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NiceGuy1 at 07:21, 23 April 2022

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NiceGuy1 at 07:02, 23 April 2022

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172.70.211.26: There is an exclave of Great Britain on the big island of Hawaii (Captain Cook's grave) so we have a land boarder with Great Britain too.

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There is an exclave of Great Britain on the big island of Hawaii (Captain Cook's grave) so we have a land boarder with Great Britain too.

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	Also, I know this is true for The Hobbit, but I forget: Did the movie add females who weren't in the book? In order to address this issue? [[User:NiceGuy1\|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1\|talk]]) 07:02, 23 April 2022 (UTC)		Also, I know this is true for The Hobbit, but I forget: Did the movie add females who weren't in the book? In order to address this issue? [[User:NiceGuy1\|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1\|talk]]) 07:02, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
	:No, the LotR movies were better about not inventing characters from whole cloth. --[[Special:Contributions/172.70.211.26\|172.70.211.26]] 06:54, 24 April 2022 (UTC)		:No, the LotR movies were better about not inventing characters from whole cloth. --[[Special:Contributions/172.70.211.26\|172.70.211.26]] 06:54, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
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		+	Why should any particular story have equal numbers of men and women? [[User:Gatorized\|Gatorized]] ([[User talk:Gatorized\|talk]]) 01:39, 27 April 2025 (UTC)

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 ::Very important place in LoTR where Elrond lives. It is where the fellowship of the ring is born. So as real as Narnia... :-D --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 08:53, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
 :LOL! Yeah, a significant location, it's where the Fellowship rest up, IIRC they reunite with Gandalf there. They confer with elven elders there. In the movies the female elder was getting seduced by the ring and gets demonic before catching a hold of herself. [[User:NiceGuy1|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1|talk]]) 07:02, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
 Ummmm, there's ANYBODY who finds it debatable if non-human females count toward the Bechdel test??? By that logic the only male in this comic is Aragorn! Come on! That's one thing that bugs me on this site, SO many explanations with overly cautious uncertainty where none belong. There is no question whatsoever if non-human-but-humanoid females count, I suspect the definition doesn't specify "human", after all. :) My vote is to adjust that part.
 Also, I know this is true for The Hobbit, but I forget: Did the movie add females who weren't in the book? In order to address this issue? [[User:NiceGuy1|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1|talk]]) 07:02, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

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 : My Android phone is too old for me to attempt this, but on my iPad if I tap and hold an image I usually get the mouseover text, but this time it only shows the link and gives me a menu for what to do with it. (I usually just get the mouseover text here, on THIS site). :) [[User:NiceGuy1|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1|talk]]) 07:02, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
 :: My personal experience (not a very recent Android, I think it's browser-specific and I habitually use two different browsers on here so I can test that later, maybe) is that, for this comic, I get the mouseover text (truncated with an ellipsis… as usual for any titletext that's longer than not-very-long-at-all — which is why I also always pay attention to this site, primarily, rather than the original, until I discover that there's direct bonus-stuff to drinking from the true source) plus the youtube URI, and then various choices of copying/saving/etc various things (image, link, link-text, target... I forget exactly what, but around that area) with various usefulnesses-or-not in this context.
-:: For a 'normal' copy, it's just the "titletext…" with its probable truncation and a slightly different set of options regarding mostly opening the image in a new tab/etc. Again, between testing that and writing this I've let the exact details slip from my mind, but YGTI... ;) [[Special:Contributions/172.70.86.64|172.70.86.64]] 15:31, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
+:: For a 'normal' comic, the long-hold just tells me the "titletext…" with its probable truncation and a slightly different set of options regarding mostly opening the image in a new tab/etc. Again, between testing that and writing this I've let the exact details slip from my mind, but YGTI... ;) [[Special:Contributions/172.70.86.64|172.70.86.64]] 15:31, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
 The mouseover text in android devices is this youtube link - [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mt2qCjL6-n4]] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mt2qCjL6-n4 [[User:DefectedWBC|DefectedWBC]] ([[User talk:DefectedWBC|talk]]) 14:18, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

