Talk:2603: Childhood Toys - Revision history

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172.69.134.6 at 22:59, 28 May 2023

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Yorkshire Pudding at 11:42, 15 April 2022

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Cwallenpoole at 23:47, 11 April 2022

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 How are a bicycle, scooter or wagon toys, or childlike. They're actually designed for commute and children aren't even allowed on scooters.
 [[User:Tharkon|Tharkon]] ([[User talk:Tharkon|talk]]) 22:45, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
-:They're toys. Buy a car, loser.
+::They're toys. Buy a car, loser. {{unsigned ip|2607:fb91:191c:4eac:ac39:60f1:8142:b93f|16:00, 22 May 2026}}
 :Wagon doesn't mean station wagon. Google "toy wagon" to see what he's referring to. And electric scooter is a motorized version of a common child's toy. [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 22:56, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
 ::I didn't actually assume a station wagon, was thinking of the thing usually pulled by horses. And doesn't the fact that a 'toy wagon' exists suggest that a regular wagon is not a toy? And I thought a scooter was more like a motorized bicycle rather than a toy, like a motorcycle, but slower. And at least here, you'd need to be at least 16 years old and get a permit to drive one. Funny how the same word borrowed in a closely related language can suddenly carry such different meanings. [[User:Tharkon|Tharkon]] ([[User talk:Tharkon|talk]]) 23:17, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
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 ::::*Now (well, since the last few years) the illustrated kind that is electrically-powered version of the sturdier push-alongs.
 ::::...though (as I appended in a link), except for some very limited and controlled trial-schemes, it is actually ''illegal'' to use electric 'executive' scooters (the last category). Both on roads and pavements (i.e. sidewalks). They are not considered roadworthy, for the former, and riding on the pavement is illegal for various vehicles (including bicycles, though few know/care this). There's no special provision for the use of cycle-lanes (on-road) or cycle-paths (shared/split pavements, or bridlepath-level trails). The only place an otherwise unregulated electric-scooter can be ridden is 'private land'. Which means you'd have very little chance of commuting upon your own scooter, legally, only the sanctioned for-hire ones.
-:::::It's not a British webcomic. He's obviously not referring to UK vehicles.
+::::::It's not a British webcomic. He's obviously not referring to UK vehicles. {{unsigned ip|2607:fb91:191c:4eac:ac39:60f1:8142:b93f|16:00, 22 May 2026}}
 :::::I was in Austin, TX a few months ago, and companies like Lime Bike had pods of electric scooters (like the one in the comic) for rent on the streets. So the legality is very location-dependent. [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 14:03, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
 ::::::This is a description of the situation in the UK (see link I put in main explanation), although the sanctioned rental schemes mentioned are the explicitly legal exception for the UK, in explicitly served areas... as long as you have a driver's licence and follow other rules. Looking at the US legality, it's probably as patchwork as you'd expect with federal/state/local laws doing their usual uncoordinated things... ;) [[Special:Contributions/172.70.86.64|172.70.86.64]] 14:34, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
 ::::(There's no such restrection on e-bikes, except for a theoretical maximum speed/power before they should be considersd motorbikes rather than electrified-mopeds. They are as welcome on the roads as bicycles (which largely depends upon the motorists and their prejudices/impatience), and similarly as illegal to ride on pavements (though of course people do that!)...) [[Special:Contributions/172.70.162.77|172.70.162.77]] 12:30, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
 :Is this possibly a cultural difference? At least in the USA, I have definitely seen kids (maybe not much younger than 10, but still) using electric scooters. Wagons and bikes are definitely associated more with kids in the USA as well, because, unfortunately, cars are seen as the only "real," most viable, and most independent form of transport. (As I have heard others say, bikes are just what you use until you get a car.) [[Special:Contributions/172.70.114.251|172.70.114.251]] 01:31, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
-::They're seen that way because they are.
+:::They're seen that way because they are. {{unsigned ip|2607:fb91:191c:4eac:ac39:60f1:8142:b93f|16:00, 22 May 2026}}
 ::Presumably. This puzzled me a lot too. Bicycles aren't remotely 'toys', nor are scooters really -- and I'm assuming here this don't mean scooters in the sense of a small motorbike. EDIT: as is obvious from the actual cartoon. [[User:Zoid42|Zoid42]] ([[User talk:Zoid42|talk]]) 08:49, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
-:::Bikes are toys.
+::::Bikes are toys. {{unsigned ip|2607:fb91:191c:4eac:ac39:60f1:8142:b93f|16:00, 22 May 2026}}
 :::In some areas of the US, bicycles are used solely for pleasure and exercise, not for actually getting anywhere. Partially because there isn't anything worth going to within an easy biking distance, and partially because the entire road system and the people who use it are often openly hostile to bicyclists.[[Special:Contributions/172.70.174.13|172.70.174.13]] 09:25, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
-::::Get a car, loser.
+:::::Get a car, loser. {{unsigned ip|2607:fb91:191c:4eac:ac39:60f1:8142:b93f|16:00, 22 May 2026}}
 :It's surprising to see bikes listed as toys and not automobiles. Makes it seem like some new conservative meme has snuck into Randal. Weird comic for sure. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.114.251|172.70.114.251]] 21:24, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
-::Not surprising and not conservative. Bikes are toys.
+:::Not surprising and not conservative. Bikes are toys. {{unsigned ip|2607:fb91:191c:4eac:ac39:60f1:8142:b93f|16:00, 22 May 2026}}
 ::Not all the things listed are really toys, it's more that there are versions made for children, and you might well have had them as a child. You do not get automobiles aimed at children (with a few expensive exceptions), so that's why they are not in the list. The closest would be pedal cars and go-karts - I think they are the more notable exception. I would totally commute to work on an electic go-kart if I could. [[User:Sandor|Sandor]] ([[User talk:Sandor|talk]]) 09:13, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
 ::Yeah, I'm a bit surprised at the surprise being caused by bikes as toys. Obviously a bicycle is a type of transport, but little kids play on bikes. A little bike, for going out and playing on with with little-bike-owning little friends. Maybe not a 'toy' in a strict sense, but a thing used for for playing, which can - in an adult context - be used for transport. It's kind of the whole point of the cartoon - a gradient of successfully repurposing childish playthings for transport, starting - naturally - with childish versions of forms of transport at the successful end, moving through the increasingly ridiculous. "Toy" accuracy isn't really the point. [[User:Yorkshire Pudding|Yorkshire Pudding]] ([[User talk:Yorkshire Pudding|talk]]) 11:42, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

