:That's a great way to get a division by zero error somewhere. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.222.155\|162.158.222.155]] 21:59, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

	OMG I want so much to take this class, what an excellent final exam![[Special:Contributions/172.68.65.208\|172.68.65.208]] 05:09, 14 November 2020 (UTC)		OMG I want so much to take this class, what an excellent final exam![[Special:Contributions/172.68.65.208\|172.68.65.208]] 05:09, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

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	I've been thinking that hack all grade at Cibersecurity to 100% or to the minimal approval grade, should get all students approved. Unlike the Guess 2/3 of the average problem, student don't need to hit the mark to be approved, they need only to get close enough. If everyone receives maximum grade in Cybersecurity, the average will be 100% and they will be off the 80% by 20%. Assuming some linearity between the transformations of distance and grade, and that grade cannot be negative. The longest distance from 80% of average would be everybody gets maximum grade, but one who get zero, it would get closer to 80% off, as long we have a lot of students in the class. Assuming 80% off zero grade, and 0% off as maximum, 20% off would get them 75% of maximum grade, that seems enough to get approval in both classes. --[[User:Hugoxrosa\|Hugoxrosa]] ([[User talk:Hugoxrosa\|talk]]) 19:33, 1 December 2020 (UTC)		I've been thinking that hack all grade at Cibersecurity to 100% or to the minimal approval grade, should get all students approved. Unlike the Guess 2/3 of the average problem, student don't need to hit the mark to be approved, they need only to get close enough. If everyone receives maximum grade in Cybersecurity, the average will be 100% and they will be off the 80% by 20%. Assuming some linearity between the transformations of distance and grade, and that grade cannot be negative. The longest distance from 80% of average would be everybody gets maximum grade, but one who get zero, it would get closer to 80% off, as long we have a lot of students in the class. Assuming 80% off zero grade, and 0% off as maximum, 20% off would get them 75% of maximum grade, that seems enough to get approval in both classes. --[[User:Hugoxrosa\|Hugoxrosa]] ([[User talk:Hugoxrosa\|talk]]) 19:33, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
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		+	I have heard that some cybersecurity tests either involve defending a network or attacking one, and your final grade was how successful you were.

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	I just have to say this for fans of the Dutch comedy show ''Rundfunk'': "ALLEMAAL EEN ONVOLDOENDE!" (Any more Dutch people around?) --[[User:IByte\|IByte]] ([[User talk:IByte\|talk]]) 13:34, 16 November 2020 (UTC)		I just have to say this for fans of the Dutch comedy show ''Rundfunk'': "ALLEMAAL EEN ONVOLDOENDE!" (Any more Dutch people around?) --[[User:IByte\|IByte]] ([[User talk:IByte\|talk]]) 13:34, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
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		+	I've been thinking that hack all grade at Cibersecurity to 100% or to the minimal approval grade, should get all students approved. Unlike the Guess 2/3 of the average problem, student don't need to hit the mark to be approved, they need only to get close enough. If everyone receives maximum grade in Cybersecurity, the average will be 100% and they will be off the 80% by 20%. Assuming some linearity between the transformations of distance and grade, and that grade cannot be negative. The longest distance from 80% of average would be everybody gets maximum grade, but one who get zero, it would get closer to 80% off, as long we have a lot of students in the class. Assuming 80% off zero grade, and 0% off as maximum, 20% off would get them 75% of maximum grade, that seems enough to get approval in both classes. --[[User:Hugoxrosa\|Hugoxrosa]] ([[User talk:Hugoxrosa\|talk]]) 19:33, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

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	Given that the grade to be manipulated is only the grade of the final exam of Cybersecurity (and therefore not the grade for the entire class), but the grade that it affects is the grade for the entire Game Theory class, that there is no reason not to collaborate, and that how "closeness" is calculated is unclear, the ideal solution is to set the grade of every Cybersecurity student who is not also a Game Theory student to 100, and set the grade of every Cybersecurity student who is also a Game Theory student to 100(100-a)/(125-a), where a is the percentage of Cybersecurity students who are also Game Theory students. This ensures all Cybersecurity students who are also Game Theory students get a perfect 4.0 GPA in Game Theory while reducing their Cybersecurity score by the smallest possible amount. [[User:DL Draco Rex\|DL Draco Rex]] ([[User talk:DL Draco Rex\|talk]]) 17:12, 15 November 2020 (UTC)		Given that the grade to be manipulated is only the grade of the final exam of Cybersecurity (and therefore not the grade for the entire class), but the grade that it affects is the grade for the entire Game Theory class, that there is no reason not to collaborate, and that how "closeness" is calculated is unclear, the ideal solution is to set the grade of every Cybersecurity student who is not also a Game Theory student to 100, and set the grade of every Cybersecurity student who is also a Game Theory student to 100(100-a)/(125-a), where a is the percentage of Cybersecurity students who are also Game Theory students. This ensures all Cybersecurity students who are also Game Theory students get a perfect 4.0 GPA in Game Theory while reducing their Cybersecurity score by the smallest possible amount. [[User:DL Draco Rex\|DL Draco Rex]] ([[User talk:DL Draco Rex\|talk]]) 17:12, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
		+	:There is a factor you haven't accounted for - hacking carries an implicit penalty in the form of effort expended; although I would like to think students will go to any amount of effort to get a good grade, I wonder whether that is realistic. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.124\|141.101.98.124]] 15:38, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

