Talk:2427: Perseverance Microphones - Revision history

162.158.155.132: Screaming all the way down appears authentic. :-)

2021-02-23T09:57:36Z

Screaming all the way down appears authentic. :-)

WhiteDragon: grammar

2021-02-22T16:36:00Z

grammar

WhiteDragon: fix typo

2021-02-22T16:35:00Z

fix typo

WhiteDragon: link to external info

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link to external info

WhiteDragon: link to external info

2021-02-22T16:30:49Z

link to external info

WhiteDragon: /* Has anyone actually done this yet? */ new section

2021-02-22T16:27:55Z

‎Has anyone actually done this yet?: new section

162.158.74.97 at 11:35, 22 February 2021

2021-02-22T11:35:17Z

141.101.98.36 at 16:14, 21 February 2021

2021-02-21T16:14:48Z

Stevage: return meanings?

2021-02-21T09:22:31Z

return meanings?

Stevage: screaming

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screaming

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 None of the explanations for screaming look very believable to me, yet we made up a lot of them.  There are other explanations where, if you have the relevant experience, it's very obvious that the explainer made their explanation up.  I wonder if it would be good to have a way to indicate in-article that a part of the joke didn't actually strike home for any of the editors so far, and there might be a domain of expertise missing in the authorship. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.63.196|162.158.63.196]] 21:29, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
 :Yeah, I don't think the electric guitar/feedback explanation is right. "Squealing" or "squawking" are the normal terms, not screaming. I read the title text as being analogous to someone screaming on a roller coaster. This would be the rover's first ever descent, it would be scary, it would scream. [[User:Stevage|Stevage]] ([[User talk:Stevage|talk]]) 09:21, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
 "The round-trip communication delay significantly exceeds" ... The descend took 7 minutes, the delay was 11 minutes (would be 22 in both directions). Not THAT much exceeding ... of course, not usable for steering. -- [[User:Hkmaly|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly|talk]]) 01:27, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

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−	I was surprised to find that the discussion didn't include any links to any actual techno fans have made using the audio from the rover. --[[User:WhiteDragon\|WhiteDragon]] ([[User talk:WhiteDragon\|talk]]) 16:30, 22 February 2021 (UTC)	+	I was surprised to find that the discussion didn't include any links to any actual techno music that fans have made using the audio from the rover. --[[User:WhiteDragon\|WhiteDragon]] ([[User talk:WhiteDragon\|talk]]) 16:30, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

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-Here's some more information about [https://mars.nasa.gov/mars2020/spacecraft/rover/microphones/ Perserverance's Microphones] and here is a link to [https://mars.nasa.gov/mars2020/participate/sounds/some of the sound recordings] that are available. --[[User:WhiteDragon|WhiteDragon]] ([[User talk:WhiteDragon|talk]]) 16:30, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
+Here's some more information about [https://mars.nasa.gov/mars2020/spacecraft/rover/microphones/ Perserverance's Microphones] and here is a link to [https://mars.nasa.gov/mars2020/participate/sounds/ some of the sound recordings] that are available. --[[User:WhiteDragon|WhiteDragon]] ([[User talk:WhiteDragon|talk]]) 16:30, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
 == Has anyone actually done this yet? ==
 I was surprised to find that the discussion didn't include any links to any actual techno fans have made using the audio from the rover. --[[User:WhiteDragon|WhiteDragon]] ([[User talk:WhiteDragon|talk]]) 16:30, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

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-Here's some more information about [https://mars.nasa.gov/mars2020/spacecraft/rover/microphones/ Perserverance's Microphones] --[[User:WhiteDragon|WhiteDragon]] ([[User talk:WhiteDragon|talk]]) 16:30, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
+Here's some more information about [https://mars.nasa.gov/mars2020/spacecraft/rover/microphones/ Perserverance's Microphones] and here is a link to [https://mars.nasa.gov/mars2020/participate/sounds/some of the sound recordings] that are available. --[[User:WhiteDragon|WhiteDragon]] ([[User talk:WhiteDragon|talk]]) 16:30, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
 == Has anyone actually done this yet? ==
 I was surprised to find that the discussion didn't include any links to any actual techno fans have made using the audio from the rover. --[[User:WhiteDragon|WhiteDragon]] ([[User talk:WhiteDragon|talk]]) 16:30, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

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 == Has anyone actually done this yet? ==
-I was surprised to find that the discussion didn't include any links to any actual techno fans have made using the audio from the rover.
+I was surprised to find that the discussion didn't include any links to any actual techno fans have made using the audio from the rover. --[[User:WhiteDragon|WhiteDragon]] ([[User talk:WhiteDragon|talk]]) 16:30, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

