Talk:2425: mRNA Vaccine - Revision history

172.69.42.134 at 23:04, 20 March 2021

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BunsenH: fixed grouping

2021-02-21T06:06:11Z

fixed grouping

BunsenH: smart immune cells

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smart immune cells

172.69.42.93 at 17:56, 18 February 2021

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AnotherOnymous: Construction Crew B

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Construction Crew B

Bubblegum at 05:52, 17 February 2021

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108.162.215.244 at 18:18, 16 February 2021

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172.69.54.92 at 12:37, 16 February 2021

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Elektrizikekswerk at 10:42, 16 February 2021

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162.158.238.238 at 08:56, 16 February 2021

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	Anyone who thinks that immune cells can't think or directly communicate hasn't watched enough Star Trek. :-) [[User:BunsenH\|BunsenH]] ([[User talk:BunsenH\|talk]]) 06:05, 21 February 2021 (UTC)		Anyone who thinks that immune cells can't think or directly communicate hasn't watched enough Star Trek. :-) [[User:BunsenH\|BunsenH]] ([[User talk:BunsenH\|talk]]) 06:05, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
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		+	It isn't scientifically correct to say the current vaccines are 100% effective against death (unless you are "rounding off" to 100, which is not how people will read it). To know that exact number, we would have to observe every single person now and in the future and note that no one ever dies after being vaccinated. This would need to include extremely thorough and precise testing for deaths that are most likely currently unrecognized as being due to COVID, since one missed case in a million changes your number. I think the current statistics would support "well over 99% effective in preventing death," perhaps over 99.9%. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.42.134\|172.69.42.134]] 23:04, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

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 Construction Crew B strikes me as a reference to the Golgafrincham "B" Ark from the ''Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy'' series, to justify the crew being treated as expendable.
 [[User:AnotherOnymous|AnotherOnymous]] ([[User talk:AnotherOnymous|talk]]) 14:47, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
 Anyone who thinks that immune cells can't think or directly communicate hasn't watched enough Star Trek. :-) [[User:BunsenH|BunsenH]] ([[User talk:BunsenH|talk]]) 06:05, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

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	Construction Crew B strikes me as a reference to the Golgafrincham "B" Ark from the ''Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy'' series, to justify the crew being treated as expendable.		Construction Crew B strikes me as a reference to the Golgafrincham "B" Ark from the ''Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy'' series, to justify the crew being treated as expendable.
	[[User:AnotherOnymous\|AnotherOnymous]] ([[User talk:AnotherOnymous\|talk]]) 14:47, 17 February 2021 (UTC)		[[User:AnotherOnymous\|AnotherOnymous]] ([[User talk:AnotherOnymous\|talk]]) 14:47, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
		+	Anyone who thinks that immune cells can't think or directly communicate hasn't watched enough Star Trek. :-) [[User:BunsenH\|BunsenH]] ([[User talk:BunsenH\|talk]]) 06:05, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

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 ::Then she is actually part of the cellular machinery (perhaps "more torpedos! more ships!" is normal nucleus-sourced building plans, or whatever is needed to increasingly bud initially naive antibodies/antigens)
 ::By the end, probably we can say she is a Helper T-cell (Luke - or his voiced equivalent if he's been left unDroided at Uncle Lars's place because there was clearly no Escape Capsule event, etc - acted as Killer T-cell) reacting to the exhaust-port Antigen handwaviness. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.54.92|172.69.54.92]] 12:37, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
 Construction Crew B strikes me as a reference to the Golgafrincham "B" Ark from the ''Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy'' series, to justify the crew being treated as expendable.
 [[User:AnotherOnymous|AnotherOnymous]] ([[User talk:AnotherOnymous|talk]]) 14:47, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

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	::Then she is actually part of the cellular machinery (perhaps "more torpedos! more ships!" is normal nucleus-sourced building plans, or whatever is needed to increasingly bud initially naive antibodies/antigens)		::Then she is actually part of the cellular machinery (perhaps "more torpedos! more ships!" is normal nucleus-sourced building plans, or whatever is needed to increasingly bud initially naive antibodies/antigens)
	::By the end, probably we can say she is a Helper T-cell (Luke - or his voiced equivalent if he's been left unDroided at Uncle Lars's place because there was clearly no Escape Capsule event, etc - acted as Killer T-cell) reacting to the exhaust-port Antigen handwaviness. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.54.92\|172.69.54.92]] 12:37, 16 February 2021 (UTC)		::By the end, probably we can say she is a Helper T-cell (Luke - or his voiced equivalent if he's been left unDroided at Uncle Lars's place because there was clearly no Escape Capsule event, etc - acted as Killer T-cell) reacting to the exhaust-port Antigen handwaviness. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.54.92\|172.69.54.92]] 12:37, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
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		+	Construction Crew B strikes me as a reference to the Golgafrincham "B" Ark from the ''Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy'' series, to justify the crew being treated as expendable.
		+	[[User:AnotherOnymous\|AnotherOnymous]] ([[User talk:AnotherOnymous\|talk]]) 14:47, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

