Talk:2475: Health Drink - Revision history

172.70.126.2 at 23:18, 29 June 2021

2021-06-29T23:18:39Z

172.69.55.82: is it even a controlled trial that cueball suggests?

2021-06-24T15:06:48Z

is it even a controlled trial that cueball suggests?

141.101.99.94 at 12:09, 18 June 2021

2021-06-18T12:09:40Z

172.70.51.186: Random thoughts mostly.

2021-06-17T14:55:22Z

Random thoughts mostly.

141.101.98.244 at 15:56, 16 June 2021

2021-06-16T15:56:44Z

Seebert at 13:00, 16 June 2021

2021-06-16T13:00:35Z

108.162.215.48: typo

2021-06-16T10:00:00Z

typo

108.162.215.48: explain more

2021-06-16T09:59:30Z

explain more

172.69.35.199: guess

2021-06-16T09:54:19Z

guess

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2021-06-16T00:15:07Z

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Actually, there would be quite a lot of scientists, experts in their fields, which may have trouble using excel or think excel is good way to store data. However, White Hat likely isn't scientist, and "nanoenzymes" may actually be normal enzymes just with cooler name suggesting nanotechnology, because, well, they have the right size for that. -- [[User:Hkmaly|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly|talk]]) 00:15, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

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 It should probably be noted your body is unlikely to absorb nanoenzymes through the digestive tract. Even regular enzymes or polypeptides not really absorbed intact through the digestive system. Even if the nanoenzymes could train the immune system, they would be of little value in a health drink. Finally, anything mucking with the immune system should probably go through the healthcare system, not a health drink. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.51.186|172.70.51.186]] 14:55, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
 :My interpretation is that the nucleic acid nanoenzymes ''are'' viral. With or without a capsid shell (some can work that way, and in concentrated amounts there may be some flock-like protection from the environment) and other helper-proteins (not always necessary, if the D/RNA exposes the right key elements from its packing to create enzymish active sites), what you've basically got there is a whole lot of virus... erm, viruses/viri/viroxen... Which ''of course'' trains your immune system to handle a virus, or you'll die trying. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.99.94|141.101.99.94]] 12:09, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
 Actually what Cueball proposes does not even meet the requirements of a randomized controlled trial, he seems to be suggesting an exploratory field test; which is much less rigourous than a randomised controlled trial. Of course even that is too much for white hat. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.55.82|172.69.55.82]] 15:06, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

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	It should probably be noted your body is unlikely to absorb nanoenzymes through the digestive tract. Even regular enzymes or polypeptides not really absorbed intact through the digestive system. Even if the nanoenzymes could train the immune system, they would be of little value in a health drink. Finally, anything mucking with the immune system should probably go through the healthcare system, not a health drink. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.51.186\|172.70.51.186]] 14:55, 17 June 2021 (UTC)		It should probably be noted your body is unlikely to absorb nanoenzymes through the digestive tract. Even regular enzymes or polypeptides not really absorbed intact through the digestive system. Even if the nanoenzymes could train the immune system, they would be of little value in a health drink. Finally, anything mucking with the immune system should probably go through the healthcare system, not a health drink. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.51.186\|172.70.51.186]] 14:55, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
	:My interpretation is that the nucleic acid nanoenzymes ''are'' viral. With or without a capsid shell (some can work that way, and in concentrated amounts there may be some flock-like protection from the environment) and other helper-proteins (not always necessary, if the D/RNA exposes the right key elements from its packing to create enzymish active sites), what you've basically got there is a whole lot of virus... erm, viruses/viri/viroxen... Which ''of course'' trains your immune system to handle a virus, or you'll die trying. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.99.94\|141.101.99.94]] 12:09, 18 June 2021 (UTC)		:My interpretation is that the nucleic acid nanoenzymes ''are'' viral. With or without a capsid shell (some can work that way, and in concentrated amounts there may be some flock-like protection from the environment) and other helper-proteins (not always necessary, if the D/RNA exposes the right key elements from its packing to create enzymish active sites), what you've basically got there is a whole lot of virus... erm, viruses/viri/viroxen... Which ''of course'' trains your immune system to handle a virus, or you'll die trying. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.99.94\|141.101.99.94]] 12:09, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
		+	Actually what Cueball proposes does not even meet the requirements of a randomized controlled trial, he seems to be suggesting an exploratory field test; which is much less rigourous than a randomised controlled trial. Of course even that is too much for white hat. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.55.82\|172.69.55.82]] 15:06, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

