Talk:2664: Cloud Swirls - Revision history

172.70.91.78 at 11:36, 2 September 2022

2022-09-02T11:36:55Z

Miamiclay at 07:07, 31 August 2022

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172.70.178.107 at 10:43, 30 August 2022

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	Feels like this deserves a link to [https://cloudappreciationsociety.org/ the Cloud Appreciation Society] [[User:Miamiclay\|Miamiclay]] ([[User talk:Miamiclay\|talk]]) 07:07, 31 August 2022 (UTC)		Feels like this deserves a link to [https://cloudappreciationsociety.org/ the Cloud Appreciation Society] [[User:Miamiclay\|Miamiclay]] ([[User talk:Miamiclay\|talk]]) 07:07, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
		+	:Feels like you could replace the whole explanation with that link and it would be more explanatory. I understood the comic more before I tried to read the explanation than I do afterwards. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.91.78\|172.70.91.78]] 11:36, 2 September 2022 (UTC)

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	: Neither are falsifiable hypotheses, to begin with. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.206.213\|172.70.206.213]] 23:45, 29 August 2022 (UTC)		: Neither are falsifiable hypotheses, to begin with. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.206.213\|172.70.206.213]] 23:45, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
	: Yes; there is a difference. The first says nothing about where the motivations come from and the second is specific about it. If the Universe has motivations they could come from any number of unknown sources . . . . [[Special:Contributions/172.70.178.107\|172.70.178.107]] 10:43, 30 August 2022 (UTC)		: Yes; there is a difference. The first says nothing about where the motivations come from and the second is specific about it. If the Universe has motivations they could come from any number of unknown sources . . . . [[Special:Contributions/172.70.178.107\|172.70.178.107]] 10:43, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
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		+	Feels like this deserves a link to [https://cloudappreciationsociety.org/ the Cloud Appreciation Society] [[User:Miamiclay\|Miamiclay]] ([[User talk:Miamiclay\|talk]]) 07:07, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

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 This is the WORST explainxkcd "Explanation" I have ever seen. There is absolutely NOTHING in the comic that has ANYTHING to do with 3D videogames and any such ideas come COMPLETELY from out of the blue. SHEESH! [[Special:Contributions/172.70.130.171|172.70.130.171]] 10:40, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
-::Agreed. The comic is about planets and clouds, there is nothing about simulations or rendering at all. The last panel is a hint at anthropomorphizing (if that's a word) the universe for humour, as if it just creates neat clouds for fun. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.91.128|172.70.91.128]] 07:18, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
+:Agreed. The comic is about planets and clouds, there is nothing about simulations or rendering at all. The last panel is a hint at anthropomorphizing (if that's a word) the universe for humour, as if it just creates neat clouds for fun. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.91.128|172.70.91.128]] 07:18, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
 As for the "Further consideration" section, it's a whole big pile of . . . something . . . that belongs somewhere else but not here. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.131.170|172.70.131.170]] 10:46, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

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	Is there a difference between ascribing motivations to the Universe and positing the purpose of a constructed simulation of our reality? [[Special:Contributions/172.70.211.146\|172.70.211.146]] 23:37, 29 August 2022 (UTC)		Is there a difference between ascribing motivations to the Universe and positing the purpose of a constructed simulation of our reality? [[Special:Contributions/172.70.211.146\|172.70.211.146]] 23:37, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
	: Neither are falsifiable hypotheses, to begin with. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.206.213\|172.70.206.213]] 23:45, 29 August 2022 (UTC)		: Neither are falsifiable hypotheses, to begin with. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.206.213\|172.70.206.213]] 23:45, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
		+	: Yes; there is a difference. The first says nothing about where the motivations come from and the second is specific about it. If the Universe has motivations they could come from any number of unknown sources . . . . [[Special:Contributions/172.70.178.107\|172.70.178.107]] 10:43, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