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 Yeah I think it's a misunderstanding, not Leia ordering a target practice Death Star.
 :I definitely agree. Comic-wise, it makes no sense for a Leia who knew about the order to construct a Death Star to panic; the events of the metaphor only make sense if she wasn’t aware of it. Metaphorically, it’s not so bad either; the plans are the mRNA, and the delivery mechanism (Leia) isn’t specifically “trying” to produce viral Death Stars, it’s just passing along the information. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.215.244|108.162.215.244]] 18:18, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
 :It's no misunderstanding. They are all just doing "their job", so to speak. [[User:Elektrizikekswerk|Elektrizikekswerk]] ([[User talk:Elektrizikekswerk|talk]]) 10:42, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
 ::Leia is the 'nanolipid' courier capsule in her first role, liasing with the cell (both senses!) and handing over to whoever (not actually sure the beard is Dodonna-enough, but meh...) represents the start of the cellular machinery that will be beneficially 'fooled' into creating the training matter (here, apparently, the full capsid, which strays as an analogy) by casually handing the instruction into the constructor bits along with all instructions normally handed ''outwards'' from the nucleus.
 ::Then she is actually part of the cellular machinery (perhaps "more torpedos! more ships!" is normal nucleus-sourced building plans, or whatever is needed to increasingly bud initially naive antibodies/antigens)
 ::By the end, probably we can say she is a Helper T-cell (Luke - or his voiced equivalent if he's been left unDroided at Uncle Lars's place because there was clearly no Escape Capsule event, etc - acted as Killer T-cell) reacting to the exhaust-port Antigen handwaviness. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.54.92|172.69.54.92]] 12:37, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

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	Yeah I think it's a misunderstanding, not Leia ordering a target practice Death Star.		Yeah I think it's a misunderstanding, not Leia ordering a target practice Death Star.
	:It's no misunderstanding. They are all just doing "their job", so to speak. [[User:Elektrizikekswerk\|Elektrizikekswerk]] ([[User talk:Elektrizikekswerk\|talk]]) 10:42, 16 February 2021 (UTC)		:It's no misunderstanding. They are all just doing "their job", so to speak. [[User:Elektrizikekswerk\|Elektrizikekswerk]] ([[User talk:Elektrizikekswerk\|talk]]) 10:42, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
		+	::Leia is the 'nanolipid' courier capsule in her first role, liasing with the cell (both senses!) and handing over to whoever (not actually sure the beard is Dodonna-enough, but meh...) represents the start of the cellular machinery that will be beneficially 'fooled' into creating the training matter (here, apparently, the full capsid, which strays as an analogy) by casually handing the instruction into the constructor bits along with all instructions normally handed ''outwards'' from the nucleus.
		+	::Then she is actually part of the cellular machinery (perhaps "more torpedos! more ships!" is normal nucleus-sourced building plans, or whatever is needed to increasingly bud initially naive antibodies/antigens)
		+	::By the end, probably we can say she is a Helper T-cell (Luke - or his voiced equivalent if he's been left unDroided at Uncle Lars's place because there was clearly no Escape Capsule event, etc - acted as Killer T-cell) reacting to the exhaust-port Antigen handwaviness. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.54.92\|172.69.54.92]] 12:37, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

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	Yeah I think it's a misunderstanding, not Leia ordering a target practice Death Star.		Yeah I think it's a misunderstanding, not Leia ordering a target practice Death Star.
		+	:It's no misunderstanding. They are all just doing "their job", so to speak. [[User:Elektrizikekswerk\|Elektrizikekswerk]] ([[User talk:Elektrizikekswerk\|talk]]) 10:42, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

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	I have a weird feeling when Princess Leia provided the Death Star plan to the beard guy, I think there's (jokingly) a misunderstanding - Princess Leia simply gives the beard guy the Death Star plan, without actually ordering to build one - But eventually they built a Death Star and triggered the earth's defense system, that's why the Death Star constructor team member is so confused.		I have a weird feeling when Princess Leia provided the Death Star plan to the beard guy, I think there's (jokingly) a misunderstanding - Princess Leia simply gives the beard guy the Death Star plan, without actually ordering to build one - But eventually they built a Death Star and triggered the earth's defense system, that's why the Death Star constructor team member is so confused.
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		+	Yeah I think it's a misunderstanding, not Leia ordering a target practice Death Star.