Talk:2457: After the Pandemic - Revision history

172.70.38.148: Added a brief followup comment to my last one.

2021-05-04T03:37:46Z

Added a brief followup comment to my last one.

108.162.219.154: Adding a new comment. I hope I signed this right, I don't often post here.

2021-05-04T01:31:04Z

Adding a new comment. I hope I signed this right, I don't often post here.

162.158.74.67 at 11:00, 2 May 2021

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162.158.74.67 at 10:59, 2 May 2021

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Hkmaly at 01:21, 2 May 2021

2021-05-02T01:21:14Z

162.158.62.157: Keep them coming, covid or not

2021-05-01T21:10:05Z

Keep them coming, covid or not

Kynde at 20:09, 1 May 2021

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Kynde at 20:09, 1 May 2021

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Kynde at 20:08, 1 May 2021

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Shamino at 12:32, 1 May 2021

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	:::Covid or not - keep them coming Randall. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.62.157\|162.158.62.157]] 21:10, 1 May 2021 (UTC)		:::Covid or not - keep them coming Randall. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.62.157\|162.158.62.157]] 21:10, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
	:::Eh... I'm okay with these comics. To be fair, the recent comics have felt a little degraded compared to Randall's previous comics (especially when Randall's humor was more juvenile or experimental... Comics 1 to ~1700s had a LOT of soul :D). But that doesn't change the fact that Randall is still making comics I enjoy. These COVID comics are not inherently bad, and I disagree with the notion that he's destroying his audience... Though COVID is a year old by now. Talking about how much it sucks is a common occurrence, and I feel like a lot of the comics could have just gone on his blog. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.219.154\|108.162.219.154]] 01:31, 4 May 2021 (UTC)		:::Eh... I'm okay with these comics. To be fair, the recent comics have felt a little degraded compared to Randall's previous comics (especially when Randall's humor was more juvenile or experimental... Comics 1 to ~1700s had a LOT of soul :D). But that doesn't change the fact that Randall is still making comics I enjoy. These COVID comics are not inherently bad, and I disagree with the notion that he's destroying his audience... Though COVID is a year old by now. Talking about how much it sucks is a common occurrence, and I feel like a lot of the comics could have just gone on his blog. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.219.154\|108.162.219.154]] 01:31, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
		+	::::...And he JUST uploaded a non-COVID comic! Not all of his comics nowadays are COVID-related! See? ... Okay, maybe, like, half of them are. But I don't see these comics as 'tedious', at least, not yet. If there are still regular COVID comics later this year (assuming the situation hasn't changed for the worse), I think my thoughts might be a ''little'' different. But I digress. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.38.148\|172.70.38.148]] 03:37, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

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	:::I discovered the article on the cost of the common cold as a result of editing the explanation for this cartoon. Considering the huge impact colds have changed my views some. (I already figured masking for other reasons than Covid made sense, but this gave me more appreciation of the magnitude.)		:::I discovered the article on the cost of the common cold as a result of editing the explanation for this cartoon. Considering the huge impact colds have changed my views some. (I already figured masking for other reasons than Covid made sense, but this gave me more appreciation of the magnitude.)
	:::Covid or not - keep them coming Randall. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.62.157\|162.158.62.157]] 21:10, 1 May 2021 (UTC)		:::Covid or not - keep them coming Randall. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.62.157\|162.158.62.157]] 21:10, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
		+	:::Eh... I'm okay with these comics. To be fair, the recent comics have felt a little degraded compared to Randall's previous comics (especially when Randall's humor was more juvenile or experimental... Comics 1 to ~1700s had a LOT of soul :D). But that doesn't change the fact that Randall is still making comics I enjoy. These COVID comics are not inherently bad, and I disagree with the notion that he's destroying his audience... Though COVID is a year old by now. Talking about how much it sucks is a common occurrence, and I feel like a lot of the comics could have just gone on his blog. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.219.154\|108.162.219.154]] 01:31, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