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 : The comic is a link, like [[1017: Backward in Time]] and many others. Many Android browsers simply choose to show the target URL beneath the title text. The YouTube URL is not part of the title text, on a PC you can just click the comic to open it. --[[User:NeatNit|NeatNit]] ([[User talk:NeatNit|talk]]) 11:47, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
 : My Android phone is too old for me to attempt this, but on my iPad if I tap and hold an image I usually get the mouseover text, but this time it only shows the link and gives me a menu for what to do with it. (I usually just get the mouseover text here, on THIS site). :) [[User:NiceGuy1|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1|talk]]) 07:02, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
 The mouseover text in android devices is this youtube link - [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mt2qCjL6-n4]] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mt2qCjL6-n4 [[User:DefectedWBC|DefectedWBC]] ([[User talk:DefectedWBC|talk]]) 14:18, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
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 Was the lack of women in the fellowship because of "the cultural biases of the era in which the novels were written", i.e. a novel writing trope? It would it be more accurate to say [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_War_and_Middle-earth the series is influenced by Tolkien's personal experience of fighting on the front lines in World War I.] Women were [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_World_War_I an important part of the war effort,] but were not permitted to fight as soldiers on the front line. If you still want to count that as cultural bias, it would be the war-waging cultural biases of the 1900s/10s that left millions without their fathers, brothers and sons, rather than novel-writing cultural biases of the 1940s. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.162.77|172.70.162.77]] 19:56, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
 : I don't know, but the {{w|Witch-king of Angmar}}'s over-confident boast to {{w|Éowyn}} wouldn't make as much sense if Middle-Earth armies were routinely populated by both women and men. [[User:Paddles|Paddles]] ([[User talk:Paddles|talk]]) 10:08, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
 My initial reaction to the conversation between Treebeard and Aragorn was that Treebeard was about to become angry and possibly violent due to sexual envy, if he suddenly finds out that all other races in Middle Earth are enjoying normal sexual relations with eachother.  A less likely outcome would be that Treebeard and his chums are all quite "friendly" with each other, and he might expect similar "favours" from the Fellowship in exchange for the Ents' assistance in fighting Saruman, etc.    Or am I reading too much into this strip?  [[User:Beechmere|Beechmere]] ([[User talk:Beechmere|talk]]) 05:27, 22 April 2022 (UTC)Beechmere

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 Was the lack of women in the fellowship because of "the cultural biases of the era in which the novels were written", i.e. a novel writing trope? It would it be more accurate to say [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_War_and_Middle-earth the series is influenced by Tolkien's personal experience of fighting on the front lines in World War I.] Women were [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_World_War_I an important part of the war effort,] but were not permitted to fight as soldiers on the front line. If you still want to count that as cultural bias, it would be the war-waging cultural biases of the 1900s/10s that left millions without their fathers, brothers and sons, rather than novel-writing cultural biases of the 1940s. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.162.77|172.70.162.77]] 19:56, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
 My initial reaction to the conversation between Treebeard and Aragorn was that Treebeard was about to become angry and possibly violent due to sexual envy, if he suddenly finds out that all other races in Middle Earth are enjoying normal sexual relations with eachother.  A less likely outcome would be that Treebeard and his chums are all quite "friendly" with each other, and he might expect similar "favours" from the Fellowship in exchange for the Ents' assistance in fighting Saruman, etc.    Or am I reading too much into this strip?  [[User:Beechmere|Beechmere]] ([[User talk:Beechmere|talk]]) 05:27, 22 April 2022 (UTC)Beechmere
 :That last bit - yes, you are.[[Special:Contributions/172.69.79.203|172.69.79.203]] 08:07, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
 ::Yes very far out there ;-) --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 08:53, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
 Is Rivendell a "real place" in the Lord of the Rings or something that xkcd made up? What is it known for? --[[Special:Contributions/172.70.162.5|172.70.162.5]] 05:36, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

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	:LOL! Yeah, a significant location, it's where the Fellowship rest up, IIRC they reunite with Gandalf there. They confer with elven elders there. In the movies the female elder was getting seduced by the ring and gets demonic before catching a hold of herself. [[User:NiceGuy1\|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1\|talk]]) 07:02, 23 April 2022 (UTC)		:LOL! Yeah, a significant location, it's where the Fellowship rest up, IIRC they reunite with Gandalf there. They confer with elven elders there. In the movies the female elder was getting seduced by the ring and gets demonic before catching a hold of herself. [[User:NiceGuy1\|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1\|talk]]) 07:02, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