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	The intro refers to a play on words on "sample" and "return". Now, "sample" is covered (a specimen of soil/rock vs a short clip of music). What are the two meanings of "return"? [[User:Stevage\|Stevage]] ([[User talk:Stevage\|talk]]) 09:22, 21 February 2021 (UTC)		The intro refers to a play on words on "sample" and "return". Now, "sample" is covered (a specimen of soil/rock vs a short clip of music). What are the two meanings of "return"? [[User:Stevage\|Stevage]] ([[User talk:Stevage\|talk]]) 09:22, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
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	"The round-trip communication delay significantly exceeds" ... The descend took 7 minutes, the delay was 11 minutes (would be 22 in both directions). Not THAT much exceeding ... of course, not usable for steering. -- [[User:Hkmaly\|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly\|talk]]) 01:27, 21 February 2021 (UTC)		"The round-trip communication delay significantly exceeds" ... The descend took 7 minutes, the delay was 11 minutes (would be 22 in both directions). Not THAT much exceeding ... of course, not usable for steering. -- [[User:Hkmaly\|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly\|talk]]) 01:27, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
		+	:If it takes three times the time to react to something than the whole duration of the something one might wish to react to, I say that's significantly exceeding. (More so given it's probably the later minutes or even the last few seconds where intervention might have been most needed. Though wasn't.)
		+	:It also makes you wonder if manned descents will ever be as with Armstrong in the Eagle or just "spam in a can" where the human payload is told to stay hands off whatever controls they ''think'' they can use. I really doubt (unlike in Ad Astra) it'll ever be more practical to have a piloted entry. Not in a tail-first-with-suicide-burn landing, anyway. A 'descent-plane' maybe, with Shuttle-like glider/semi-glider landing, but even then the Russians had a 100% record (one of one!) landing Buran without a pilot, and martian flight is obviously a trickier thing to train for. (Maybe design for... Ingenuity is yet to do its own thing for real..) [[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.36\|141.101.98.36]] 16:14, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

	The intro refers to a play on words on "sample" and "return". Now, "sample" is covered (a specimen of soil/rock vs a short clip of music). What are the two meanings of "return"? [[User:Stevage\|Stevage]] ([[User talk:Stevage\|talk]]) 09:22, 21 February 2021 (UTC)		The intro refers to a play on words on "sample" and "return". Now, "sample" is covered (a specimen of soil/rock vs a short clip of music). What are the two meanings of "return"? [[User:Stevage\|Stevage]] ([[User talk:Stevage\|talk]]) 09:22, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

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	"The round-trip communication delay significantly exceeds" ... The descend took 7 minutes, the delay was 11 minutes (would be 22 in both directions). Not THAT much exceeding ... of course, not usable for steering. -- [[User:Hkmaly\|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly\|talk]]) 01:27, 21 February 2021 (UTC)		"The round-trip communication delay significantly exceeds" ... The descend took 7 minutes, the delay was 11 minutes (would be 22 in both directions). Not THAT much exceeding ... of course, not usable for steering. -- [[User:Hkmaly\|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly\|talk]]) 01:27, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
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		+	The intro refers to a play on words on "sample" and "return". Now, "sample" is covered (a specimen of soil/rock vs a short clip of music). What are the two meanings of "return"? [[User:Stevage\|Stevage]] ([[User talk:Stevage\|talk]]) 09:22, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

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	None of the explanations for screaming look very believable to me, yet we made up a lot of them. There are other explanations where, if you have the relevant experience, it's very obvious that the explainer made their explanation up. I wonder if it would be good to have a way to indicate in-article that a part of the joke didn't actually strike home for any of the editors so far, and there might be a domain of expertise missing in the authorship. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.63.196\|162.158.63.196]] 21:29, 20 February 2021 (UTC)		None of the explanations for screaming look very believable to me, yet we made up a lot of them. There are other explanations where, if you have the relevant experience, it's very obvious that the explainer made their explanation up. I wonder if it would be good to have a way to indicate in-article that a part of the joke didn't actually strike home for any of the editors so far, and there might be a domain of expertise missing in the authorship. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.63.196\|162.158.63.196]] 21:29, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
		+	:Yeah, I don't think the electric guitar/feedback explanation is right. "Squealing" or "squawking" are the normal terms, not screaming. I read the title text as being analogous to someone screaming on a roller coaster. This would be the rover's first ever descent, it would be scary, it would scream. [[User:Stevage\|Stevage]] ([[User talk:Stevage\|talk]]) 09:21, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

	"The round-trip communication delay significantly exceeds" ... The descend took 7 minutes, the delay was 11 minutes (would be 22 in both directions). Not THAT much exceeding ... of course, not usable for steering. -- [[User:Hkmaly\|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly\|talk]]) 01:27, 21 February 2021 (UTC)		"The round-trip communication delay significantly exceeds" ... The descend took 7 minutes, the delay was 11 minutes (would be 22 in both directions). Not THAT much exceeding ... of course, not usable for steering. -- [[User:Hkmaly\|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly\|talk]]) 01:27, 21 February 2021 (UTC)