Talk:2392: Cyber Cafe - Revision history

Bubblegum at 03:27, 2 December 2020

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Bubblegum at 03:19, 2 December 2020

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108.162.219.176 at 20:43, 1 December 2020

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Bubblegum at 18:02, 1 December 2020

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Cellocgw at 12:31, 1 December 2020

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141.101.98.158 at 11:47, 1 December 2020

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162.158.94.186 at 11:32, 1 December 2020

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162.158.94.186 at 11:31, 1 December 2020

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Bubblegum at 04:13, 1 December 2020

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 ::The "edit this page" link in the incomplete transcript template. <span style="font-family:Palatino,serif">[[User:Bubblegum|<span style="color:#00BFFF">bubblegum</span>]]-[[User_talk:Bubblegum|<span style="color:#BF7FFF">talk</span>]]|[[Special:Contributions/Bubblegum|<span style="color:#FF7FFF">contribs</span>]]</span> <span style="font-family:Palatino">18:02, 1 December 2020 (UTC)</span>
 :::(Moved into the right spot in the conversation.) Well, it's class="external text", which sounds like it'd do what you say it does. (Mauve? Maybe, but I'd not call it that.) Must just come from the template it inserts from. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.219.176|108.162.219.176]] 20:43, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
 "Cyber" is 'dated'? Well, I suppose it has been around as a popular term for a while, probably even before Gibson (and long-standing Internet Cafes 'round here now seem more to be rebranded as eSports hosts, because ''almost'' everyone who cares for one has an Internetted-device on their desk, kitchen table, maybe in their pocket, but a good well-maintained machine for the latest faddy FPSing or any satisfyingly tactile wheel/pedal controller seems to be what they can still offer up, almost arcadian...) but I don't think in the last thirty years I ever said "I'm in Cyber", even though I probably am by today's lingo (old fuddy-duddy as I am, I just say I work "in computing", if anybody has had to feign social interest in me to ask - and then reel off some of my actual sub-specialities if they foolishly indicate a desire to know more). Nor have I ever used such a café, in any capacity, but probably more from a "safe hex" standpoint (malware remediation and cracker-thwarting having been a big part of my career, for several years either side of the Millenium) than this year's issue with a certain non-software virus... [[Special:Contributions/162.158.158.43|162.158.158.43]] 05:03, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

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	You young kids etc etc. First use of "cybernetics" is from "Cybernetics: Or Control and Communication in the Animal and the Machine is a book written by Norbert Wiener and published in 1948." (Wikipedia). First use of "cyborg" is from 1960 , Manfred Clynes and Nathan S. Kline. Pretty much all compound "Cyber-$NOUN" words derive from "cybernetics." [[User:Cellocgw\|Cellocgw]] ([[User talk:Cellocgw\|talk]]) 12:31, 1 December 2020 (UTC)		You young kids etc etc. First use of "cybernetics" is from "Cybernetics: Or Control and Communication in the Animal and the Machine is a book written by Norbert Wiener and published in 1948." (Wikipedia). First use of "cyborg" is from 1960 , Manfred Clynes and Nathan S. Kline. Pretty much all compound "Cyber-$NOUN" words derive from "cybernetics." [[User:Cellocgw\|Cellocgw]] ([[User talk:Cellocgw\|talk]]) 12:31, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
	[[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.158\|141.101.98.158]] 11:47, 1 December 2020 (UTC)		[[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.158\|141.101.98.158]] 11:47, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
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		+	Note to the transcriptors, for both this comic and [[2351: Standard Model Changes]]: don't include the title text in the transcript. <span style="font-family:serif">[[User:Bubblegum\|<span style="color:#00BFFF">bubblegum</span>]]-[[User_talk:Bubblegum\|<span style="color:#BF7FFF">talk</span>]]\|[[Special:Contributions/Bubblegum\|<span style="color:#FF7FFF">contribs</span>]]</span> <span style="font-family:serif">03:19, 2 December 2020 (UTC)</span>

