Talk:2587: For the Sake of Simplicity - Revision history

172.70.90.211: Moving the newest post to the bottom (proper chronological order) and removed the inadvertent (pre?)repeated signoff that 'hid' the standard instruction comment from those so inclined to top-post like that.

2022-05-02T17:08:45Z

Moving the newest post to the bottom (proper chronological order) and removed the inadvertent (pre?)repeated signoff that 'hid' the standard instruction comment from those so inclined to top-post like that.

172.70.93.37 at 06:02, 2 May 2022

2022-05-02T06:02:31Z

Sla29970: Lost

2022-03-03T04:55:17Z

Lost

172.70.91.126: Undoubling my negatives

2022-03-02T13:46:47Z

Undoubling my negatives

172.70.85.177 at 13:45, 2 March 2022

2022-03-02T13:45:12Z

162.158.107.124: Undoing my comment, which I decided wasn't helpful.

2022-03-02T09:14:04Z

Undoing my comment, which I decided wasn't helpful.

162.158.107.124: Minor comment on Schwarzschild vs Swarovski names

2022-03-02T09:12:25Z

Minor comment on Schwarzschild vs Swarovski names

ProphetZarquon: Schwarzchild crystal's orchid?

2022-03-02T04:24:39Z

Schwarzchild crystal's orchid?

ProphetZarquon: I cannot pass Go

2022-03-02T04:19:05Z

I cannot pass Go

172.70.110.161 at 18:51, 1 March 2022

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-As an example of a similar oddity in a real game, the "simplified" version of Advanced Squad Leader, found in the Starter Kit products, includes a map with grain fields. Instead of (1) treating the grain as always present and thus able to provide concealment for soldiers, or (2) conditionally removed on a scenario-by-scenario basis ("All grain hexes are treated as Open Ground during this scenario"), the designers added a rule in the rulebook: "Grain is in season during the months of June and July". Players are expected to actually check the date printed on the scenario description in order to find out whether the grain is high enough to prevent clear shots. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.93.37|172.70.93.37]] 06:02, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
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 So many modern board games are made complex by complex rules, but remain simplistic. Go is very simple (grid of nineteen lines, two types of pieces, and about three rules, but is arguably the most inherently complex game in existence. [[User:RIIW - Ponder it|RIIW - Ponder it]] ([[User talk:RIIW - Ponder it|talk]]) 23:04, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
 :That "about" three rules, continues to confound me. Everyone who's tried to explain them to me, says it's easier to learn by playing, but I ''still'' don't fully understand, even after losing a dozen games & watching many more. It's a shapey spacey thing, & I'm not sure it makes sense to me.
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 One hundred internet points to whomever designs such a game! [[User:Cwallenpoole|Cwallenpoole]] ([[User talk:Cwallenpoole|talk]]) 16:24, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
 : Now I'm picturing Matt Mercer running a session of whatever it is... live on Twitch. Dammit. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.110.161|172.70.110.161]] 18:51, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

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		+	As an example of a similar oddity in a real game, the "simplified" version of Advanced Squad Leader, found in the Starter Kit products, includes a map with grain fields. Instead of (1) treating the grain as always present and thus able to provide concealment for soldiers, or (2) conditionally removed on a scenario-by-scenario basis ("All grain hexes are treated as Open Ground during this scenario"), the designers added a rule in the rulebook: "Grain is in season during the months of June and July". Players are expected to actually check the date printed on the scenario description in order to find out whether the grain is high enough to prevent clear shots. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.93.37\|172.70.93.37]] 06:02, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
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	--[[User:RIIW - Ponder it\|RIIW - Ponder it]] ([[User talk:RIIW - Ponder it\|talk]]) 23:04, 28 February 2022 (UTC)<!--Please sign your posts with ~~~~ and don't delete this text. New comments should be added at the bottom.-->		--[[User:RIIW - Ponder it\|RIIW - Ponder it]] ([[User talk:RIIW - Ponder it\|talk]]) 23:04, 28 February 2022 (UTC)<!--Please sign your posts with ~~~~ and don't delete this text. New comments should be added at the bottom.-->
	So many modern board games are made complex by complex rules, but remain simplistic. Go is very simple (grid of nineteen lines, two types of pieces, and about three rules, but is arguably the most inherently complex game in existence. [[User:RIIW - Ponder it\|RIIW - Ponder it]] ([[User talk:RIIW - Ponder it\|talk]]) 23:04, 28 February 2022 (UTC)		So many modern board games are made complex by complex rules, but remain simplistic. Go is very simple (grid of nineteen lines, two types of pieces, and about three rules, but is arguably the most inherently complex game in existence. [[User:RIIW - Ponder it\|RIIW - Ponder it]] ([[User talk:RIIW - Ponder it\|talk]]) 23:04, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

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	Maybe link to the other comic relating to the schwarzchild radius, [[2088: Schwarzschild's Cat]]? [[Special:Contributions/108.162.237.249\|108.162.237.249]] 12:56, 1 March 2022 (UTC)Bumpf		Maybe link to the other comic relating to the schwarzchild radius, [[2088: Schwarzschild's Cat]]? [[Special:Contributions/108.162.237.249\|108.162.237.249]] 12:56, 1 March 2022 (UTC)Bumpf
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		+	Somebody should investigate the works of JJ Abrams and transcribe to here https://lostpedia.fandom.com/wiki/The_Orchid/Theories [[User:Sla29970\|Sla29970]] ([[User talk:Sla29970\|talk]]) 04:55, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

