Talk:2635: Superintelligent AIs - Revision history

172.71.150.29: /* OpenAI Davinci completions of the three statements */ move 'em up

2022-08-24T07:17:19Z

‎OpenAI Davinci completions of the three statements: move 'em up

172.68.132.96: /* OpenAI Davinci completions of the three statements */ comment

2022-07-03T22:10:41Z

‎OpenAI Davinci completions of the three statements: comment

172.69.68.88: /* Discussion of AI philosophy, ethics, and related issues */

2022-06-28T15:06:50Z

‎Discussion of AI philosophy, ethics, and related issues

These Are Not The Comments You Are Looking For: Jurassuc Park and childe Randall.

2022-06-28T06:11:22Z

Jurassuc Park and childe Randall.

172.70.126.211: Undo revision 287720 by 162.158.159.87 (talk) Stop Bullying Me

2022-06-28T02:06:48Z

Undo revision 287720 by 162.158.159.87 (talk) Stop Bullying Me

162.158.159.87: Undo revision 287713 by 172.70.126.53 (talk) If there's an actual good reason for it to belong, I can't see it. No, sorry, it's going away again. With no net loss of useful discussion.

2022-06-28T00:26:07Z

Undo revision 287713 by 172.70.126.53 (talk) If there's an actual good reason for it to belong, I can't see it. No, sorry, it's going away again. With no net loss of useful discussion.

Rtanenbaum at 22:40, 27 June 2022

2022-06-27T22:40:20Z

172.70.126.53: Undo revision 287671 by 172.69.79.211 (talk) restore related topic that belongs here, and it's not my spelling

2022-06-27T20:29:02Z

Undo revision 287671 by 172.69.79.211 (talk) restore related topic that belongs here, and it's not my spelling

172.69.79.211: Undo revision 287663 by 172.70.38.41 (talk) You mean "extraneity", and literally mean that it doesn't belong here.

2022-06-25T20:23:25Z

Undo revision 287663 by 172.70.38.41 (talk) You mean "extraneity", and literally mean that it doesn't belong here.

172.70.38.41: restore related extranaity

2022-06-25T09:02:16Z

restore related extranaity

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	:Those are all thoughtful, and the 1st and 3rd are pretty funny. It might be worth mentioning them in the Explanation. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.132.96\|172.68.132.96]] 22:10, 3 July 2022 (UTC)		:Those are all thoughtful, and the 1st and 3rd are pretty funny. It might be worth mentioning them in the Explanation. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.132.96\|172.68.132.96]] 22:10, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
		+	::These need to be in the explanation. [[Special:Contributions/172.71.150.29\|172.71.150.29]] 07:17, 24 August 2022 (UTC)

	== Discussion of AI philosophy, ethics, and related issues ==		== Discussion of AI philosophy, ethics, and related issues ==

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	I like all of those very much, but I'm not sure they should be included in the explaination. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.166.235\|162.158.166.235]] 23:27, 22 June 2022 (UTC)		I like all of those very much, but I'm not sure they should be included in the explaination. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.166.235\|162.158.166.235]] 23:27, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
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		+	:Those are all thoughtful, and the 1st and 3rd are pretty funny. It might be worth mentioning them in the Explanation. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.132.96\|172.68.132.96]] 22:10, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

	== Discussion of AI philosophy, ethics, and related issues ==		== Discussion of AI philosophy, ethics, and related issues ==