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 Unrelated to cybercafés, but why is the edit link the viewed-outside mauve instead of the viewed-wiki violet? <span style="font-family:Palatino,serif">[[User:Bubblegum|<span style="color:#00BFFF">bubblegum</span>]]-[[User_talk:Bubblegum|<span style="color:#BF7FFF">talk</span>]]|[[Special:Contributions/Bubblegum|<span style="color:#FF7FFF">contribs</span>]]</span> <span style="font-family:Palatino">04:13, 1 December 2020 (UTC)</span>
 :Which edit link(s)? The 'faux tab' ("Read | Edit | View History", etc) the "*TITLE HEADER* (Edit)" or A.N.Other? Is it something specific to your own browser stylesheet? Or set by your Wikilogin? For me (simple IP as I am) the only links of different colours (passing over your own .sig, Bubblegum) are the Main page/Latest comic/Community portal/xkcd.com links in the sidebar((*)), and those are in the universal "visited page" hue (because I have visited these) and all other non-image link text are in the colour of universally standard yet-to-visit link colour that is probably the same as NCSA Mosaic originally established/adopted (though I don't know if that's because it's set by the wikicode/styles or fallen back to default). ((* - plus, now, the "add a comment!" link and also the cybersex one, as a random in-explanation link I tested going to while writing this reply.)) [[Special:Contributions/162.158.158.43|162.158.158.43]] 05:03, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
 "Cyber" is 'dated'? Well, I suppose it has been around as a popular term for a while, probably even before Gibson (and long-standing Internet Cafes 'round here now seem more to be rebranded as eSports hosts, because ''almost'' everyone who cares for one has an Internetted-device on their desk, kitchen table, maybe in their pocket, but a good well-maintained machine for the latest faddy FPSing or any satisfyingly tactile wheel/pedal controller seems to be what they can still offer up, almost arcadian...) but I don't think in the last thirty years I ever said "I'm in Cyber", even though I probably am by today's lingo (old fuddy-duddy as I am, I just say I work "in computing", if anybody has had to feign social interest in me to ask - and then reel off some of my actual sub-specialities if they foolishly indicate a desire to know more). Nor have I ever used such a café, in any capacity, but probably more from a "safe hex" standpoint (malware remediation and cracker-thwarting having been a big part of my career, for several years either side of the Millenium) than this year's issue with a certain non-software virus... [[Special:Contributions/162.158.158.43|162.158.158.43]] 05:03, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
 "this comic suggests that [cyber] sounds dated" Maybe that was so long ago that some people don't remember it. In the 90s, everything was cyber. The internet was "cyberspace". This weird, nerdy, futuristic thing. Then it became mainstream and the term mostly vanished. And since then "cyber" was very dated. It only stuck around in some words like "cyber cafe". [[Special:Contributions/162.158.94.186|162.158.94.186]] 11:32, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

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 :Which edit link(s)? The 'faux tab' ("Read | Edit | View History", etc) the "*TITLE HEADER* (Edit)" or A.N.Other? Is it something specific to your own browser stylesheet? Or set by your Wikilogin? For me (simple IP as I am) the only links of different colours (passing over your own .sig, Bubblegum) are the Main page/Latest comic/Community portal/xkcd.com links in the sidebar((*)), and those are in the universal "visited page" hue (because I have visited these) and all other non-image link text are in the colour of universally standard yet-to-visit link colour that is probably the same as NCSA Mosaic originally established/adopted (though I don't know if that's because it's set by the wikicode/styles or fallen back to default). ((* - plus, now, the "add a comment!" link and also the cybersex one, as a random in-explanation link I tested going to while writing this reply.)) [[Special:Contributions/162.158.158.43|162.158.158.43]] 05:03, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
 "Cyber" is 'dated'? Well, I suppose it has been around as a popular term for a while, probably even before Gibson (and long-standing Internet Cafes 'round here now seem more to be rebranded as eSports hosts, because ''almost'' everyone who cares for one has an Internetted-device on their desk, kitchen table, maybe in their pocket, but a good well-maintained machine for the latest faddy FPSing or any satisfyingly tactile wheel/pedal controller seems to be what they can still offer up, almost arcadian...) but I don't think in the last thirty years I ever said "I'm in Cyber", even though I probably am by today's lingo (old fuddy-duddy as I am, I just say I work "in computing", if anybody has had to feign social interest in me to ask - and then reel off some of my actual sub-specialities if they foolishly indicate a desire to know more). Nor have I ever used such a café, in any capacity, but probably more from a "safe hex" standpoint (malware remediation and cracker-thwarting having been a big part of my career, for several years either side of the Millenium) than this year's issue with a certain non-software virus... [[Special:Contributions/162.158.158.43|162.158.158.43]] 05:03, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
 "this comic suggests that [cyber] sounds dated" Maybe that was so long ago that some people don't remember it. In the 90s, everything was cyber. The internet was "cyberspace". This weird, nerdy, futuristic thing. Then it became mainstream and the term mostly vanished. And since then "cyber" was very dated. It only stuck around in some words like "cyber cafe". [[Special:Contributions/162.158.94.186|162.158.94.186]] 11:32, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

