Talk:2395: Covid Precaution Level - Revision history

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−	It's perhaps worth noting that at the time of this comic (Early pandemic) it was very uncertain quite how deadly COVID-19 was and many people were genuinely scared of dying. My interpretation here is that Randall was one of those in the way the title text is written (remember for some time 1%+ fatality rate was being thrown around).	+	It's perhaps worth noting that at the time of this comic (Early pandemic) it was very uncertain quite how deadly COVID-19 was and many people were genuinely scared of dying. My interpretation here is that Randall was one of those in the way the title text is written (remember for some time 1%+ fatality rate was being thrown around). {{unsigned ip\|141.101.107.83\|23:19, 27 January 2023}}
		+	:It might not even be personal, direct risk, but (if you ever think about these things at all) the fact that your developing the disease means that: a) Someone else has been thoughtless/careless/ignorant about their potential to infect, b) Prior to your own realisation that "you're it", you probably also passed it onwards. So that's an unknown multiple of other people (not all of whom are as resilient as you hope you are, and a number of them who you probably care about) who will also now have caught it and may be separately passing it on. And, with all kinds of new precautions being taken that hobble the medical professions (by trying to keep them ''being'' effective medical persons, whether first-responders or ward staff of those treating people for things that are happening ''independently'' of Covid) the probability becomes that anyone who needs care (for anything) is going to be less promptly given what care they might otherwise expect.
		+	:Since vaccines became available(/PPE shortages aren't so much a thing/variants settled on being milder/you can assume you'd already shrugged off the worse effects after being involved a prior wave/actual sane treatments are now well known, tested and in use) the same feeling of facing the unknowable is a ''lot'' less intense. (Although that's what then allows exactly what should be feared to gradually build up into a new wave, unfettered by the possibly overcautious but certainly effective knee-jerk practices of the early lockdowns that we have mostly since abandoned.)
		+	:When it seems safe, that's when it can be more dangerous. When it seems dangerous, that's when it can be safest. (If only a few people get infected, but due to biological naïvity and having entered more fragile people it's a >1% percentage fatality, it looks bad. If ''everyone'' gets infected, yet it's <1% due to all the precautions and prophilactive treatments we now have in place then that ''looks'' better. Unless the <1% of everyone turns out to be numerically more than the >1% of the initially unlucky few.
		+	:I think I'm not more scared than I was, but only in a few aspects am I ''less'' concerned, leaving me fairly heightened. And when I wear my face mask in the supermarket (for the precautionary benefit of others, really) I am often the only one/occasionally find just one other person doing, out of dozens, and practically never the staff servicing the store in various ways who are in the line of fire (and then would start firing themselves) should someone with a novel variant happen to come in for a couple of litres of milk, all innocently but a danger to everyone there (and beyond) all the same... [[Special:Contributions/172.70.90.141\|172.70.90.141]] 02:51, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

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	That's how it feels to do security. You either get hacked or you don't. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.74.157\|162.158.74.157]] 16:11, 11 December 2020 (UTC)		That's how it feels to do security. You either get hacked or you don't. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.74.157\|162.158.74.157]] 16:11, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
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		+	It's perhaps worth noting that at the time of this comic (Early pandemic) it was very uncertain quite how deadly COVID-19 was and many people were genuinely scared of dying. My interpretation here is that Randall was one of those in the way the title text is written (remember for some time 1%+ fatality rate was being thrown around).

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	It may be germane to quote Mike Leavitt, the second President Bush's HHS Secretary: "Anything said in advance of a pandemic seems alarmist. After a pandemic begins, anything one has said or done is inadequate.". [[Special:Contributions/173.245.54.119\|173.245.54.119]] 23:41, 10 December 2020 (UTC)		It may be germane to quote Mike Leavitt, the second President Bush's HHS Secretary: "Anything said in advance of a pandemic seems alarmist. After a pandemic begins, anything one has said or done is inadequate.". [[Special:Contributions/173.245.54.119\|173.245.54.119]] 23:41, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
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		+	That's how it feels to do security. You either get hacked or you don't. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.74.157\|162.158.74.157]] 16:11, 11 December 2020 (UTC)