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 ::::*Now (well, since the last few years) the illustrated kind that is electrically-powered version of the sturdier push-alongs.
 ::::...though (as I appended in a link), except for some very limited and controlled trial-schemes, it is actually ''illegal'' to use electric 'executive' scooters (the last category). Both on roads and pavements (i.e. sidewalks). They are not considered roadworthy, for the former, and riding on the pavement is illegal for various vehicles (including bicycles, though few know/care this). There's no special provision for the use of cycle-lanes (on-road) or cycle-paths (shared/split pavements, or bridlepath-level trails). The only place an otherwise unregulated electric-scooter can be ridden is 'private land'. Which means you'd have very little chance of commuting upon your own scooter, legally, only the sanctioned for-hire ones.
 :::::I was in Austin, TX a few months ago, and companies like Lime Bike had pods of electric scooters (like the one in the comic) for rent on the streets. So the legality is very location-dependent. [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 14:03, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
 ::::::This is a description of the situation in the UK (see link I put in main explanation), although the sanctioned rental schemes mentioned are the explicitly legal exception for the UK, in explicitly served areas... as long as you have a driver's licence and follow other rules. Looking at the US legality, it's probably as patchwork as you'd expect with federal/state/local laws doing their usual uncoordinated things... ;) [[Special:Contributions/172.70.86.64|172.70.86.64]] 14:34, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
 ::::(There's no such restrection on e-bikes, except for a theoretical maximum speed/power before they should be considersd motorbikes rather than electrified-mopeds. They are as welcome on the roads as bicycles (which largely depends upon the motorists and their prejudices/impatience), and similarly as illegal to ride on pavements (though of course people do that!)...) [[Special:Contributions/172.70.162.77|172.70.162.77]] 12:30, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
 :Is this possibly a cultural difference? At least in the USA, I have definitely seen kids (maybe not much younger than 10, but still) using electric scooters. Wagons and bikes are definitely associated more with kids in the USA as well, because, unfortunately, cars are seen as the only "real," most viable, and most independent form of transport. (As I have heard others say, bikes are just what you use until you get a car.) [[Special:Contributions/172.70.114.251|172.70.114.251]] 01:31, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
 ::Presumably. This puzzled me a lot too. Bicycles aren't remotely 'toys', nor are scooters really -- and I'm assuming here this don't mean scooters in the sense of a small motorbike. EDIT: as is obvious from the actual cartoon. [[User:Zoid42|Zoid42]] ([[User talk:Zoid42|talk]]) 08:49, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
 :::In some areas of the US, bicycles are used solely for pleasure and exercise, not for actually getting anywhere. Partially because there isn't anything worth going to within an easy biking distance, and partially because the entire road system and the people who use it are often openly hostile to bicyclists.[[Special:Contributions/172.70.174.13|172.70.174.13]] 09:25, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
 :It's surprising to see bikes listed as toys and not automobiles. Makes it seem like some new conservative meme has snuck into Randal. Weird comic for sure. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.114.251|172.70.114.251]] 21:24, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
 ::Not all the things listed are really toys, it's more that there are versions made for children, and you might well have had them as a child. You do not get automobiles aimed at children (with a few expensive exceptions), so that's why they are not in the list. The closest would be pedal cars and go-karts - I think they are the more notable exception. I would totally commute to work on an electic go-kart if I could. [[User:Sandor|Sandor]] ([[User talk:Sandor|talk]]) 09:13, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
 ::Yeah, I'm a bit surprised at the surprise being caused by bikes as toys. Obviously a bicycle is a type of transport, but little kids play on bikes. A little bike, for going out and playing on with with little-bike-owning little friends. Maybe not a 'toy' in a strict sense, but a thing used for for playing, which can - in an adult context - be used for transport. It's kind of the whole point of the cartoon - a gradient of successfully repurposing childish playthings for transport, starting - naturally - with childish versions of forms of transport at the successful end, moving through the increasingly ridiculous. "Toy" accuracy isn't really the point. [[User:Yorkshire Pudding|Yorkshire Pudding]] ([[User talk:Yorkshire Pudding|talk]]) 11:42, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

