Talk:2683: Fan Theories - Revision history

141.101.99.134 at 15:14, 30 July 2023

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172.68.174.226 at 04:10, 30 July 2023

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AndroidTheLucario at 03:59, 6 May 2023

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172.71.222.222: I think the Megan looks more like Danish

2023-02-13T15:55:39Z

I think the Megan looks more like Danish

172.69.22.13 at 07:33, 14 October 2022

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Elektrizikekswerk at 07:26, 14 October 2022

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197.234.243.26: question/hypothesis

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question/hypothesis

172.70.91.58 at 13:45, 13 October 2022

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172.69.22.185: Edit

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	Sorry if I'm a bit late, but I'd like to apologise on behalf of the "furry" vandals. [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MySpeciesDothProtestTooMuch My Species Doth Protest Too Much]. I don't believe furries are "better than the rest of humanity combined." [[User:AndroidTheLucario\|Your favorite aura doggo]] ([[User talk:AndroidTheLucario\|talk]]) 03:59, 6 May 2023 (UTC)		Sorry if I'm a bit late, but I'd like to apologise on behalf of the "furry" vandals. [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MySpeciesDothProtestTooMuch My Species Doth Protest Too Much]. I don't believe furries are "better than the rest of humanity combined." [[User:AndroidTheLucario\|Your favorite aura doggo]] ([[User talk:AndroidTheLucario\|talk]]) 03:59, 6 May 2023 (UTC)

−	Is there any fandom other than the universe fandom that makes fan theories that directly contradict the canon?	+	Is there any fandom other than the universe fandom that makes fan theories that directly contradict the canon? {{unsigned ip\|172.68.174.226\|04:10, 30 July 2023}}
		+	:I think that's the norm. There's usually something that a fan disagrees with that official canon says, when they write their own version. Whether it's Snape/Potter slash (or just about any other fan-shipping event, slash or otherwise) or whether the vast majority of Gravity was an anoxic dream sequence (not just the bit where she snaps out of it, but potentially everything from the very first crisis onwards) or, my own personal fanon, that the Patrician in The Colour Of Magic ''was'' Vetinari (through Pterry said otherwise, and normally I'd happily take that as gospel). The fan-fiction must turn upon something not in the source, or it'd just be a retelling, and often it's something reinterpretted in order to support the particular conceit of the fan-scenario. Could be minor or major; significant diversion from the 'authorised' material or just a whole undocumented/unaccounted-for side-adventure; something other fans would support or such a twisted take on things that it's sidelined by others. But contradictions are easy. Perhaps harder in ''some'' canons, where self-contradictions are already muddying the waters, ironically. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.99.134\|141.101.99.134]] 15:14, 30 July 2023 (UTC)

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	Sorry if I'm a bit late, but I'd like to apologise on behalf of the "furry" vandals. [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MySpeciesDothProtestTooMuch My Species Doth Protest Too Much]. I don't believe furries are "better than the rest of humanity combined." [[User:AndroidTheLucario\|Your favorite aura doggo]] ([[User talk:AndroidTheLucario\|talk]]) 03:59, 6 May 2023 (UTC)		Sorry if I'm a bit late, but I'd like to apologise on behalf of the "furry" vandals. [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MySpeciesDothProtestTooMuch My Species Doth Protest Too Much]. I don't believe furries are "better than the rest of humanity combined." [[User:AndroidTheLucario\|Your favorite aura doggo]] ([[User talk:AndroidTheLucario\|talk]]) 03:59, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
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	Does anyone else think that the astronomer in the the comic looks more like Danish than Megan? I guess her attitude and demeanor is more akin to a standard Megan, but idk. 15:55, 13 February 2023 (UTC)~ 3:55, 13 Feb 2023 (UTC)		Does anyone else think that the astronomer in the the comic looks more like Danish than Megan? I guess her attitude and demeanor is more akin to a standard Megan, but idk. 15:55, 13 February 2023 (UTC)~ 3:55, 13 Feb 2023 (UTC)
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		+	Sorry if I'm a bit late, but I'd like to apologise on behalf of the "furry" vandals. [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MySpeciesDothProtestTooMuch My Species Doth Protest Too Much]. I don't believe furries are "better than the rest of humanity combined." [[User:AndroidTheLucario\|Your favorite aura doggo]] ([[User talk:AndroidTheLucario\|talk]]) 03:59, 6 May 2023 (UTC)

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	: God? (I'm not intending to ignite a theological debate here) [[User:Elektrizikekswerk\|Elektrizikekswerk]] ([[User talk:Elektrizikekswerk\|talk]]) 07:26, 14 October 2022 (UTC)		: God? (I'm not intending to ignite a theological debate here) [[User:Elektrizikekswerk\|Elektrizikekswerk]] ([[User talk:Elektrizikekswerk\|talk]]) 07:26, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
	::God? (I'm intending to ignite a theological debate here) [[User:\|User:]] ([[User talk:\|talk]]) 11:59, 14 October 2022 (UTC)		::God? (I'm intending to ignite a theological debate here) [[User:\|User:]] ([[User talk:\|talk]]) 11:59, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
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		+	Does anyone else think that the astronomer in the the comic looks more like Danish than Megan? I guess her attitude and demeanor is more akin to a standard Megan, but idk. 15:55, 13 February 2023 (UTC)~ 3:55, 13 Feb 2023 (UTC)