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	To whoever is doing the transcripts: check the earlier comics' transcriptions like [[1796: Focus Knob]]. This is too…conversational or whatever. <span style="font-family:serif">[[User:Bubblegum\|<span style="color:#00BFFF">bubblegum</span>]]-[[User_talk:Bubblegum\|<span style="color:#BF7FFF">talk</span>]]\|[[Special:Contributions/Bubblegum\|<span style="color:#FF7FFF">contribs</span>]]</span> <span style="font-family:serif">18:40, 9 December 2020 (UTC)</span>		To whoever is doing the transcripts: check the earlier comics' transcriptions like [[1796: Focus Knob]]. This is too…conversational or whatever. <span style="font-family:serif">[[User:Bubblegum\|<span style="color:#00BFFF">bubblegum</span>]]-[[User_talk:Bubblegum\|<span style="color:#BF7FFF">talk</span>]]\|[[Special:Contributions/Bubblegum\|<span style="color:#FF7FFF">contribs</span>]]</span> <span style="font-family:serif">18:40, 9 December 2020 (UTC)</span>
	:I saw the current 'Transcript' when it was originally a middle bit of the Explanation (hence why more conversational?) and I'm sure checking the Edit History will reveal that it was just moved wholesale for whatever reason. I note that very few other additions were made to the main text (while the comments have multiplied manyfold since I added the second one down) so maybe I/someone should just tidy it up, correct the Transcript as you suggest and remove the Incomplete bit. I'll give it a thought, if nobody takes up that mantle... [[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.96\|141.101.98.96]] 23:56, 9 December 2020 (UTC)		:I saw the current 'Transcript' when it was originally a middle bit of the Explanation (hence why more conversational?) and I'm sure checking the Edit History will reveal that it was just moved wholesale for whatever reason. I note that very few other additions were made to the main text (while the comments have multiplied manyfold since I added the second one down) so maybe I/someone should just tidy it up, correct the Transcript as you suggest and remove the Incomplete bit. I'll give it a thought, if nobody takes up that mantle... [[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.96\|141.101.98.96]] 23:56, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
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		+	It may be germane to quote Mike Leavitt, the second President Bush's HHS Secretary: "Anything said in advance of a pandemic seems alarmist. After a pandemic begins, anything one has said or done is inadequate.". [[Special:Contributions/173.245.54.119\|173.245.54.119]] 23:41, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

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	To whoever is doing the transcripts: check the earlier comics' transcriptions like [[1796: Focus Knob]]. This is too…conversational or whatever. <span style="font-family:serif">[[User:Bubblegum\|<span style="color:#00BFFF">bubblegum</span>]]-[[User_talk:Bubblegum\|<span style="color:#BF7FFF">talk</span>]]\|[[Special:Contributions/Bubblegum\|<span style="color:#FF7FFF">contribs</span>]]</span> <span style="font-family:serif">18:40, 9 December 2020 (UTC)</span>		To whoever is doing the transcripts: check the earlier comics' transcriptions like [[1796: Focus Knob]]. This is too…conversational or whatever. <span style="font-family:serif">[[User:Bubblegum\|<span style="color:#00BFFF">bubblegum</span>]]-[[User_talk:Bubblegum\|<span style="color:#BF7FFF">talk</span>]]\|[[Special:Contributions/Bubblegum\|<span style="color:#FF7FFF">contribs</span>]]</span> <span style="font-family:serif">18:40, 9 December 2020 (UTC)</span>
		+	:I saw the current 'Transcript' when it was originally a middle bit of the Explanation (hence why more conversational?) and I'm sure checking the Edit History will reveal that it was just moved wholesale for whatever reason. I note that very few other additions were made to the main text (while the comments have multiplied manyfold since I added the second one down) so maybe I/someone should just tidy it up, correct the Transcript as you suggest and remove the Incomplete bit. I'll give it a thought, if nobody takes up that mantle... [[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.96\|141.101.98.96]] 23:56, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