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 "[...] wear a mask when they are sick, as is common in many East Asian countries" - This true? Prior to the pandemic, E.Asian students (my most frequent contact with this ethnic group, who are not actual nth-generation habituated/assimilated and so never had the then vestigial mask-wearing tendency) could be observed wearing masks around the nearby University city mostly in September, dropping off in frequency once they seemed to realise that the air was not anything as ''polluted'' as back home, not for fear of disease. Or so I gathered from what conversations I heard about it. (The most egregious example of this was witnessing an individual leaning against an alley-wall, mask shifted away from his mouth so he could 'safely' ''smoke''... Avoiding the barely notable car-fumes in order to directly inhale death-stick fumes.) Now, I've not had enough post-outbreak experience of such imported attitudes to masks, but I still feel that those who are not openly sick ''of'' masks, in the open air, are probably wearing them regardless of personal illness. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.107.78|141.101.107.78]] 02:03, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
-It's just they're terribly comfortable. I think everyone will be wearing them in the future.[[Special:Contributions/162.158.74.67|162.158.74.67]] 10:59, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
+"It's just they're terribly comfortable. I think everyone will be wearing them in the future."[[Special:Contributions/162.158.74.67|162.158.74.67]] 10:59, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
 ;Enough with the COVID comics

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	"[...] wear a mask when they are sick, as is common in many East Asian countries" - This true? Prior to the pandemic, E.Asian students (my most frequent contact with this ethnic group, who are not actual nth-generation habituated/assimilated and so never had the then vestigial mask-wearing tendency) could be observed wearing masks around the nearby University city mostly in September, dropping off in frequency once they seemed to realise that the air was not anything as ''polluted'' as back home, not for fear of disease. Or so I gathered from what conversations I heard about it. (The most egregious example of this was witnessing an individual leaning against an alley-wall, mask shifted away from his mouth so he could 'safely' ''smoke''... Avoiding the barely notable car-fumes in order to directly inhale death-stick fumes.) Now, I've not had enough post-outbreak experience of such imported attitudes to masks, but I still feel that those who are not openly sick ''of'' masks, in the open air, are probably wearing them regardless of personal illness. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.107.78\|141.101.107.78]] 02:03, 1 May 2021 (UTC)		"[...] wear a mask when they are sick, as is common in many East Asian countries" - This true? Prior to the pandemic, E.Asian students (my most frequent contact with this ethnic group, who are not actual nth-generation habituated/assimilated and so never had the then vestigial mask-wearing tendency) could be observed wearing masks around the nearby University city mostly in September, dropping off in frequency once they seemed to realise that the air was not anything as ''polluted'' as back home, not for fear of disease. Or so I gathered from what conversations I heard about it. (The most egregious example of this was witnessing an individual leaning against an alley-wall, mask shifted away from his mouth so he could 'safely' ''smoke''... Avoiding the barely notable car-fumes in order to directly inhale death-stick fumes.) Now, I've not had enough post-outbreak experience of such imported attitudes to masks, but I still feel that those who are not openly sick ''of'' masks, in the open air, are probably wearing them regardless of personal illness. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.107.78\|141.101.107.78]] 02:03, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

		+	It's just they're terribly comfortable. I think everyone will be wearing them in the future.[[Special:Contributions/162.158.74.67\|162.158.74.67]] 10:59, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

	;Enough with the COVID comics		;Enough with the COVID comics

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 :[[User:ProphetZarquon|ProphetZarquon]] ([[User talk:ProphetZarquon|talk]]) 19:25, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
 :Mask wearing was already super common in Asia before the pandemic because of this. I'm hoping it gets more common here in the US too [[User:Opalmagpie|Opalmagpie]] ([[User talk:Opalmagpie|talk]]) 20:53, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
 @Randall, we get it, you worry about COVID. Really, we get it.
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 Maybe another thing that will become common is self-quarantining when you're sick. You don't need to wear a mask if you don't go out. And now that we've learned that it's possible to work from home in many professions, you don't need to go into the office when you're contagious. [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 21:47, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
 : Bingo!  Back when I was a kid, in the 70's, it was understood that when you're sick, you stay home and get rest.  Today, everybody thinks it's just fine to take some over-the-counter pill to relieve the symptoms and go on with your life, which will slow your recovery and infect other people.  Maybe now, we can get back to some common sense?  Probably not, but one can hope. [[User:Shamino|Shamino]] ([[User talk:Shamino|talk]]) 12:32, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
 "[...] wear a mask when they are sick, as is common in many East Asian countries" - This true? Prior to the pandemic, E.Asian students (my most frequent contact with this ethnic group, who are not actual nth-generation habituated/assimilated and so never had the then vestigial mask-wearing tendency) could be observed wearing masks around the nearby University city mostly in September, dropping off in frequency once they seemed to realise that the air was not anything as ''polluted'' as back home, not for fear of disease. Or so I gathered from what conversations I heard about it. (The most egregious example of this was witnessing an individual leaning against an alley-wall, mask shifted away from his mouth so he could 'safely' ''smoke''... Avoiding the barely notable car-fumes in order to directly inhale death-stick fumes.) Now, I've not had enough post-outbreak experience of such imported attitudes to masks, but I still feel that those who are not openly sick ''of'' masks, in the open air, are probably wearing them regardless of personal illness. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.107.78|141.101.107.78]] 02:03, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