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	By referring to scientists as fans, could Cueball be suggesting an author exists? [[Special:Contributions/197.234.243.26\|197.234.243.26]] 14:45, 13 October 2022 (UTC)		By referring to scientists as fans, could Cueball be suggesting an author exists? [[Special:Contributions/197.234.243.26\|197.234.243.26]] 14:45, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
	: God? (I'm not intending to ignite a theological debate here) [[User:Elektrizikekswerk\|Elektrizikekswerk]] ([[User talk:Elektrizikekswerk\|talk]]) 07:26, 14 October 2022 (UTC)		: God? (I'm not intending to ignite a theological debate here) [[User:Elektrizikekswerk\|Elektrizikekswerk]] ([[User talk:Elektrizikekswerk\|talk]]) 07:26, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
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	By referring to scientists as fans, could Cueball be suggesting an author exists? [[Special:Contributions/197.234.243.26\|197.234.243.26]] 14:45, 13 October 2022 (UTC)		By referring to scientists as fans, could Cueball be suggesting an author exists? [[Special:Contributions/197.234.243.26\|197.234.243.26]] 14:45, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
		+	: God? (I'm not intending to ignite a theological debate here) [[User:Elektrizikekswerk\|Elektrizikekswerk]] ([[User talk:Elektrizikekswerk\|talk]]) 07:26, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

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	It feels like the current explanation is missing a clear exposition of the key comparison between scientific research and fan theorising - that they both (a) start from a canonical body of work, (b) build on top of that with experimental theses that are then 'peer tested', and (c) may then in time end up becoming a part of the canon themselves. I can't quite work that up into a form that would flow nicely in the explanation, though. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.91.58\|172.70.91.58]] 13:45, 13 October 2022 (UTC)		It feels like the current explanation is missing a clear exposition of the key comparison between scientific research and fan theorising - that they both (a) start from a canonical body of work, (b) build on top of that with experimental theses that are then 'peer tested', and (c) may then in time end up becoming a part of the canon themselves. I can't quite work that up into a form that would flow nicely in the explanation, though. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.91.58\|172.70.91.58]] 13:45, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
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		+	By referring to scientists as fans, could Cueball be suggesting an author exists? [[Special:Contributions/197.234.243.26\|197.234.243.26]] 14:45, 13 October 2022 (UTC)

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	What does "franchise with an established fandom" mean? Could you guys please try to use a relatively simple vocabulary and define necessary jargon or specialized language, such as with link(s)? [[Special:Contributions/172.69.22.163\|172.69.22.163]] 19:46, 12 October 2022 (UTC)		What does "franchise with an established fandom" mean? Could you guys please try to use a relatively simple vocabulary and define necessary jargon or specialized language, such as with link(s)? [[Special:Contributions/172.69.22.163\|172.69.22.163]] 19:46, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
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		+	It feels like the current explanation is missing a clear exposition of the key comparison between scientific research and fan theorising - that they both (a) start from a canonical body of work, (b) build on top of that with experimental theses that are then 'peer tested', and (c) may then in time end up becoming a part of the canon themselves. I can't quite work that up into a form that would flow nicely in the explanation, though. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.91.58\|172.70.91.58]] 13:45, 13 October 2022 (UTC)

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 The inclusion of Kuhn's work as part of the explanation seems odd. This may be because I don't know his work and thus don't see how this is connected to the comic and especially how merely mentioning it actually helps explaining the comic. I removed that part unless someone comes up with some actual explanation why this is relevant. [[User:Elektrizikekswerk|Elektrizikekswerk]] ([[User talk:Elektrizikekswerk|talk]]) 11:12, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
-:Kuhn does discuss paradigms as effectively similar to my simple understanding of fan theories, but I don't understand the "franchise" terminology means. I guess the point was most professional scientists wouldn't be particularly annoyed by the comparison, because it's not novel or really unusual as a concept. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.22.185|172.69.22.185]] 19:51, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
+:Kuhn does discuss paradigms as effectively similar to my simple understanding of fan theories, but I don't understand what the "franchise" terminology means. I can't imagine it would make much of a difference. I guess the point was most professional scientists wouldn't be particularly annoyed by the comparison, because it's not novel or really unusual as a concept. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.22.185|172.69.22.185]] 19:51, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
 this suggests a "how to annoy" category w/ [[2036]] and [[2654]] (and possibly [[2118]], though the "expert shouting at cueball" part is absent) --[[Special:Contributions/172.70.110.231|172.70.110.231]] 13:54, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
 What does "franchise with an established fandom" mean? Could you guys please try to use a relatively simple vocabulary and define necessary jargon or specialized language, such as with link(s)? [[Special:Contributions/172.69.22.163|172.69.22.163]] 19:46, 12 October 2022 (UTC)