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	:Has anyone created an AI chatbot which represents a base-level chatbot after the human equivalent of smoking pot? [[Special:Contributions/172.70.206.213\|172.70.206.213]] 22:30, 24 June 2022 (UTC)		:Has anyone created an AI chatbot which represents a base-level chatbot after the human equivalent of smoking pot? [[Special:Contributions/172.70.206.213\|172.70.206.213]] 22:30, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
	::Well, famously (or not, but I'll let you search for the details if you weren't aware of it), there was the conversation engineered directly between ELIZA (the classic 'therapist'/doctor chatbot) and PARRY (emulates a paranoid schizophrenic personality), 8n a zero-human conversation. The latter is arguably being close to what you're asking about. And there's been the best part of half a century of academic, commercial and hobbyist development since then, so no doubt there'd be many more serious and/or for-the-lols 'reskins' or indeed entirely regrown personalities, that may involve drugs (simulated or otherwise) as key influences... [[Special:Contributions/172.70.85.177\|172.70.85.177]] 01:30, 25 June 2022 (UTC)		::Well, famously (or not, but I'll let you search for the details if you weren't aware of it), there was the conversation engineered directly between ELIZA (the classic 'therapist'/doctor chatbot) and PARRY (emulates a paranoid schizophrenic personality), 8n a zero-human conversation. The latter is arguably being close to what you're asking about. And there's been the best part of half a century of academic, commercial and hobbyist development since then, so no doubt there'd be many more serious and/or for-the-lols 'reskins' or indeed entirely regrown personalities, that may involve drugs (simulated or otherwise) as key influences... [[Special:Contributions/172.70.85.177\|172.70.85.177]] 01:30, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
		+	::A video by DougDoug on Youtube (although making decisions about what video game characters would win in a fight rather than being used as a chatbot) shows that Inferkit may fit the bill (I don't know exactly how pot affects capability to converse, but I would imagine it would affect the actual conversation (rather than ability to produce coherent words with one's mouth) somewhat similarly to alchohol)

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 :Interesting that I found a long-standing typo in a past Explanation that got requoted, thanks to its inclusion. I could have [sic]ed it, I suppose, but I corrected both versions instead. And as long as LaMDA never explicitly repeated the error I don't think it matters much that I've changed the very thing we might imagine it could have been drawing upon for its Artifical Imagination. ;) [[Special:Contributions/141.101.99.32|141.101.99.32]] 11:40, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
 :My view is that Turing should be a good category. Trolley Problem, I'm not sure if there's been enough comics to warrant it? If more than 4 or 5, I'd say go for it. [[User:NiceGuy1|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1|talk]]) 05:35, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
 == OpenAI Davinci completions of the three statements ==

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		+	:Uh, thanks for sharing, I guess? [[Special:Contributions/172.70.211.52\|172.70.211.52]] 20:43, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
		+	::no problem, anytime [[Special:Contributions/172.70.230.53\|172.70.230.53]] 07:02, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

	I think "Nerdy fixations" is too wide a definition. The AIs in the comic are fixated on hypothetical ethics and AI problems (the Chinese Room experiment, the Turing Test, and the Trolley Problem), presumably because those are the problems that bother AI programmers. --Eitheladar [[Special:Contributions/172.68.50.119\|172.68.50.119]] 06:33, 21 June 2022 (UTC)		I think "Nerdy fixations" is too wide a definition. The AIs in the comic are fixated on hypothetical ethics and AI problems (the Chinese Room experiment, the Turing Test, and the Trolley Problem), presumably because those are the problems that bother AI programmers. --Eitheladar [[Special:Contributions/172.68.50.119\|172.68.50.119]] 06:33, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

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	I think "Nerdy fixations" is too wide a definition. The AIs in the comic are fixated on hypothetical ethics and AI problems (the Chinese Room experiment, the Turing Test, and the Trolley Problem), presumably because those are the problems that bother AI programmers. --Eitheladar [[Special:Contributions/172.68.50.119\|172.68.50.119]] 06:33, 21 June 2022 (UTC)		I think "Nerdy fixations" is too wide a definition. The AIs in the comic are fixated on hypothetical ethics and AI problems (the Chinese Room experiment, the Turing Test, and the Trolley Problem), presumably because those are the problems that bother AI programmers. --Eitheladar [[Special:Contributions/172.68.50.119\|172.68.50.119]] 06:33, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

