Talk:2690: Cool S - Revision history

172.69.79.140: /* Idea for society */ new section

2023-11-17T13:41:43Z

‎Idea for society: new section

172.70.85.25 at 17:45, 28 October 2022

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172.70.162.155 at 15:44, 28 October 2022

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Nutster: Grammar fix.

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Grammar fix.

Nutster: Experimental evidence.

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Experimental evidence.

141.101.77.62 at 06:51, 27 October 2022

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MarquisOfCarrabass at 05:09, 27 October 2022

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172.69.79.163 at 23:38, 26 October 2022

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MAP: Comment on expanding the transcript.

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Comment on expanding the transcript.

Docpelletier at 21:11, 26 October 2022

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	::This is a trick comment - when you take apart a pen the spring will invariably fly off somewhere never to be found again, so you won't be able to examine it.[[Special:Contributions/172.70.162.155\|172.70.162.155]] 15:44, 28 October 2022 (UTC)		::This is a trick comment - when you take apart a pen the spring will invariably fly off somewhere never to be found again, so you won't be able to examine it.[[Special:Contributions/172.70.162.155\|172.70.162.155]] 15:44, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
	:Actually, a spiral can wind differently depending upon how you view it (c.f. a watch-spring or a particular type of rafia tablemat). But not a helix, such as a pen spring or DNA, which is what we have here. That indeed has constant chirality; without deliberate deformation, either pushing it through itself or unwrapping and allowing it to rewrap in the opposite direction of coiling, as anyone trying to rationalise a badly tangled telephone handest cable of years past (or similar) will have realised. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.85.25\|172.70.85.25]] 17:45, 28 October 2022 (UTC)		:Actually, a spiral can wind differently depending upon how you view it (c.f. a watch-spring or a particular type of rafia tablemat). But not a helix, such as a pen spring or DNA, which is what we have here. That indeed has constant chirality; without deliberate deformation, either pushing it through itself or unwrapping and allowing it to rewrap in the opposite direction of coiling, as anyone trying to rationalise a badly tangled telephone handest cable of years past (or similar) will have realised. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.85.25\|172.70.85.25]] 17:45, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
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		+	== Idea for society ==
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		+	What if we dub Franklin as the ''sole'' discoverer of DNA, just to balance things out?
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		+	--[[Special:Contributions/172.69.79.140\|172.69.79.140]] 13:41, 17 November 2023 (UTC)

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	::The spring in my pen twists to the right as it goes down, whichever end I hold upward. [[User:Nutster\|Nutster]] ([[User talk:Nutster\|talk]]) 13:42, 27 October 2022 (UTC)		::The spring in my pen twists to the right as it goes down, whichever end I hold upward. [[User:Nutster\|Nutster]] ([[User talk:Nutster\|talk]]) 13:42, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
	::This is a trick comment - when you take apart a pen the spring will invariably fly off somewhere never to be found again, so you won't be able to examine it.[[Special:Contributions/172.70.162.155\|172.70.162.155]] 15:44, 28 October 2022 (UTC)		::This is a trick comment - when you take apart a pen the spring will invariably fly off somewhere never to be found again, so you won't be able to examine it.[[Special:Contributions/172.70.162.155\|172.70.162.155]] 15:44, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
		+	:Actually, a spiral can wind differently depending upon how you view it (c.f. a watch-spring or a particular type of rafia tablemat). But not a helix, such as a pen spring or DNA, which is what we have here. That indeed has constant chirality; without deliberate deformation, either pushing it through itself or unwrapping and allowing it to rewrap in the opposite direction of coiling, as anyone trying to rationalise a badly tangled telephone handest cable of years past (or similar) will have realised. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.85.25\|172.70.85.25]] 17:45, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