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	It should probably be noted your body is unlikely to absorb nanoenzymes through the digestive tract. Even regular enzymes or polypeptides not really absorbed intact through the digestive system. Even if the nanoenzymes could train the immune system, they would be of little value in a health drink. Finally, anything mucking with the immune system should probably go through the healthcare system, not a health drink. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.51.186\|172.70.51.186]] 14:55, 17 June 2021 (UTC)		It should probably be noted your body is unlikely to absorb nanoenzymes through the digestive tract. Even regular enzymes or polypeptides not really absorbed intact through the digestive system. Even if the nanoenzymes could train the immune system, they would be of little value in a health drink. Finally, anything mucking with the immune system should probably go through the healthcare system, not a health drink. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.51.186\|172.70.51.186]] 14:55, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
		+	:My interpretation is that the nucleic acid nanoenzymes ''are'' viral. With or without a capsid shell (some can work that way, and in concentrated amounts there may be some flock-like protection from the environment) and other helper-proteins (not always necessary, if the D/RNA exposes the right key elements from its packing to create enzymish active sites), what you've basically got there is a whole lot of virus... erm, viruses/viri/viroxen... Which ''of course'' trains your immune system to handle a virus, or you'll die trying. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.99.94\|141.101.99.94]] 12:09, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

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	Probably not worth even a Trivia entry but, w.r.t Excel, my first thought about the Excel mention was this thing from last year: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-54423988 [[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.244\|141.101.98.244]] 15:56, 16 June 2021 (UTC)		Probably not worth even a Trivia entry but, w.r.t Excel, my first thought about the Excel mention was this thing from last year: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-54423988 [[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.244\|141.101.98.244]] 15:56, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
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		+	It should probably be noted your body is unlikely to absorb nanoenzymes through the digestive tract. Even regular enzymes or polypeptides not really absorbed intact through the digestive system. Even if the nanoenzymes could train the immune system, they would be of little value in a health drink. Finally, anything mucking with the immune system should probably go through the healthcare system, not a health drink. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.51.186\|172.70.51.186]] 14:55, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

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	:Nanoenzymes are inorganic nanoparticles (typically many thousands of Daltons) with artificial catalytic enzymes stuck on their surface. I don't think they're ever administered by ingestion. And as pertains to the comic, they are impossible to engineer without a solid working familiarity with experimental design. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.35.199\|172.69.35.199]] 09:54, 16 June 2021 (UTC)		:Nanoenzymes are inorganic nanoparticles (typically many thousands of Daltons) with artificial catalytic enzymes stuck on their surface. I don't think they're ever administered by ingestion. And as pertains to the comic, they are impossible to engineer without a solid working familiarity with experimental design. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.35.199\|172.69.35.199]] 09:54, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
	I can think of a few famous medicines being promoted by government right now with insufficient testing data.[[User:Seebert\|Seebert]] ([[User talk:Seebert\|talk]]) 13:00, 16 June 2021 (UTC)		I can think of a few famous medicines being promoted by government right now with insufficient testing data.[[User:Seebert\|Seebert]] ([[User talk:Seebert\|talk]]) 13:00, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
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		+	Probably not worth even a Trivia entry but, w.r.t Excel, my first thought about the Excel mention was this thing from last year: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-54423988 [[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.244\|141.101.98.244]] 15:56, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

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	Actually, there would be quite a lot of scientists, experts in their fields, which may have trouble using excel or think excel is good way to store data. However, White Hat likely isn't scientist, and "nanoenzymes" may actually be normal enzymes just with cooler name suggesting nanotechnology, because, well, they have the right size for that. -- [[User:Hkmaly\|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly\|talk]]) 00:15, 16 June 2021 (UTC)		Actually, there would be quite a lot of scientists, experts in their fields, which may have trouble using excel or think excel is good way to store data. However, White Hat likely isn't scientist, and "nanoenzymes" may actually be normal enzymes just with cooler name suggesting nanotechnology, because, well, they have the right size for that. -- [[User:Hkmaly\|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly\|talk]]) 00:15, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
	:Nanoenzymes are inorganic nanoparticles (typically many thousands of Daltons) with artificial catalytic enzymes stuck on their surface. I don't think they're ever administered by ingestion. And as pertains to the comic, they are impossible to engineer without a solid working familiarity with experimental design. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.35.199\|172.69.35.199]] 09:54, 16 June 2021 (UTC)		:Nanoenzymes are inorganic nanoparticles (typically many thousands of Daltons) with artificial catalytic enzymes stuck on their surface. I don't think they're ever administered by ingestion. And as pertains to the comic, they are impossible to engineer without a solid working familiarity with experimental design. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.35.199\|172.69.35.199]] 09:54, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
		+	I can think of a few famous medicines being promoted by government right now with insufficient testing data.[[User:Seebert\|Seebert]] ([[User talk:Seebert\|talk]]) 13:00, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