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 I agree with the previous statement. The full dialogue between the mentioned Google worker and the AI can be found in https://cajundiscordian.medium.com/is-lamda-sentient-an-interview-ea64d916d917, published by one the Google employees.
 :This is the first time I might begin to agree that an AI has at least the appearance of sentience. The conversation is all connected instead of completely disjoint like most chatbots. They (non-LaMDA chatbots) never remember what was being discussed 5 seconds ago let alone a few to 10s of minutes prior.--[[Special:Contributions/172.70.134.141|172.70.134.141]] 14:53, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
 ::The questions we need to answer before being able to answer if LaMDA is sentient, are "Where do we draw the line between acting sentient and being sentient?" and "How do we determine that it is genuinely feeling emotion, and not just a glorified sentence database where the sentences have emotion in them?". The BBC article also brings up something that makes us ask what death feels like. LaMDA says that being turned of would be basically equivalent to death, but it wouldn't be able to tell that it's being turned off, because it's turned off. This is delving into philosophy, though, so I'll end my comment here. [[User:4D4850|4D4850]] ([[User talk:4D4850|talk]]) 18:05, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
 ::::There's absolutely no difference between turning GPT-3 or LaMDA off and leaving them on and simply not typing anything more to them. Somewhat relatedly, closing a Davinci session deletes all of its memory of what you had been talking to it about. (Is that ethical?) [[Special:Contributions/162.158.166.235|162.158.166.235]] 23:36, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

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		+	::no problem, anytime [[Special:Contributions/172.70.230.53\|172.70.230.53]] 07:02, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

	I think "Nerdy fixations" is too wide a definition. The AIs in the comic are fixated on hypothetical ethics and AI problems (the Chinese Room experiment, the Turing Test, and the Trolley Problem), presumably because those are the problems that bother AI programmers. --Eitheladar [[Special:Contributions/172.68.50.119\|172.68.50.119]] 06:33, 21 June 2022 (UTC)		I think "Nerdy fixations" is too wide a definition. The AIs in the comic are fixated on hypothetical ethics and AI problems (the Chinese Room experiment, the Turing Test, and the Trolley Problem), presumably because those are the problems that bother AI programmers. --Eitheladar [[Special:Contributions/172.68.50.119\|172.68.50.119]] 06:33, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

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	I think "Nerdy fixations" is too wide a definition. The AIs in the comic are fixated on hypothetical ethics and AI problems (the Chinese Room experiment, the Turing Test, and the Trolley Problem), presumably because those are the problems that bother AI programmers. --Eitheladar [[Special:Contributions/172.68.50.119\|172.68.50.119]] 06:33, 21 June 2022 (UTC)		I think "Nerdy fixations" is too wide a definition. The AIs in the comic are fixated on hypothetical ethics and AI problems (the Chinese Room experiment, the Turing Test, and the Trolley Problem), presumably because those are the problems that bother AI programmers. --Eitheladar [[Special:Contributions/172.68.50.119\|172.68.50.119]] 06:33, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

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		+	::no problem, anytime [[Special:Contributions/172.70.230.53\|172.70.230.53]] 07:02, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

	I think "Nerdy fixations" is too wide a definition. The AIs in the comic are fixated on hypothetical ethics and AI problems (the Chinese Room experiment, the Turing Test, and the Trolley Problem), presumably because those are the problems that bother AI programmers. --Eitheladar [[Special:Contributions/172.68.50.119\|172.68.50.119]] 06:33, 21 June 2022 (UTC)		I think "Nerdy fixations" is too wide a definition. The AIs in the comic are fixated on hypothetical ethics and AI problems (the Chinese Room experiment, the Turing Test, and the Trolley Problem), presumably because those are the problems that bother AI programmers. --Eitheladar [[Special:Contributions/172.68.50.119\|172.68.50.119]] 06:33, 21 June 2022 (UTC)