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	::: To be even fairer, it's not the first time that XKCD has serious comics. The Hilary endorsement is an obvious example, but a lot of comics about cancer aren't meant to be funny. It was a way for Randall to cope with his personal life, and because his mind wasn't able to think about another subject at the time. Covid isn't (I hope) a personal issue like cancer was, but it's still a stressful problem.[[Special:Contributions/141.101.107.164\|141.101.107.164]] 12:09, 1 May 2021 (UTC)		::: To be even fairer, it's not the first time that XKCD has serious comics. The Hilary endorsement is an obvious example, but a lot of comics about cancer aren't meant to be funny. It was a way for Randall to cope with his personal life, and because his mind wasn't able to think about another subject at the time. Covid isn't (I hope) a personal issue like cancer was, but it's still a stressful problem.[[Special:Contributions/141.101.107.164\|141.101.107.164]] 12:09, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
	::::As this is the biggest thing to hit the world since the end of WW2, and has lasted for more than a year, still causing major changed to our lives, and still being a big problem in some countries (India at present for instance), I see no problem in Randall continuing to make comics about it. If his comics are funny or unfunny can always be debated. But it is a serious issue with mask wearing, do it even help etc. And as said above my comic, Randall is not always making funny comics. Some serious comics are interspersed with jokes, like [[Earth Temperature Timeline]], but the comic it self was not funny, but scary. Here he is giving us advice and letting us know what he thinks and hopes. Take it of leave it. And if this makes you stop following xkcd, then that is just your loss ;-) --[[User:Kynde\|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde\|talk]]) 20:08, 1 May 2021 (UTC)		::::As this is the biggest thing to hit the world since the end of WW2, and has lasted for more than a year, still causing major changed to our lives, and still being a big problem in some countries (India at present for instance), I see no problem in Randall continuing to make comics about it. If his comics are funny or unfunny can always be debated. But it is a serious issue with mask wearing, do it even help etc. And as said above my comic, Randall is not always making funny comics. Some serious comics are interspersed with jokes, like [[Earth Temperature Timeline]], but the comic it self was not funny, but scary. Here he is giving us advice and letting us know what he thinks and hopes. Take it of leave it. And if this makes you stop following xkcd, then that is just your loss ;-) --[[User:Kynde\|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde\|talk]]) 20:08, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
		+	:::Comics don't have to be funny. XKCD is often educational or thought provoking (e.g. visualizing data like ocean depths, raising awareness of obscure topics, etc.) Of course entertaining as well helps.
		+	:::I discovered the article on the cost of the common cold as a result of editing the explanation for this cartoon. Considering the huge impact colds have changed my views some. (I already figured masking for other reasons than Covid made sense, but this gave me more appreciation of the magnitude.)
		+	:::Covid or not - keep them coming Randall. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.62.157\|162.158.62.157]] 21:10, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