	Ah... I see the change (Stamina->Cardio) makes it a strict layering of 'clarification', each "simplification" needing a further simplification to explain an aspect. When it was the original Stamina it looked like a disconnect "that didn't need explaining" that Cardio values did not need expanding upon, save that (perhaps as already explained) they probably derived upon several other values, such as the yet-to-be-further-clarified Stamina one plus others (BMI, etc). As it now is, it looks like a depth-first explanation, and one can only wonder what new rule 'simplifications' we hit between hitting the bottom of of the current reductionist precis and starting down other branches of rationalisation, on the way to the detail about the lrchids, perhaps. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.86.64\|172.70.86.64]] 14:46, 1 March 2022 (UTC)		Ah... I see the change (Stamina->Cardio) makes it a strict layering of 'clarification', each "simplification" needing a further simplification to explain an aspect. When it was the original Stamina it looked like a disconnect "that didn't need explaining" that Cardio values did not need expanding upon, save that (perhaps as already explained) they probably derived upon several other values, such as the yet-to-be-further-clarified Stamina one plus others (BMI, etc). As it now is, it looks like a depth-first explanation, and one can only wonder what new rule 'simplifications' we hit between hitting the bottom of of the current reductionist precis and starting down other branches of rationalisation, on the way to the detail about the lrchids, perhaps. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.86.64\|172.70.86.64]] 14:46, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

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 :Isn't Schwarzchild Orchid a reference to Schwarzchild crystals & jewelry's floral designs, of which the orchid was considered especially beautiful (& expensive) artistry? That was the first place my mind went, with "Schwarzchild Orchid": a crystal orchid by Schwarzchild co. ?
 :[[User:ProphetZarquon|ProphetZarquon]] ([[User talk:ProphetZarquon|talk]]) 04:24, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
-::Apart from a "family run jewellery business" in basically one location, which you might find with many such surnames, I couldn't find a Schwarzchild connection to a major jeweller. There's Swarovski (and Swarovski Crystals®) and just plain-old Schwartz, as widely-touted brandnames that sell via many online outlets. Now, I'm not 'in the trade' so I'm going just by my basic feeling that you misremember (backed up with a scant two minutes of comparative Googling - including some even less productive side-hunches, e.g. "Schwarzkopf", which got me a train engineer instead of a jeweller) and maybe I'm missing an actually quite famous (but surprisingly not so electronically undocumented) rival to Fabergé, but right now I don't see it. If you get a good (wiki?)link to what turns out you ''have'' actually correctly remembered, then it's possibly worth at least a Trivia entry to at least make me more informed. Over to you(/whoever gets there first), as you see appropriate! [[Special:Contributions/172.70.85.177|172.70.85.177]] 13:45, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
+::Apart from a "family run jewellery business" in basically one location, which you might find with many such surnames, I couldn't find a Schwarzchild connection to a major jeweller. There's Swarovski (and Swarovski Crystals®) and just plain-old Schwartz, as widely-touted brandnames that sell via many online outlets. Now, I'm not 'in the trade' so I'm going just by my basic feeling that you misremember (backed up with a scant two minutes of comparative Googling - including some even less productive side-hunches, e.g. "Schwarzkopf", which got me a train engineer instead of a jeweller) and maybe I'm missing an actually quite famous (but surprisingly not so electronically documented) rival to Fabergé, but right now I don't see it. If you get a good (wiki?)link to what turns out you ''have'' actually correctly remembered, then it's possibly worth at least a Trivia entry to at least make me more informed. Over to you(/whoever gets there first), as you see appropriate! [[Special:Contributions/172.70.85.177|172.70.85.177]] 13:45, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
 Why do people always mangle Schwarzschild's name? it's so appropriate for what he's famous for!

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 :Isn't Schwarzchild Orchid a reference to Schwarzchild crystals & jewelry's floral designs, of which the orchid was considered especially beautiful (& expensive) artistry? That was the first place my mind went, with "Schwarzchild Orchid": a crystal orchid by Schwarzchild co. ?
 :[[User:ProphetZarquon|ProphetZarquon]] ([[User talk:ProphetZarquon|talk]]) 04:24, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
 Why do people always mangle Schwarzschild's name? it's so appropriate for what he's famous for!

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	One hundred internet points to whomever designs such a game! [[User:Cwallenpoole\|Cwallenpoole]] ([[User talk:Cwallenpoole\|talk]]) 16:24, 1 March 2022 (UTC)		One hundred internet points to whomever designs such a game! [[User:Cwallenpoole\|Cwallenpoole]] ([[User talk:Cwallenpoole\|talk]]) 16:24, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
		+	: Now I'm picturing Matt Mercer running a session of whatever it is... live on Twitch. Dammit. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.110.161\|172.70.110.161]] 18:51, 1 March 2022 (UTC)