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 How are a bicycle, scooter or wagon toys, or childlike. They're actually designed for commute and children aren't even allowed on scooters.
 :They're toys. Buy a car, loser.
 :Wagon doesn't mean station wagon. Google "toy wagon" to see what he's referring to. And electric scooter is a motorized version of a common child's toy. [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 22:56, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
 ::I didn't actually assume a station wagon, was thinking of the thing usually pulled by horses. And doesn't the fact that a 'toy wagon' exists suggest that a regular wagon is not a toy? And I thought a scooter was more like a motorized bicycle rather than a toy, like a motorcycle, but slower. And at least here, you'd need to be at least 16 years old and get a permit to drive one. Funny how the same word borrowed in a closely related language can suddenly carry such different meanings. [[User:Tharkon|Tharkon]] ([[User talk:Tharkon|talk]]) 23:17, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

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-How are a bicycle, scooter or wagon toys, or childlike. They're actually designed for commute and children aren't even allowed on scooters. [[User:Tharkon|Tharkon]] ([[User talk:Tharkon|talk]]) 22:45, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
+How are a bicycle, scooter or wagon toys, or childlike. They're actually designed for commute and children aren't even allowed on scooters.
 :Wagon doesn't mean station wagon. Google "toy wagon" to see what he's referring to. And electric scooter is a motorized version of a common child's toy. [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 22:56, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
 ::I didn't actually assume a station wagon, was thinking of the thing usually pulled by horses. And doesn't the fact that a 'toy wagon' exists suggest that a regular wagon is not a toy? And I thought a scooter was more like a motorized bicycle rather than a toy, like a motorcycle, but slower. And at least here, you'd need to be at least 16 years old and get a permit to drive one. Funny how the same word borrowed in a closely related language can suddenly carry such different meanings. [[User:Tharkon|Tharkon]] ([[User talk:Tharkon|talk]]) 23:17, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

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 -unicycle
-== Similarr idea ==
+== Similar idea ==
 [[Mathematical Symbol Fight]] is also about using common items for unusual purposes. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.134.6|172.69.134.6]] 22:59, 28 May 2023 (UTC)

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		+	[[Mathematical Symbol Fight]] is also about using common items for unusual purposes. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.134.6\|172.69.134.6]] 22:59, 28 May 2023 (UTC)

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	Couldn't the tetherball rotate quickly enough to make it function like a gyroscope? That might make it possible to use such a device to travel. [[User:Cwallenpoole\|Cwallenpoole]] ([[User talk:Cwallenpoole\|talk]]) 23:47, 11 April 2022 (UTC)		Couldn't the tetherball rotate quickly enough to make it function like a gyroscope? That might make it possible to use such a device to travel. [[User:Cwallenpoole\|Cwallenpoole]] ([[User talk:Cwallenpoole\|talk]]) 23:47, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
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		+	Occasionally during snowy conditions my husband would cross-country ski to his law office. Skis also come in children's sizes. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.221.119\|108.162.221.119]] 01:30, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

	== Less Practical Items ==		== Less Practical Items ==

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	Couldn't the tetherball rotate quickly enough to make it function like a gyroscope? That might make it possible to use such a device to travel. [[User:Cwallenpoole\|Cwallenpoole]] ([[User talk:Cwallenpoole\|talk]]) 23:47, 11 April 2022 (UTC)		Couldn't the tetherball rotate quickly enough to make it function like a gyroscope? That might make it possible to use such a device to travel. [[User:Cwallenpoole\|Cwallenpoole]] ([[User talk:Cwallenpoole\|talk]]) 23:47, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
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		+	== Less Practical Items ==
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		+	Hi, just saying, could someone talk about the less practical items, including:
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		+	-skateboard
		+	-roller skates
		+	-big wheel?
		+	-unicycle

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	I remember when I was in elementary school (with tetherballs) I was able to ride on the tetherballs. It was fun, but I was light then... so it IS something which children use to "commute." Around a pole, that is. [[User:Eelitee\|Eelitee]] ([[User talk:Eelitee\|talk]]) 04:33, 10 April 2022 (UTC)		I remember when I was in elementary school (with tetherballs) I was able to ride on the tetherballs. It was fun, but I was light then... so it IS something which children use to "commute." Around a pole, that is. [[User:Eelitee\|Eelitee]] ([[User talk:Eelitee\|talk]]) 04:33, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
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		+	Couldn't the tetherball rotate quickly enough to make it function like a gyroscope? That might make it possible to use such a device to travel. [[User:Cwallenpoole\|Cwallenpoole]] ([[User talk:Cwallenpoole\|talk]]) 23:47, 11 April 2022 (UTC)