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 ::To be fair, the pandemic was/is a ''major'' part of our lives. I support covid-related comics '''if they're funny''', which this one doesn't seem to be. However, let's give Randall the benefit of the doubt; maybe he just had an off day. [[User:Danish|Danish]] ([[User talk:Danish|talk]]) 03:05, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
 ::: To be even fairer, it's not the first time that XKCD has serious comics. The Hilary endorsement is an obvious example, but a lot of comics about cancer aren't meant to be funny. It was a way for Randall to cope with his personal life, and because his mind wasn't *able* to think about another subject at the time. Covid isn't (I hope) a personal issue like cancer was, but it's still a stressful problem.[[Special:Contributions/141.101.107.164|141.101.107.164]] 12:09, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
-::::As this is the biggest thing to hit the world since the end of WW2, and has lasted for more than a year, still causing major changed to our lives, and still being a big problem in some countries (India at present for instance), I see no problem in Randall continuing to make comics about it. If his comics are funny or unfunny can always be debated. But it is a serious issue with mask wearing, do it even help etc. And as said above my comic, Randall is not always making funny comics. Some serious comics are interspersed with jokes, like [[Earth Temperature Timeline]], but the comic it self was not funny, but scary. Here he is giving us advice and letting us know what he thinks and hopes. Take it of leave it. And if this makes you stop following xkcd, then you that is just your loss ;-) --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 20:08, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
+::::As this is the biggest thing to hit the world since the end of WW2, and has lasted for more than a year, still causing major changed to our lives, and still being a big problem in some countries (India at present for instance), I see no problem in Randall continuing to make comics about it. If his comics are funny or unfunny can always be debated. But it is a serious issue with mask wearing, do it even help etc. And as said above my comic, Randall is not always making funny comics. Some serious comics are interspersed with jokes, like [[Earth Temperature Timeline]], but the comic it self was not funny, but scary. Here he is giving us advice and letting us know what he thinks and hopes. Take it of leave it. And if this makes you stop following xkcd, then that is just your loss ;-) --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 20:08, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

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	Maybe another thing that will become common is self-quarantining when you're sick. You don't need to wear a mask if you don't go out. And now that we've learned that it's possible to work from home in many professions, you don't need to go into the office when you're contagious. [[User:Barmar\|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar\|talk]]) 21:47, 30 April 2021 (UTC)		Maybe another thing that will become common is self-quarantining when you're sick. You don't need to wear a mask if you don't go out. And now that we've learned that it's possible to work from home in many professions, you don't need to go into the office when you're contagious. [[User:Barmar\|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar\|talk]]) 21:47, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
		+	: Bingo! Back when I was a kid, in the 70's, it was understood that when you're sick, you stay home and get rest. Today, everybody thinks it's just fine to take some over-the-counter pill to relieve the symptoms and go on with your life, which will slow your recovery and infect other people. Maybe now, we can get back to some common sense? Probably not, but one can hope. [[User:Shamino\|Shamino]] ([[User talk:Shamino\|talk]]) 12:32, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

	"[...] wear a mask when they are sick, as is common in many East Asian countries" - This true? Prior to the pandemic, E.Asian students (my most frequent contact with this ethnic group, who are not actual nth-generation habituated/assimilated and so never had the then vestigial mask-wearing tendency) could be observed wearing masks around the nearby University city mostly in September, dropping off in frequency once they seemed to realise that the air was not anything as ''polluted'' as back home, not for fear of disease. Or so I gathered from what conversations I heard about it. (The most egregious example of this was witnessing an individual leaning against an alley-wall, mask shifted away from his mouth so he could 'safely' ''smoke''... Avoiding the barely notable car-fumes in order to directly inhale death-stick fumes.) Now, I've not had enough post-outbreak experience of such imported attitudes to masks, but I still feel that those who are not openly sick ''of'' masks, in the open air, are probably wearing them regardless of personal illness. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.107.78\|141.101.107.78]] 02:03, 1 May 2021 (UTC)		"[...] wear a mask when they are sick, as is common in many East Asian countries" - This true? Prior to the pandemic, E.Asian students (my most frequent contact with this ethnic group, who are not actual nth-generation habituated/assimilated and so never had the then vestigial mask-wearing tendency) could be observed wearing masks around the nearby University city mostly in September, dropping off in frequency once they seemed to realise that the air was not anything as ''polluted'' as back home, not for fear of disease. Or so I gathered from what conversations I heard about it. (The most egregious example of this was witnessing an individual leaning against an alley-wall, mask shifted away from his mouth so he could 'safely' ''smoke''... Avoiding the barely notable car-fumes in order to directly inhale death-stick fumes.) Now, I've not had enough post-outbreak experience of such imported attitudes to masks, but I still feel that those who are not openly sick ''of'' masks, in the open air, are probably wearing them regardless of personal illness. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.107.78\|141.101.107.78]] 02:03, 1 May 2021 (UTC)