Talk:2658: Coffee Cup Holes - Revision history

Bb777 at 16:17, 4 April 2025

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Psychoticpotato: replying to a comment

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replying to a comment

172.70.111.40 at 17:22, 27 March 2024

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162.158.162.171 at 04:59, 25 September 2023

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Light rays at 23:04, 29 August 2022

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Light rays: answered a topology question

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answered a topology question

162.158.203.42: Normal people handle vs. hole

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Normal people handle vs. hole

Koskinoman at 18:47, 21 August 2022

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172.69.33.199: Reply

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172.70.85.5 at 08:52, 16 August 2022

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	The amount of "hole" VS "no hole" arguing in here is hilarious. The funniest part of the comic that I've come across is this site lmao. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.111.40\|172.70.111.40]] 17:22, 27 March 2024 (UTC)		The amount of "hole" VS "no hole" arguing in here is hilarious. The funniest part of the comic that I've come across is this site lmao. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.111.40\|172.70.111.40]] 17:22, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
	:That and all the "mug" VS "not mug" squabbling, lol. [[User:Psychoticpotato\|Psychoticpotato]] ([[User talk:Psychoticpotato\|talk]]) 13:45, 2 May 2024 (UTC)		:That and all the "mug" VS "not mug" squabbling, lol. [[User:Psychoticpotato\|Psychoticpotato]] ([[User talk:Psychoticpotato\|talk]]) 13:45, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
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		+	Me: one but im no topologist i just memorized it. --[[User:Bb777\|me, hi]] ([[User talk:Bb777\|talk]]) 16:17, 4 April 2025 (UTC)

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	The amount of "hole" VS "no hole" arguing in here is hilarious. The funniest part of the comic that I've come across is this site lmao. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.111.40\|172.70.111.40]] 17:22, 27 March 2024 (UTC)		The amount of "hole" VS "no hole" arguing in here is hilarious. The funniest part of the comic that I've come across is this site lmao. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.111.40\|172.70.111.40]] 17:22, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
		+	:That and all the "mug" VS "not mug" squabbling, lol. [[User:Psychoticpotato\|Psychoticpotato]] ([[User talk:Psychoticpotato\|talk]]) 13:45, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

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	I came here just to check that I wasn't insane in noticing the callous imprecision with which Randall has thrown about the term 'uncountable'. I may now return to the æther validated. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.162.171\|162.158.162.171]] 04:59, 25 September 2023 (UTC)		I came here just to check that I wasn't insane in noticing the callous imprecision with which Randall has thrown about the term 'uncountable'. I may now return to the æther validated. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.162.171\|162.158.162.171]] 04:59, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
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		+	The amount of "hole" VS "no hole" arguing in here is hilarious. The funniest part of the comic that I've come across is this site lmao. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.111.40\|172.70.111.40]] 17:22, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

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	“Most people would recognize that there is a hole through the handle.” No? If I had to imitate a normal person, I would never call the handle a hole. Reason: it is a handle. A handle is not a hole. You do not put fingers “through” it, you ''grab'' it. Therefore it is a handle, not a hole. — So much for my imagination of normal people. ;) --[[Special:Contributions/162.158.203.42\|162.158.203.42]] 20:23, 29 August 2022 (UTC)		“Most people would recognize that there is a hole through the handle.” No? If I had to imitate a normal person, I would never call the handle a hole. Reason: it is a handle. A handle is not a hole. You do not put fingers “through” it, you ''grab'' it. Therefore it is a handle, not a hole. — So much for my imagination of normal people. ;) --[[Special:Contributions/162.158.203.42\|162.158.203.42]] 20:23, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
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		+	I came here just to check that I wasn't insane in noticing the callous imprecision with which Randall has thrown about the term 'uncountable'. I may now return to the æther validated. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.162.171\|162.158.162.171]] 04:59, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