	I just have to say this for fans of the Dutch comedy show ''Rundfunk'': "ALLEMAAL EEN ONVOLDOENDE!" (Any more Dutch people around?) --[[User:IByte\|IByte]] ([[User talk:IByte\|talk]]) 13:34, 16 November 2020 (UTC)		I just have to say this for fans of the Dutch comedy show ''Rundfunk'': "ALLEMAAL EEN ONVOLDOENDE!" (Any more Dutch people around?) --[[User:IByte\|IByte]] ([[User talk:IByte\|talk]]) 13:34, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

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	Given that the grade to be manipulated is only the grade of the final exam of Cybersecurity (and therefore not the grade for the entire class), but the grade that it affects is the grade for the entire Game Theory class, that there is no reason not to collaborate, and that how "closeness" is calculated is unclear, the ideal solution is to set the grade of every Cybersecurity student who is not also a Game Theory student to 100, and set the grade of every Cybersecurity student who is also a Game Theory student to 100(100-a)/(125-a), where a is the percentage of Cybersecurity students who are also Game Theory students. This ensures all Cybersecurity students who are also Game Theory students get a perfect 4.0 GPA in Game Theory while reducing their Cybersecurity score by the smallest possible amount. [[User:DL Draco Rex\|DL Draco Rex]] ([[User talk:DL Draco Rex\|talk]]) 17:12, 15 November 2020 (UTC)		Given that the grade to be manipulated is only the grade of the final exam of Cybersecurity (and therefore not the grade for the entire class), but the grade that it affects is the grade for the entire Game Theory class, that there is no reason not to collaborate, and that how "closeness" is calculated is unclear, the ideal solution is to set the grade of every Cybersecurity student who is not also a Game Theory student to 100, and set the grade of every Cybersecurity student who is also a Game Theory student to 100(100-a)/(125-a), where a is the percentage of Cybersecurity students who are also Game Theory students. This ensures all Cybersecurity students who are also Game Theory students get a perfect 4.0 GPA in Game Theory while reducing their Cybersecurity score by the smallest possible amount. [[User:DL Draco Rex\|DL Draco Rex]] ([[User talk:DL Draco Rex\|talk]]) 17:12, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
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		+	I just have to say this for fans of the Dutch comedy show ''Rundfunk'': "ALLEMAAL EEN ONVOLDOENDE!" (Any more Dutch people around?) --[[User:IByte\|IByte]] ([[User talk:IByte\|talk]]) 13:34, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

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	This cartoon reminded me of a programming class I took as a Freshman at MIT (Spring 1974) where the first lecture described the way the programming projects were submitted and automatically graded. "Some of you may be considering finding a way to hack the grading program to just give you a good grade. This is an acceptable way to pass this course, since it is our analysis that subverting the grading program in this way demonstrates mastery of the subject matter." OK, I know this isn't a comment about the comic, but I lust felt like tossing it in. And more relevant (possibly) was the fact that being the last semester the course was taught, the final exam questions were all inside computer programming jokes. [[User:MAP\|MAP]] ([[User talk:MAP\|talk]]) 21:55, 14 November 2020 (UTC)		This cartoon reminded me of a programming class I took as a Freshman at MIT (Spring 1974) where the first lecture described the way the programming projects were submitted and automatically graded. "Some of you may be considering finding a way to hack the grading program to just give you a good grade. This is an acceptable way to pass this course, since it is our analysis that subverting the grading program in this way demonstrates mastery of the subject matter." OK, I know this isn't a comment about the comic, but I lust felt like tossing it in. And more relevant (possibly) was the fact that being the last semester the course was taught, the final exam questions were all inside computer programming jokes. [[User:MAP\|MAP]] ([[User talk:MAP\|talk]]) 21:55, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
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		+	Given that the grade to be manipulated is only the grade of the final exam of Cybersecurity (and therefore not the grade for the entire class), but the grade that it affects is the grade for the entire Game Theory class, that there is no reason not to collaborate, and that how "closeness" is calculated is unclear, the ideal solution is to set the grade of every Cybersecurity student who is not also a Game Theory student to 100, and set the grade of every Cybersecurity student who is also a Game Theory student to 100(100-a)/(125-a), where a is the percentage of Cybersecurity students who are also Game Theory students. This ensures all Cybersecurity students who are also Game Theory students get a perfect 4.0 GPA in Game Theory while reducing their Cybersecurity score by the smallest possible amount. [[User:DL Draco Rex\|DL Draco Rex]] ([[User talk:DL Draco Rex\|talk]]) 17:12, 15 November 2020 (UTC)