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 To save the person(s) effort who will ultimately write this into the explanation/transcript in a legible manner: There are 13 subdivisions in Insufficient, 14 subdivisions in Excessive, roughly (close enough to look deliberate, but sloppily so) 6 divisions shared, across a scale of 21 effective divisions. Enjoy! [[Special:Contributions/162.158.158.155|162.158.158.155]] 00:08, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
 The title text reminds me of why I hate shotgun shooting vs. rifle or pistol -- with a rifle or pistol, you can see your misses and correct your aim and/or technique. With a shotgun, it's hit-or-miss with no other feedback.
-[[Special:Contributions/162.158.158.155|162.158.158.155]] 00:08, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
+:(The above edit [https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:2395:_Covid_Precaution_Level&oldid=202884 at this point] was inserted improperly with a duplicated ip/timestamp rather than the four tildes, for whatever reason. Just wanted to point this out. I'm fairly sure other comment additions were similarly sloppy, but this one was obvious.) [[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.82|141.101.98.82]] 19:13, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
 I wonder what is meant by the title text exactly, is the one kind of feedback you can get getting the disease? The way it is phrases it feels like "dying from covid" is the final feedback (you can only get it once and then it's too late). But just getting infected is already some feedback isn't it?

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	I interpreted the feedback to be catching COVID, showing that you weren't cautious enough, but I am afraid that he is being optimistic about only being able to get it once. It's likely that you are resistant for a while after an infection, but some people have had it twice. Both the average duration of resistance and the effects of repeated infections are unknown to me, and I don't know how they could be known by anyone at this point. Hopefully we luck out, and/or get good vaccines soon. [[User:BlakeFelix\|BlakeFelix]] ([[User talk:BlakeFelix\|talk]]) 03:58, 9 December 2020 (UTC)		I interpreted the feedback to be catching COVID, showing that you weren't cautious enough, but I am afraid that he is being optimistic about only being able to get it once. It's likely that you are resistant for a while after an infection, but some people have had it twice. Both the average duration of resistance and the effects of repeated infections are unknown to me, and I don't know how they could be known by anyone at this point. Hopefully we luck out, and/or get good vaccines soon. [[User:BlakeFelix\|BlakeFelix]] ([[User talk:BlakeFelix\|talk]]) 03:58, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
	[[User:BlakeFelix\|BlakeFelix]] ([[User talk:BlakeFelix\|talk]]) 03:58, 9 December 2020 (UTC)		[[User:BlakeFelix\|BlakeFelix]] ([[User talk:BlakeFelix\|talk]]) 03:58, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
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		+	To whoever is doing the transcripts: check the earlier comics' transcriptions like [[1796: Focus Knob]]. This is too…conversational or whatever. <span style="font-family:serif">[[User:Bubblegum\|<span style="color:#00BFFF">bubblegum</span>]]-[[User_talk:Bubblegum\|<span style="color:#BF7FFF">talk</span>]]\|[[Special:Contributions/Bubblegum\|<span style="color:#FF7FFF">contribs</span>]]</span> <span style="font-family:serif">18:40, 9 December 2020 (UTC)</span>

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	[[User:ProphetZarquon\|ProphetZarquon]] ([[User talk:ProphetZarquon\|talk]]) 23:08, 8 December 2020 (UTC)		[[User:ProphetZarquon\|ProphetZarquon]] ([[User talk:ProphetZarquon\|talk]]) 23:08, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
	:The overlap in case of covid is bigger than in many others. -- [[User:Hkmaly\|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly\|talk]]) 00:32, 9 December 2020 (UTC)		:The overlap in case of covid is bigger than in many others. -- [[User:Hkmaly\|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly\|talk]]) 00:32, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
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		+	I interpreted the feedback to be catching COVID, showing that you weren't cautious enough, but I am afraid that he is being optimistic about only being able to get it once. It's likely that you are resistant for a while after an infection, but some people have had it twice. Both the average duration of resistance and the effects of repeated infections are unknown to me, and I don't know how they could be known by anyone at this point. Hopefully we luck out, and/or get good vaccines soon. [[User:BlakeFelix\|BlakeFelix]] ([[User talk:BlakeFelix\|talk]]) 03:58, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
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	You could remove the word COVID & I would still find this universally applicable to ''many'' types of precaution.		You could remove the word COVID & I would still find this universally applicable to ''many'' types of precaution.
	[[User:ProphetZarquon\|ProphetZarquon]] ([[User talk:ProphetZarquon\|talk]]) 23:08, 8 December 2020 (UTC)		[[User:ProphetZarquon\|ProphetZarquon]] ([[User talk:ProphetZarquon\|talk]]) 23:08, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
		+	:The overlap in case of covid is bigger than in many others. -- [[User:Hkmaly\|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly\|talk]]) 00:32, 9 December 2020 (UTC)