Talk:2468: Inheritance - Revision history

MeZimm at 16:59, 7 March 2025

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172.70.110.226 at 18:08, 8 July 2021

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172.69.69.74 at 14:51, 28 May 2021

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162.158.255.174: Remember the Wiegers

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Remember the Wiegers

MAP: Added note about Chess (and possibly other games) using a game-to-game point system, where you can accumulate large numbers, but not inherit them.

2021-05-27T22:07:06Z

Added note about Chess (and possibly other games) using a game-to-game point system, where you can accumulate large numbers, but not inherit them.

141.101.99.161 at 15:27, 27 May 2021

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108.162.219.102 at 11:38, 27 May 2021

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141.101.105.134 at 09:00, 27 May 2021

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Kynde at 07:02, 27 May 2021

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Kynde at 07:02, 27 May 2021

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 Might be related to the rise of legacy board games, in which outcomes of prior matches influence future games. Usually, those have a limited number of plays and they are designed such that prior winner's don't have too much of an advantage in future games. But one could imagine a game that, (if it has no limit to the number of plays), after being played for generations gives a significant advantage to whomever inherited a specific character/player role. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.94.234|162.158.94.234]] 14:21, 26 May 2021 (UTC) Tobl
-Obligatory reminder to everybody that (1) life is not a competition and (2) money is not "victory points". There are ways to cynically portray these things as such, but fully buying into this paradigm inevitably results in profound unhappiness. mezimm [[Special:Contributions/172.69.71.178|172.69.71.178]] 14:54, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
+Obligatory reminder to everybody that (1) life is not a competition and (2) money is not "victory points". There are ways to cynically portray these things as such, but fully buying into this paradigm inevitably results in profound unhappiness. [[User:MeZimm|MeZimm]] ([[User talk:MeZimm|talk]]) 14:54, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
 This one was pretty early... maybe Randall’s getting back to schedule? --[[Special:Contributions/172.68.132.119|172.68.132.119]] 15:14, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
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 I feel like this is very much a criticism of modern day (colonial) capitalism. It's both concisely stating that the disparity is absurd, that small donations from billionaires are laughable and dont change the inherent unfairness, and implies that the best way of leveling the playing field is to wiping the slate.
 :Totally agree. The whole idea of money surviving a wealthy persons death is a pyramid game. The more money that is inherited the more can someone who did nothing expect to buy from others, without they doing any thing to create physical values. Only question is when we run out of people to be at the base of the pyramid... Sadly they cannot like Cueball's playing partners decide not to play the game... --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 07:02, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
-:: Obligatory reminder to everybody that (1) life is not a competition and (2) money is not "victory points". There are ways to cynically portray these things as such, but fully buying into this paradigm inevitably results in profound unhappiness. mezimm [[Special:Contributions/172.69.69.74|172.69.69.74]] 14:51, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
+:: Obligatory reminder to everybody that (1) life is not a competition and (2) money is not "victory points". There are ways to cynically portray these things as such, but fully buying into this paradigm inevitably results in profound unhappiness. [[User:MeZimm|MeZimm]] ([[User talk:MeZimm|talk]]) 14:51, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
 Is there any chance that this is a reference to the “How We Win” speech which gained some attention last summer in regards to BLM protests? The speech uses a metaphorical game of Monopoly which is rigged for one side to explain how the US still isn’t economically fair, and I know Randall has put up the BLM banner in support. Agricola instead of Monopoly (and race not mentioned) but he might have drawn inspiration there. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.219.102|108.162.219.102]] 11:38, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