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 "this comic suggests that [cyber] sounds dated" Maybe that was so long ago that some people don't remember it. In the 90s, everything was cyber. The internet was "cyberspace". This weird, nerdy, futuristic thing. Then it became mainstream and the term mostly vanished. And since then "cyber" was very dated. It only stuck around in some words like "cyber cafe". [[Special:Contributions/162.158.94.186|162.158.94.186]] 11:32, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
 The UK Government still thinks 'cyber' is in use in 2020: https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/fatima-ballet-dancer-job-cyber-government-campaign-a4568641.html
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	"this comic suggests that [cyber] sounds dated" Maybe that was so long ago that some people don't remember it. In the 90s, everything was cyber. The internet was "cyberspace". This weird, nerdy, futuristic thing. Then it became mainstream and the term mostly vanished. And since then "cyber" was very dated. It only stuck around in some words like "cyber cafe". [[Special:Contributions/162.158.94.186\|162.158.94.186]] 11:32, 1 December 2020 (UTC)		"this comic suggests that [cyber] sounds dated" Maybe that was so long ago that some people don't remember it. In the 90s, everything was cyber. The internet was "cyberspace". This weird, nerdy, futuristic thing. Then it became mainstream and the term mostly vanished. And since then "cyber" was very dated. It only stuck around in some words like "cyber cafe". [[Special:Contributions/162.158.94.186\|162.158.94.186]] 11:32, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
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		+	The UK Government still thinks 'cyber' is in use in 2020: https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/fatima-ballet-dancer-job-cyber-government-campaign-a4568641.html
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	:Which edit link(s)? The 'faux tab' ("Read \| Edit \| View History", etc) the "TITLE HEADER (Edit)" or A.N.Other? Is it something specific to your own browser stylesheet? Or set by your Wikilogin? For me (simple IP as I am) the only links of different colours (passing over your own .sig, Bubblegum) are the Main page/Latest comic/Community portal/xkcd.com links in the sidebar(()), and those are in the universal "visited page" hue (because I have visited these) and all other non-image link text are in the colour of universally standard yet-to-visit link colour that is probably the same as NCSA Mosaic originally established/adopted (though I don't know if that's because it's set by the wikicode/styles or fallen back to default). (( - plus, now, the "add a comment!" link and also the cybersex one, as a random in-explanation link I tested going to while writing this reply.)) [[Special:Contributions/162.158.158.43\|162.158.158.43]] 05:03, 1 December 2020 (UTC)		:Which edit link(s)? The 'faux tab' ("Read \| Edit \| View History", etc) the "TITLE HEADER (Edit)" or A.N.Other? Is it something specific to your own browser stylesheet? Or set by your Wikilogin? For me (simple IP as I am) the only links of different colours (passing over your own .sig, Bubblegum) are the Main page/Latest comic/Community portal/xkcd.com links in the sidebar(()), and those are in the universal "visited page" hue (because I have visited these) and all other non-image link text are in the colour of universally standard yet-to-visit link colour that is probably the same as NCSA Mosaic originally established/adopted (though I don't know if that's because it's set by the wikicode/styles or fallen back to default). (( - plus, now, the "add a comment!" link and also the cybersex one, as a random in-explanation link I tested going to while writing this reply.)) [[Special:Contributions/162.158.158.43\|162.158.158.43]] 05:03, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
	"Cyber" is 'dated'? Well, I suppose it has been around as a popular term for a while, probably even before Gibson (and long-standing Internet Cafes 'round here now seem more to be rebranded as eSports hosts, because ''almost'' everyone who cares for one has an Internetted-device on their desk, kitchen table, maybe in their pocket, but a good well-maintained machine for the latest faddy FPSing or any satisfyingly tactile wheel/pedal controller seems to be what they can still offer up, almost arcadian...) but I don't think in the last thirty years I ever said "I'm in Cyber", even though I probably am by today's lingo (old fuddy-duddy as I am, I just say I work "in computing", if anybody has had to feign social interest in me to ask - and then reel off some of my actual sub-specialities if they foolishly indicate a desire to know more). Nor have I ever used such a café, in any capacity, but probably more from a "safe hex" standpoint (malware remediation and cracker-thwarting having been a big part of my career, for several years either side of the Millenium) than this year's issue with a certain non-software virus... [[Special:Contributions/162.158.158.43\|162.158.158.43]] 05:03, 1 December 2020 (UTC)		"Cyber" is 'dated'? Well, I suppose it has been around as a popular term for a while, probably even before Gibson (and long-standing Internet Cafes 'round here now seem more to be rebranded as eSports hosts, because ''almost'' everyone who cares for one has an Internetted-device on their desk, kitchen table, maybe in their pocket, but a good well-maintained machine for the latest faddy FPSing or any satisfyingly tactile wheel/pedal controller seems to be what they can still offer up, almost arcadian...) but I don't think in the last thirty years I ever said "I'm in Cyber", even though I probably am by today's lingo (old fuddy-duddy as I am, I just say I work "in computing", if anybody has had to feign social interest in me to ask - and then reel off some of my actual sub-specialities if they foolishly indicate a desire to know more). Nor have I ever used such a café, in any capacity, but probably more from a "safe hex" standpoint (malware remediation and cracker-thwarting having been a big part of my career, for several years either side of the Millenium) than this year's issue with a certain non-software virus... [[Special:Contributions/162.158.158.43\|162.158.158.43]] 05:03, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
		+	"this comic suggests that [cyber] sounds dated" Maybe that was so long ago that some people don't remember it. In the 90s, everything was cyber. The internet was "cyberspace". This weird, nerdy, futuristic thing. Then it became mainstream and the term mostly vanished. And since then "cyber" was very dated. It only stuck around in some words like "cyber cafe".

