Talk:2452: Aviation Firsts - Revision history

Nutster: Grammar fix.

2022-09-23T17:26:25Z

Grammar fix.

Nutster: Answer the first question.

2022-09-23T17:24:47Z

Answer the first question.

Aepokk: oops

2021-05-18T01:32:22Z

oops

162.158.62.251 at 01:31, 18 May 2021

2021-05-18T01:31:41Z

Baldrickk at 09:41, 22 April 2021

2021-04-22T09:41:56Z

108.162.216.12: added comment

2021-04-21T13:21:28Z

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Elektrizikekswerk at 08:33, 21 April 2021

2021-04-21T08:33:23Z

Barmar at 03:51, 21 April 2021

2021-04-21T03:51:30Z

Nutster: Fix formatting error.

2021-04-21T02:07:20Z

Fix formatting error.

Nutster: Does ALL deserve to be in that sentence?

2021-04-21T02:06:19Z

Does ALL deserve to be in that sentence?

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 Someone got into editing just as I thought I'd start, so I'll leave it in case there's population of explanation afoot. But I'm waiting for both ''uncontrolled'' powered flight (I don't mean retrothrusted landing procedure) and controlled ''unpowered'' flight (ditto, not for parachute descents, at least until they make the subsonic ones full parasails). [[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.192|141.101.98.192]] 01:56, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
-: Uncontrolled powered flight has cause many plane crashes over the years.  Controlled unpowered flight is how every glider, including the Space Shuttles, fly and land.  [[User:Nutster|Nutster]] ([[User talk:Nutster|talk]]) 17:24, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
+: Uncontrolled powered flight has caused many plane crashes over the years.  Controlled unpowered flight is how every glider, including the Space Shuttles when returning from space, "fly" and land.  [[User:Nutster|Nutster]] ([[User talk:Nutster|talk]]) 17:24, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

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	Someone got into editing just as I thought I'd start, so I'll leave it in case there's population of explanation afoot. But I'm waiting for both ''uncontrolled'' powered flight (I don't mean retrothrusted landing procedure) and controlled ''unpowered'' flight (ditto, not for parachute descents, at least until they make the subsonic ones full parasails). [[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.192\|141.101.98.192]] 01:56, 20 April 2021 (UTC)		Someone got into editing just as I thought I'd start, so I'll leave it in case there's population of explanation afoot. But I'm waiting for both ''uncontrolled'' powered flight (I don't mean retrothrusted landing procedure) and controlled ''unpowered'' flight (ditto, not for parachute descents, at least until they make the subsonic ones full parasails). [[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.192\|141.101.98.192]] 01:56, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
		+	: Uncontrolled powered flight has cause many plane crashes over the years. Controlled unpowered flight is how every glider, including the Space Shuttles, fly and land. [[User:Nutster\|Nutster]] ([[User talk:Nutster\|talk]]) 17:24, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

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	Adding a table to organize everything might be a good idea because right now the description is a bit confusing. --[[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.12\|108.162.216.12]] 13:21, 21 April 2021 (UTC)		Adding a table to organize everything might be a good idea because right now the description is a bit confusing. --[[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.12\|108.162.216.12]] 13:21, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

−	What does a "loop" mean in this context? Does it just refer to a satellite orbit? A definition on the page would help, I think. [[~~Special~~:~~Contributions/162.158.62.251~~\|~~162.158.62.251~~]] 01:31, 18 May 2021 (UTC)	+	What does a "loop" mean in this context? Does it just refer to a satellite orbit? A definition on the page would help, I think. [[User:Aepokk\|Aepokk]] ([[User talk:Aepokk\|talk]]) 01:32, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

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	Adding a table to organize everything might be a good idea because right now the description is a bit confusing. --[[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.12\|108.162.216.12]] 13:21, 21 April 2021 (UTC)		Adding a table to organize everything might be a good idea because right now the description is a bit confusing. --[[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.12\|108.162.216.12]] 13:21, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
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		+	What does a "loop" mean in this context? Does it just refer to a satellite orbit? A definition on the page would help, I think. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.62.251\|162.158.62.251]] 01:31, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