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	The explanation seems a bit bare of what examples of inherited wealth this is parodying. In the UK there's a bruhaha (in some circles, and equally a bruhaha about the other bruhaha in other circles) about historic Slavery-profits that set up now historical country estates, etc,now maintained on behalf of the nation as a public good but possibly needing contextualising. In Germany (and relatedl there are huge multinational companies that undoubtedly benefitted from Nazi work-camps or assett-confis ations that might owe a moral debt in more recent climate even though generations have passed since such things. Pretty much every culture will have such examples (and if it's not transatlantic slavery, too for the US version, it could be the treatment of native tribes/lands, starting well before; or share-croppers/dustbowl/Great Depression/poor-immigrants issues more recently, if the Agricola reference is any clue), or is it just general inheritance (and maybe Fred Trump in particular?) [[Special:Contributions/141.101.99.161\|141.101.99.161]] 15:27, 27 May 2021 (UTC)		The explanation seems a bit bare of what examples of inherited wealth this is parodying. In the UK there's a bruhaha (in some circles, and equally a bruhaha about the other bruhaha in other circles) about historic Slavery-profits that set up now historical country estates, etc,now maintained on behalf of the nation as a public good but possibly needing contextualising. In Germany (and relatedl there are huge multinational companies that undoubtedly benefitted from Nazi work-camps or assett-confis ations that might owe a moral debt in more recent climate even though generations have passed since such things. Pretty much every culture will have such examples (and if it's not transatlantic slavery, too for the US version, it could be the treatment of native tribes/lands, starting well before; or share-croppers/dustbowl/Great Depression/poor-immigrants issues more recently, if the Agricola reference is any clue), or is it just general inheritance (and maybe Fred Trump in particular?) [[Special:Contributions/141.101.99.161\|141.101.99.161]] 15:27, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
	:Don't forget the China connection with the Muslim Wiegers forced to work in concentration camps manufacturing products sold in the U.S. Who's benefiting from this now?		:Don't forget the China connection with the Muslim Wiegers forced to work in concentration camps manufacturing products sold in the U.S. Who's benefiting from this now?
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		+	Should just challenge that guy to a game of golf.

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 I feel like this is very much a criticism of modern day (colonial) capitalism. It's both concisely stating that the disparity is absurd, that small donations from billionaires are laughable and dont change the inherent unfairness, and implies that the best way of leveling the playing field is to wiping the slate.
 :Totally agree. The whole idea of money surviving a wealthy persons death is a pyramid game. The more money that is inherited the more can someone who did nothing expect to buy from others, without they doing any thing to create physical values. Only question is when we run out of people to be at the base of the pyramid... Sadly they cannot like Cueball's playing partners decide not to play the game... --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 07:02, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
 Is there any chance that this is a reference to the “How We Win” speech which gained some attention last summer in regards to BLM protests? The speech uses a metaphorical game of Monopoly which is rigged for one side to explain how the US still isn’t economically fair, and I know Randall has put up the BLM banner in support. Agricola instead of Monopoly (and race not mentioned) but he might have drawn inspiration there. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.219.102|108.162.219.102]] 11:38, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

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	The explanation seems a bit bare of what examples of inherited wealth this is parodying. In the UK there's a bruhaha (in some circles, and equally a bruhaha about the other bruhaha in other circles) about historic Slavery-profits that set up now historical country estates, etc,now maintained on behalf of the nation as a public good but possibly needing contextualising. In Germany (and relatedl there are huge multinational companies that undoubtedly benefitted from Nazi work-camps or assett-confis ations that might owe a moral debt in more recent climate even though generations have passed since such things. Pretty much every culture will have such examples (and if it's not transatlantic slavery, too for the US version, it could be the treatment of native tribes/lands, starting well before; or share-croppers/dustbowl/Great Depression/poor-immigrants issues more recently, if the Agricola reference is any clue), or is it just general inheritance (and maybe Fred Trump in particular?) [[Special:Contributions/141.101.99.161\|141.101.99.161]] 15:27, 27 May 2021 (UTC)		The explanation seems a bit bare of what examples of inherited wealth this is parodying. In the UK there's a bruhaha (in some circles, and equally a bruhaha about the other bruhaha in other circles) about historic Slavery-profits that set up now historical country estates, etc,now maintained on behalf of the nation as a public good but possibly needing contextualising. In Germany (and relatedl there are huge multinational companies that undoubtedly benefitted from Nazi work-camps or assett-confis ations that might owe a moral debt in more recent climate even though generations have passed since such things. Pretty much every culture will have such examples (and if it's not transatlantic slavery, too for the US version, it could be the treatment of native tribes/lands, starting well before; or share-croppers/dustbowl/Great Depression/poor-immigrants issues more recently, if the Agricola reference is any clue), or is it just general inheritance (and maybe Fred Trump in particular?) [[Special:Contributions/141.101.99.161\|141.101.99.161]] 15:27, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
		+	:Don't forget the China connection with the Muslim Wiegers forced to work in concentration camps manufacturing products sold in the U.S. Who's benefiting from this now?