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	Unrelated to cybercafés, but why is the edit link the viewed-outside mauve instead of the viewed-wiki violet? <span style="font-family:Palatino,serif">[[User:Bubblegum\|<span style="color:#00BFFF">bubblegum</span>]]-[[User_talk:Bubblegum\|<span style="color:#BF7FFF">talk</span>]]\|[[Special:Contributions/Bubblegum\|<span style="color:#FF7FFF">contribs</span>]]</span> <span style="font-family:Palatino">04:13, 1 December 2020 (UTC)</span>		Unrelated to cybercafés, but why is the edit link the viewed-outside mauve instead of the viewed-wiki violet? <span style="font-family:Palatino,serif">[[User:Bubblegum\|<span style="color:#00BFFF">bubblegum</span>]]-[[User_talk:Bubblegum\|<span style="color:#BF7FFF">talk</span>]]\|[[Special:Contributions/Bubblegum\|<span style="color:#FF7FFF">contribs</span>]]</span> <span style="font-family:Palatino">04:13, 1 December 2020 (UTC)</span>
		+	:Which edit link(s)? The 'faux tab' ("Read \| Edit \| View History", etc) the "TITLE HEADER (Edit)" or A.N.Other? Is it something specific to your own browser stylesheet? Or set by your Wikilogin? For me (simple IP as I am) the only links of different colours (passing over your own .sig, Bubblegum) are the Main page/Latest comic/Community portal/xkcd.com links in the sidebar(()), and those are in the universal "visited page" hue (because I have visited these) and all other non-image link text are in the colour of universally standard yet-to-visit link colour that is probably the same as NCSA Mosaic originally established/adopted (though I don't know if that's because it's set by the wikicode/styles or fallen back to default). (( - plus, now, the "add a comment!" link and also the cybersex one, as a random in-explanation link I tested going to while writing this reply.)) [[Special:Contributions/162.158.158.43\|162.158.158.43]] 05:03, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
		+	"Cyber" is 'dated'? Well, I suppose it has been around as a popular term for a while, probably even before Gibson (and long-standing Internet Cafes 'round here now seem more to be rebranded as eSports hosts, because ''almost'' everyone who cares for one has an Internetted-device on their desk, kitchen table, maybe in their pocket, but a good well-maintained machine for the latest faddy FPSing or any satisfyingly tactile wheel/pedal controller seems to be what they can still offer up, almost arcadian...) but I don't think in the last thirty years I ever said "I'm in Cyber", even though I probably am by today's lingo (old fuddy-duddy as I am, I just say I work "in computing", if anybody has had to feign social interest in me to ask - and then reel off some of my actual sub-specialities if they foolishly indicate a desire to know more). Nor have I ever used such a café, in any capacity, but probably more from a "safe hex" standpoint (malware remediation and cracker-thwarting having been a big part of my career, for several years either side of the Millenium) than this year's issue with a certain non-software virus... [[Special:Contributions/162.158.158.43\|162.158.158.43]] 05:03, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

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	Is it worth noting that this was posted on Cyber Monday? [[Special:Contributions/162.158.75.70\|162.158.75.70]] 21:57, 30 November 2020 (UTC)		Is it worth noting that this was posted on Cyber Monday? [[Special:Contributions/162.158.75.70\|162.158.75.70]] 21:57, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
	:Yes! That's almost certainly relevant. [[User:Barmar\|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar\|talk]])		:Yes! That's almost certainly relevant. [[User:Barmar\|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar\|talk]])
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		+	Unrelated to cybercafés, but why is the edit link the viewed-outside mauve instead of the viewed-wiki violet? <span style="font-family:Palatino,serif">[[User:Bubblegum\|<span style="color:#00BFFF">bubblegum</span>]]-[[User_talk:Bubblegum\|<span style="color:#BF7FFF">talk</span>]]\|[[Special:Contributions/Bubblegum\|<span style="color:#FF7FFF">contribs</span>]]</span> <span style="font-family:Palatino">04:13, 1 December 2020 (UTC)</span>