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	Actually, there would be quite a lot of scientists, experts in their fields, which may have trouble using excel or think excel is good way to store data. However, White Hat likely isn't scientist, and "nanoenzymes" may actually be normal enzymes just with cooler name suggesting nanotechnology, because, well, they have the right size for that. -- [[User:Hkmaly\|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly\|talk]]) 00:15, 16 June 2021 (UTC)		Actually, there would be quite a lot of scientists, experts in their fields, which may have trouble using excel or think excel is good way to store data. However, White Hat likely isn't scientist, and "nanoenzymes" may actually be normal enzymes just with cooler name suggesting nanotechnology, because, well, they have the right size for that. -- [[User:Hkmaly\|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly\|talk]]) 00:15, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
−	:Nanoenzymes are inorganic nanoparticles (typically many thousands of Daltons) with artificial catalytic enzymes stuck on their surface. I don't think they're ever administered by ingestion. And as pertains to the ~~comment~~, they are impossible to engineer without a solid working familiarity with experimental design. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.35.199\|172.69.35.199]] 09:54, 16 June 2021 (UTC)	+	:Nanoenzymes are inorganic nanoparticles (typically many thousands of Daltons) with artificial catalytic enzymes stuck on their surface. I don't think they're ever administered by ingestion. And as pertains to the comic, they are impossible to engineer without a solid working familiarity with experimental design. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.35.199\|172.69.35.199]] 09:54, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

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	Actually, there would be quite a lot of scientists, experts in their fields, which may have trouble using excel or think excel is good way to store data. However, White Hat likely isn't scientist, and "nanoenzymes" may actually be normal enzymes just with cooler name suggesting nanotechnology, because, well, they have the right size for that. -- [[User:Hkmaly\|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly\|talk]]) 00:15, 16 June 2021 (UTC)		Actually, there would be quite a lot of scientists, experts in their fields, which may have trouble using excel or think excel is good way to store data. However, White Hat likely isn't scientist, and "nanoenzymes" may actually be normal enzymes just with cooler name suggesting nanotechnology, because, well, they have the right size for that. -- [[User:Hkmaly\|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly\|talk]]) 00:15, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
−	:~~I think nanoenzymes~~ are inorganic nanoparticles (typically thousands of Daltons) with artificial catalytic enzymes stuck on their surface. ~~And~~ I don't think they're ever administered by ingestion. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.35.199\|172.69.35.199]] 09:54, 16 June 2021 (UTC)	+	:Nanoenzymes are inorganic nanoparticles (typically many thousands of Daltons) with artificial catalytic enzymes stuck on their surface. I don't think they're ever administered by ingestion. And as pertains to the comment, they are impossible to engineer without a solid working familiarity with experimental design. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.35.199\|172.69.35.199]] 09:54, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

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	Actually, there would be quite a lot of scientists, experts in their fields, which may have trouble using excel or think excel is good way to store data. However, White Hat likely isn't scientist, and "nanoenzymes" may actually be normal enzymes just with cooler name suggesting nanotechnology, because, well, they have the right size for that. -- [[User:Hkmaly\|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly\|talk]]) 00:15, 16 June 2021 (UTC)		Actually, there would be quite a lot of scientists, experts in their fields, which may have trouble using excel or think excel is good way to store data. However, White Hat likely isn't scientist, and "nanoenzymes" may actually be normal enzymes just with cooler name suggesting nanotechnology, because, well, they have the right size for that. -- [[User:Hkmaly\|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly\|talk]]) 00:15, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
		+	:I think nanoenzymes are inorganic nanoparticles (typically thousands of Daltons) with artificial catalytic enzymes stuck on their surface. And I don't think they're ever administered by ingestion. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.35.199\|172.69.35.199]] 09:54, 16 June 2021 (UTC)