−	Ummmm, there's ANYBODY who finds it debatable if non-human females count toward the Bechdel test??? By that logic the only male in this comic is Aragorn! Come on! That's one thing that bugs me on this site, SO many explanations with overly cautious uncertainty where none belong. There is no question whatsoever if non-human-but-humanoid females count, I suspect the definition doesn't specify "human", after all. :) My vote is to adjust that part. [[User:NiceGuy1\|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1\|talk]]) 07:02, 23 April 2022 (UTC)	+	Ummmm, there's ANYBODY who finds it debatable if non-human females count toward the Bechdel test??? By that logic the only male in this comic is Aragorn! Come on! That's one thing that bugs me on this site, SO many explanations with overly cautious uncertainty where none belong. There is no question whatsoever if non-human-but-humanoid females count, I suspect the definition doesn't specify "human", after all. :) My vote is to adjust that part.
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		+	Also, I know this is true for The Hobbit, but I forget: Did the movie add females who weren't in the book? In order to address this issue? [[User:NiceGuy1\|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1\|talk]]) 07:02, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

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	:There's no such thing as 'lowest scoring' - it's framed as a pass/fail test.[[Special:Contributions/172.69.79.203\|172.69.79.203]] 11:39, 21 April 2022 (UTC)		:There's no such thing as 'lowest scoring' - it's framed as a pass/fail test.[[Special:Contributions/172.69.79.203\|172.69.79.203]] 11:39, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
		+	::I would still be inclined to say it fails more. :) It's further from a pass than some.[[User:NiceGuy1\|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1\|talk]]) 07:04, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

	As pointed out in YouTube’s comment section, the video seems to be a joke, not ''actually'' the only female interaction in the films. [[User:Chortos-2\|Chortos-2]] ([[User talk:Chortos-2\|talk]]) 14:49, 20 April 2022 (UTC)		As pointed out in YouTube’s comment section, the video seems to be a joke, not ''actually'' the only female interaction in the films. [[User:Chortos-2\|Chortos-2]] ([[User talk:Chortos-2\|talk]]) 14:49, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

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 : The comic is a link, like [[1017: Backward in Time]] and many others. Many Android browsers simply choose to show the target URL beneath the title text. The YouTube URL is not part of the title text, on a PC you can just click the comic to open it. --[[User:NeatNit|NeatNit]] ([[User talk:NeatNit|talk]]) 11:47, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
 The mouseover text in android devices is this youtube link - [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mt2qCjL6-n4]] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mt2qCjL6-n4 [[User:DefectedWBC|DefectedWBC]] ([[User talk:DefectedWBC|talk]]) 14:18, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
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 I feel like it's weird that nobody's brought up that this is an Ent comic on 4/20. For context, reddit.com/r/trees (the weed subreddit) has an in joke where they call themselves ents, basically. [[User:Bazzherb|Bazzherb]] ([[User talk:Bazzherb|talk]]) 15:44, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
 So who is the third hobbit supposed to be?  --[[Special:Contributions/162.158.203.38|162.158.203.38]] 15:56, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
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 :::You're forgetting about Guam, PR, US VI, N Mariana Isl., and American Samoa are part of the USA and DO have water borders with other countries or foreign territories. [[User:SDSpivey|SDSpivey]] ([[User talk:SDSpivey|talk]]) 14:56, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
 :::There is an exclave of Great Britain on the big island of Hawaii (Captain Cook's grave) so we have a land boarder with Great Britain too.
 Was the lack of women in the fellowship because of "the cultural biases of the era in which the novels were written", i.e. a novel writing trope? It would it be more accurate to say [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_War_and_Middle-earth the series is influenced by Tolkien's personal experience of fighting on the front lines in World War I.] Women were [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_World_War_I an important part of the war effort,] but were not permitted to fight as soldiers on the front line. If you still want to count that as cultural bias, it would be the war-waging cultural biases of the 1900s/10s that left millions without their fathers, brothers and sons, rather than novel-writing cultural biases of the 1940s. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.162.77|172.70.162.77]] 19:56, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
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 :Rivendell is the sanctuary of the Elves. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.79.203|172.69.79.203]] 08:07, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
 ::Very important place in LoTR where Elrond lives. It is where the fellowship of the ring is born. So as real as Narnia... :-D --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 08:53, 22 April 2022 (UTC)