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 : Can someone create a [[:Category:Board games]]? [[:Category:Chess]] should be subcategory of this category, and this comic, and [[1566: Board Game]], [[492: Scrabble]], [[839: Explorers]], [[778: Scheduling]], [[738: Incision]] can be added to it. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.35.39|172.69.35.39]] 18:48, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
-:: Created the category, however I'm not brave enough to put Chess into it. --
+:: Created the category, however I'm not brave enough to put Chess into it. -- [[User:Hkmaly|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly|talk]]) 00:51, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
 :: Talking about chess, I quote: "Board games do not normally include an inheritance from previous sessions[citation needed]"...uh, you are probably not old enough to have played an adjourned chess game ;-) [[Special:Contributions/141.101.105.134|141.101.105.134]] 09:00, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
 ::: Others where braver I can see. Bu great category. --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 07:02, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
 The explanation seems a bit bare of what examples of inherited wealth this is parodying. In the UK there's a bruhaha (in some circles, and equally a bruhaha about the other bruhaha in other circles) about historic Slavery-profits that set up now historical country estates, etc,now maintained on behalf of the nation as a public good but possibly needing contextualising. In Germany (and relatedl there are huge multinational companies that undoubtedly benefitted from Nazi work-camps or assett-confis ations that might owe a moral debt in more recent climate even though generations have passed since such things. Pretty much every culture will have such examples (and if it's not transatlantic slavery, too for the US version, it could be the treatment of native tribes/lands, starting well before; or share-croppers/dustbowl/Great Depression/poor-immigrants issues more recently, if the Agricola reference is any clue), or is it just general inheritance (and maybe Fred Trump in particular?) [[Special:Contributions/141.101.99.161|141.101.99.161]] 15:27, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

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	:: Talking about chess, I quote: "Board games do not normally include an inheritance from previous sessions[citation needed]"...uh, you are probably not old enough to have played an adjourned chess game ;-) [[Special:Contributions/141.101.105.134\|141.101.105.134]] 09:00, 27 May 2021 (UTC)		:: Talking about chess, I quote: "Board games do not normally include an inheritance from previous sessions[citation needed]"...uh, you are probably not old enough to have played an adjourned chess game ;-) [[Special:Contributions/141.101.105.134\|141.101.105.134]] 09:00, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
	::: Others where braver I can see. Bu great category. --[[User:Kynde\|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde\|talk]]) 07:02, 27 May 2021 (UTC)		::: Others where braver I can see. Bu great category. --[[User:Kynde\|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde\|talk]]) 07:02, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
		+	The explanation seems a bit bare of what examples of inherited wealth this is parodying. In the UK there's a bruhaha (in some circles, and equally a bruhaha about the other bruhaha in other circles) about historic Slavery-profits that set up now historical country estates, etc,now maintained on behalf of the nation as a public good but possibly needing contextualising. In Germany (and relatedl there are huge multinational companies that undoubtedly benefitted from Nazi work-camps or assett-confis ations that might owe a moral debt in more recent climate even though generations have passed since such things. Pretty much every culture will have such examples (and if it's not transatlantic slavery, too for the US version, it could be the treatment of native tribes/lands, starting well before; or share-croppers/dustbowl/Great Depression/poor-immigrants issues more recently, if the Agricola reference is any clue), or is it just general inheritance (and maybe Fred Trump in particular?) [[Special:Contributions/141.101.99.161\|141.101.99.161]] 15:27, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

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	: Can someone create a [[:Category:Board games]]? [[:Category:Chess]] should be subcategory of this category, and this comic, and [[1566: Board Game]], [[492: Scrabble]], [[839: Explorers]], [[778: Scheduling]], [[738: Incision]] can be added to it. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.35.39\|172.69.35.39]] 18:48, 26 May 2021 (UTC)		: Can someone create a [[:Category:Board games]]? [[:Category:Chess]] should be subcategory of this category, and this comic, and [[1566: Board Game]], [[492: Scrabble]], [[839: Explorers]], [[778: Scheduling]], [[738: Incision]] can be added to it. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.35.39\|172.69.35.39]] 18:48, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
	:: Created the category, however I'm not brave enough to put Chess into it. -- [[User:Hkmaly\|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly\|talk]]) 00:51, 27 May 2021 (UTC)		:: Created the category, however I'm not brave enough to put Chess into it. -- [[User:Hkmaly\|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly\|talk]]) 00:51, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
		+	::: Others where braver I can see. Bu great category. --[[User:Kynde\|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde\|talk]]) 07:02, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

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 huh. ive never seen a comic explanation finished so quickly in a bit! we sure about removing that tag?
 I feel like this is very much a criticism of modern day (colonial) capitalism. It's both concisely stating that the disparity is absurd, that small donations from billionaires are laughable and dont change the inherent unfairness, and implies that the best way of leveling the playing field is to wiping the slate.
 The title text references the pro- colonial argument that engaging in exploitation is being smart, because it was bound to be done by somebody, so the perpetrators are smart for taking initiative. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.203.15|162.158.203.15]] 01:45, 27 May 2021 (UTC)