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	Hmmm... Reading about how the explanation says "the notion of them [skeletal remains of Amelia Earhart] somehow ending up on the surface of Mars is practically impossible outside the remit of certain conspiracy theories." I immediately had to think on https://what-if.xkcd.com/53/ and https://what-if.xkcd.com/54/ [[User:Elektrizikekswerk\|Elektrizikekswerk]] ([[User talk:Elektrizikekswerk\|talk]]) 08:33, 21 April 2021 (UTC)		Hmmm... Reading about how the explanation says "the notion of them [skeletal remains of Amelia Earhart] somehow ending up on the surface of Mars is practically impossible outside the remit of certain conspiracy theories." I immediately had to think on https://what-if.xkcd.com/53/ and https://what-if.xkcd.com/54/ [[User:Elektrizikekswerk\|Elektrizikekswerk]] ([[User talk:Elektrizikekswerk\|talk]]) 08:33, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
		+	:Thinking about Amelia - her remains were supposedly found, dismissed, and lost. So really, there should be a tick on the Earth side there too [[User:Baldrickk\|Baldrickk]] ([[User talk:Baldrickk\|talk]]) 09:41, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

	Adding a table to organize everything might be a good idea because right now the description is a bit confusing. --[[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.12\|108.162.216.12]] 13:21, 21 April 2021 (UTC)		Adding a table to organize everything might be a good idea because right now the description is a bit confusing. --[[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.12\|108.162.216.12]] 13:21, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

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	Hmmm... Reading about how the explanation says "the notion of them [skeletal remains of Amelia Earhart] somehow ending up on the surface of Mars is practically impossible outside the remit of certain conspiracy theories." I immediately had to think on https://what-if.xkcd.com/53/ and https://what-if.xkcd.com/54/ [[User:Elektrizikekswerk\|Elektrizikekswerk]] ([[User talk:Elektrizikekswerk\|talk]]) 08:33, 21 April 2021 (UTC)		Hmmm... Reading about how the explanation says "the notion of them [skeletal remains of Amelia Earhart] somehow ending up on the surface of Mars is practically impossible outside the remit of certain conspiracy theories." I immediately had to think on https://what-if.xkcd.com/53/ and https://what-if.xkcd.com/54/ [[User:Elektrizikekswerk\|Elektrizikekswerk]] ([[User talk:Elektrizikekswerk\|talk]]) 08:33, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
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		+	Adding a table to organize everything might be a good idea because right now the description is a bit confusing. --[[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.12\|108.162.216.12]] 13:21, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

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	''Flight, Landing and Controlled Landing were variously achieved by some or all of the prior landers, depending upon your definition of flight.'' I would argue that not '''all''' landers achieved a controlled landing. I recall a couple that did not do enough aerobraking and ended up doing too much lithobraking instead and were not functional afterwards. Should that '''all''' remain in the sentence? [[User:Nutster\|Nutster]] ([[User talk:Nutster\|talk]]) 02:06, 21 April 2021 (UTC)		''Flight, Landing and Controlled Landing were variously achieved by some or all of the prior landers, depending upon your definition of flight.'' I would argue that not '''all''' landers achieved a controlled landing. I recall a couple that did not do enough aerobraking and ended up doing too much lithobraking instead and were not functional afterwards. Should that '''all''' remain in the sentence? [[User:Nutster\|Nutster]] ([[User talk:Nutster\|talk]]) 02:06, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
	:"variously achieved by some or all" means that different landers achieved different subsets. The ones you recall achieved flight (from Earth to Mars) and (crash) landing, but not controlled landing. [[User:Barmar\|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar\|talk]]) 03:51, 21 April 2021 (UTC)		:"variously achieved by some or all" means that different landers achieved different subsets. The ones you recall achieved flight (from Earth to Mars) and (crash) landing, but not controlled landing. [[User:Barmar\|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar\|talk]]) 03:51, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
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		+	Hmmm... Reading about how the explanation says "the notion of them [skeletal remains of Amelia Earhart] somehow ending up on the surface of Mars is practically impossible outside the remit of certain conspiracy theories." I immediately had to think on https://what-if.xkcd.com/53/ and https://what-if.xkcd.com/54/ [[User:Elektrizikekswerk\|Elektrizikekswerk]] ([[User talk:Elektrizikekswerk\|talk]]) 08:33, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