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 ::IDK - but I do not think so. It is just Randall's way of showing us that on our scale a coffee cup with a handle has exactly one hole. I'm sure he is on the topologist side, but think it is a stupid question to ask regular people. --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 10:50, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
 :::IDKE (E=either.) [[Special:Contributions/172.69.33.199|172.69.33.199]] 10:33, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
-::What you're looking for is the interior in the sense of the Jordan curve theorem {{w|Jordan curve theorem}} --[[User:Light rays|Light rays]] ([[User talk:Light rays|talk]]) 23:03, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
+::What you're looking for is the interior in the sense of the {{w|Jordan curve theorem}} --[[User:Light rays|Light rays]] ([[User talk:Light rays|talk]]) 23:03, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
 I think the philosopher explanation is a bit misleading? "Now" refers to the hypothetical scenario in which there is an extra hole. Natural language philosophy is often (always?) ambiguous, but philosophers generally accept that some interpretations are misreadings and apply the principle of charity. They are not known for "gotcha" trick questions. Rather, Hairbun's question is an example of an "intuition pump", a hypothetical scenario intended to test the reader's intuitions with regard to the concept. So in this case, we might expect the reader to answer that there are now n+1 holes, where n = the number of holes before we made a new hole. You could poll people with this question to get data on the popular understanding of "hole" and "cup" as used in everyday language. [[User:Wordnerd|Wordnerd]] ([[User talk:Wordnerd|talk]]) 01:56, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

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	I have broken plenty of cheap earthenware cups in my lifetime, and it seems to me the material invariably contains visible ''voids''! Do those count as "holes"?		I have broken plenty of cheap earthenware cups in my lifetime, and it seems to me the material invariably contains visible ''voids''! Do those count as "holes"?
	Also: dear chemist, the contents of a cup are ''not'' part of the cup! [[User:Koskinoman\|Koskinoman]] ([[User talk:Koskinoman\|talk]]) 18:47, 21 August 2022 (UTC)		Also: dear chemist, the contents of a cup are ''not'' part of the cup! [[User:Koskinoman\|Koskinoman]] ([[User talk:Koskinoman\|talk]]) 18:47, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
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		+	“Most people would recognize that there is a hole through the handle.” No? If I had to imitate a normal person, I would never call the handle a hole. Reason: it is a handle. A handle is not a hole. You do not put fingers “through” it, you ''grab'' it. Therefore it is a handle, not a hole. — So much for my imagination of normal people. ;) --[[Special:Contributions/162.158.203.42\|162.158.203.42]] 20:23, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

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	All this reminds me of the joke of sending the new guy to the stores to fetch a bag of holes. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.85.5\|172.70.85.5]] 08:52, 16 August 2022 (UTC)		All this reminds me of the joke of sending the new guy to the stores to fetch a bag of holes. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.85.5\|172.70.85.5]] 08:52, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
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		+	I have broken plenty of cheap earthenware cups in my lifetime, and it seems to me the material invariably contains visible ''voids''! Do those count as "holes"?
		+	Also: dear chemist, the contents of a cup are ''not'' part of the cup! [[User:Koskinoman\|Koskinoman]] ([[User talk:Koskinoman\|talk]]) 18:47, 21 August 2022 (UTC)

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	: Presumably that was a straw poll? [[Special:Contributions/172.70.162.77\|172.70.162.77]] 15:37, 15 August 2022 (UTC)		: Presumably that was a straw poll? [[Special:Contributions/172.70.162.77\|172.70.162.77]] 15:37, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
	:: How dare you [[Special:Contributions/172.70.85.221\|172.70.85.221]] 03:42, 16 August 2022 (UTC)		:: How dare you [[Special:Contributions/172.70.85.221\|172.70.85.221]] 03:42, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
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		+	All this reminds me of the joke of sending the new guy to the stores to fetch a bag of holes. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.85.5\|172.70.85.5]] 08:52, 16 August 2022 (UTC)