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	This is the WORST explainxkcd "Explanation" I have ever seen. There is absolutely NOTHING in the comic that has ANYTHING to do with 3D videogames and any such ideas come COMPLETELY from out of the blue. SHEESH! [[Special:Contributions/172.70.130.171\|172.70.130.171]] 10:40, 29 August 2022 (UTC)		This is the WORST explainxkcd "Explanation" I have ever seen. There is absolutely NOTHING in the comic that has ANYTHING to do with 3D videogames and any such ideas come COMPLETELY from out of the blue. SHEESH! [[Special:Contributions/172.70.130.171\|172.70.130.171]] 10:40, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
		+	::Agreed. The comic is about planets and clouds, there is nothing about simulations or rendering at all. The last panel is a hint at anthropomorphizing (if that's a word) the universe for humour, as if it just creates neat clouds for fun. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.91.128\|172.70.91.128]] 07:18, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

	As for the "Further consideration" section, it's a whole big pile of . . . something . . . that belongs somewhere else but not here. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.131.170\|172.70.131.170]] 10:46, 29 August 2022 (UTC)		As for the "Further consideration" section, it's a whole big pile of . . . something . . . that belongs somewhere else but not here. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.131.170\|172.70.131.170]] 10:46, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

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 As for the "Further consideration" section, it's a whole big pile of . . . something . . . that belongs somewhere else but not here. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.131.170|172.70.131.170]] 10:46, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
 Is there a difference between ascribing motivations to the Universe and positing the purpose of a constructed simulation of our reality? [[Special:Contributions/172.70.211.146|172.70.211.146]] 23:37, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
 : Neither are falsifiable hypotheses, to begin with. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.206.213|172.70.206.213]] 23:45, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

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	Is there a difference between ascribing motivations to the Universe and positing the purpose of a constructed simulation of our reality? [[Special:Contributions/172.70.211.146\|172.70.211.146]] 23:37, 29 August 2022 (UTC)		Is there a difference between ascribing motivations to the Universe and positing the purpose of a constructed simulation of our reality? [[Special:Contributions/172.70.211.146\|172.70.211.146]] 23:37, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
		+	: Neither are falsifiable hypotheses, to begin with. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.206.213\|172.70.206.213]] 23:45, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

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	As for the "Further consideration" section, it's a whole big pile of . . . something . . . that belongs somewhere else but not here. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.131.170\|172.70.131.170]] 10:46, 29 August 2022 (UTC)		As for the "Further consideration" section, it's a whole big pile of . . . something . . . that belongs somewhere else but not here. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.131.170\|172.70.131.170]] 10:46, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
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		+	Is there a difference between ascribing motivations to the Universe and positing the purpose of a constructed simulation of our reality? [[Special:Contributions/172.70.211.146\|172.70.211.146]] 23:37, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

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 [[Special:Contributions/162.158.166.173|162.158.166.173]] 03:59, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
 ::I was surprised to see that removed. It looked ''exactly'' like the explanation for the TT, to me. The alternative seems to lack so much of the implied rationale. But maybe the simulation of this site provided to my brain is different from the simulation of this site provided to yours (assuming you exist, and you aren't a confounding factor included 8n my whole simulation of what I might or might not be experiencing).... [[Special:Contributions/172.70.91.78|172.70.91.78]]
-:::It assumes that different atmospheric compositions could produce cooler clouds, which is tautological given the subjectivity of the criterion, but questionable from the perspective of mean options over a wide population such as the readership. The current two sentence explanation of the title text sidesteps that issue, and is much easier and faster to read. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.214.183|172.70.214.183]] 20:54, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
+:::It assumes that different atmospheric compositions could produce cooler clouds, which is tautological given the subjectivity of the criterion, but questionable from the perspective of mean opinions over a wide population such as the readership. The current two sentence explanation of the title text sidesteps that issue, and is much easier and faster to read. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.214.183|172.70.214.183]] 20:54, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
 I was reminded by this strip of the fact that THIS planet, the only planet in our solar system where the natural satellite has the correct relationship with the sun to occasionally block it out in an extremely cool way (with the 'diamond ring' corona effect), is also the only planet (so far as we know) where such , solar eclipses can be APPRECIATED...