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	''Flight, Landing and Controlled Landing were variously achieved by some or all of the prior landers, depending upon your definition of flight.'' I would argue that not '''all''' landers achieved a controlled landing. I recall a couple that did not do enough aerobraking and ended up doing too much lithobraking instead and were not functional afterwards. Should that '''all''' remain in the sentence? [[User:Nutster\|Nutster]] ([[User talk:Nutster\|talk]]) 02:06, 21 April 2021 (UTC)		''Flight, Landing and Controlled Landing were variously achieved by some or all of the prior landers, depending upon your definition of flight.'' I would argue that not '''all''' landers achieved a controlled landing. I recall a couple that did not do enough aerobraking and ended up doing too much lithobraking instead and were not functional afterwards. Should that '''all''' remain in the sentence? [[User:Nutster\|Nutster]] ([[User talk:Nutster\|talk]]) 02:06, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
		+	:"variously achieved by some or all" means that different landers achieved different subsets. The ones you recall achieved flight (from Earth to Mars) and (crash) landing, but not controlled landing. [[User:Barmar\|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar\|talk]]) 03:51, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

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	In my new favorite sci-fi series, DB Cooper, who got to know the local bigfoot tribe as a kid, and who is called in adulthood Falls-From-Sky, moves to the planet the sasquatch came from to live with the Starfoot and grow garlic with his grandson Charlie. Jerry Boyd's Bob & Nikki series. And their story is a subplot.[[User:Seebert\|Seebert]] ([[User talk:Seebert\|talk]]) 12:57, 20 April 2021 (UTC)		In my new favorite sci-fi series, DB Cooper, who got to know the local bigfoot tribe as a kid, and who is called in adulthood Falls-From-Sky, moves to the planet the sasquatch came from to live with the Starfoot and grow garlic with his grandson Charlie. Jerry Boyd's Bob & Nikki series. And their story is a subplot.[[User:Seebert\|Seebert]] ([[User talk:Seebert\|talk]]) 12:57, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

−	''Flight, Landing and Controlled Landing were variously achieved by some or all of the prior landers, depending upon your definition of flight.'' I would argue that not '''all''' landers achieved a controlled landing. I recall a couple that did not do enough aerobraking and ended up doing too much lithobraking instead and were not functional afterwards. Should that '''all'' remain in the sentence? [[User:Nutster\|Nutster]] ([[User talk:Nutster\|talk]]) 02:06, 21 April 2021 (UTC)	+	''Flight, Landing and Controlled Landing were variously achieved by some or all of the prior landers, depending upon your definition of flight.'' I would argue that not '''all''' landers achieved a controlled landing. I recall a couple that did not do enough aerobraking and ended up doing too much lithobraking instead and were not functional afterwards. Should that '''all''' remain in the sentence? [[User:Nutster\|Nutster]] ([[User talk:Nutster\|talk]]) 02:06, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

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	In my new favorite sci-fi series, DB Cooper, who got to know the local bigfoot tribe as a kid, and who is called in adulthood Falls-From-Sky, moves to the planet the sasquatch came from to live with the Starfoot and grow garlic with his grandson Charlie. Jerry Boyd's Bob & Nikki series. And their story is a subplot.[[User:Seebert\|Seebert]] ([[User talk:Seebert\|talk]]) 12:57, 20 April 2021 (UTC)		In my new favorite sci-fi series, DB Cooper, who got to know the local bigfoot tribe as a kid, and who is called in adulthood Falls-From-Sky, moves to the planet the sasquatch came from to live with the Starfoot and grow garlic with his grandson Charlie. Jerry Boyd's Bob & Nikki series. And their story is a subplot.[[User:Seebert\|Seebert]] ([[User talk:Seebert\|talk]]) 12:57, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
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		+	''Flight, Landing and Controlled Landing were variously achieved by some or all of the prior landers, depending upon your definition of flight.'' I would argue that not '''all''' landers achieved a controlled landing. I recall a couple that did not do enough aerobraking and ended up doing too much lithobraking instead and were not functional afterwards. Should that '''all'' remain in the sentence? [[User:Nutster\|Nutster]] ([[User talk:Nutster\|talk]]) 02:06, 21 April 2021 (UTC)