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	:Except it doesn't. Take apart your nearest pen and try looking at the spring inside from either end, and you'll see. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.77.62\|141.101.77.62]] 06:51, 27 October 2022 (UTC)		:Except it doesn't. Take apart your nearest pen and try looking at the spring inside from either end, and you'll see. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.77.62\|141.101.77.62]] 06:51, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
	::The spring in my pen twists to the right as it goes down, whichever end I hold upward. [[User:Nutster\|Nutster]] ([[User talk:Nutster\|talk]]) 13:42, 27 October 2022 (UTC)		::The spring in my pen twists to the right as it goes down, whichever end I hold upward. [[User:Nutster\|Nutster]] ([[User talk:Nutster\|talk]]) 13:42, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
		+	::This is a trick comment - when you take apart a pen the spring will invariably fly off somewhere never to be found again, so you won't be able to examine it.[[Special:Contributions/172.70.162.155\|172.70.162.155]] 15:44, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

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 I think we need a clarification. Whether a spiral winds clockwise or widdershins when you look at it end-on depends which end you are looking at.[[User:MarquisOfCarrabass|MarquisOfCarrabass]] ([[User talk:MarquisOfCarrabass|talk]]) 05:09, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
 :Except it doesn't. Take apart your nearest pen and try looking at the spring inside from either end, and you'll see. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.77.62|141.101.77.62]] 06:51, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
-::The spring in my pen twists to right as it goes down, whichever end I hold upward.  [[User:Nutster|Nutster]] ([[User talk:Nutster|talk]]) 13:42, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
+::The spring in my pen twists to the right as it goes down, whichever end I hold upward.  [[User:Nutster|Nutster]] ([[User talk:Nutster|talk]]) 13:42, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

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	I think we need a clarification. Whether a spiral winds clockwise or widdershins when you look at it end-on depends which end you are looking at.[[User:MarquisOfCarrabass\|MarquisOfCarrabass]] ([[User talk:MarquisOfCarrabass\|talk]]) 05:09, 27 October 2022 (UTC)		I think we need a clarification. Whether a spiral winds clockwise or widdershins when you look at it end-on depends which end you are looking at.[[User:MarquisOfCarrabass\|MarquisOfCarrabass]] ([[User talk:MarquisOfCarrabass\|talk]]) 05:09, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
	:Except it doesn't. Take apart your nearest pen and try looking at the spring inside from either end, and you'll see. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.77.62\|141.101.77.62]] 06:51, 27 October 2022 (UTC)		:Except it doesn't. Take apart your nearest pen and try looking at the spring inside from either end, and you'll see. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.77.62\|141.101.77.62]] 06:51, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
		+	::The spring in my pen twists to right as it goes down, whichever end I hold upward. [[User:Nutster\|Nutster]] ([[User talk:Nutster\|talk]]) 13:42, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

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	I think we need a clarification. Whether a spiral winds clockwise or widdershins when you look at it end-on depends which end you are looking at.[[User:MarquisOfCarrabass\|MarquisOfCarrabass]] ([[User talk:MarquisOfCarrabass\|talk]]) 05:09, 27 October 2022 (UTC)		I think we need a clarification. Whether a spiral winds clockwise or widdershins when you look at it end-on depends which end you are looking at.[[User:MarquisOfCarrabass\|MarquisOfCarrabass]] ([[User talk:MarquisOfCarrabass\|talk]]) 05:09, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
		+	:Except it doesn't. Take apart your nearest pen and try looking at the spring inside from either end, and you'll see. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.77.62\|141.101.77.62]] 06:51, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

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	I think there's more to the controversy over Rosalind Franklin than just being omitted from the Nobel Prize. The significance of her contribution was downplayed in the media in general. Practically everyone has heard of Watson and Crick, but relatively few lay people have heard of Franklin. Although I guess that can be considered a natural result of them receiving the Nobel. [[User:Barmar\|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar\|talk]]) 20:08, 26 October 2022 (UTC)		I think there's more to the controversy over Rosalind Franklin than just being omitted from the Nobel Prize. The significance of her contribution was downplayed in the media in general. Practically everyone has heard of Watson and Crick, but relatively few lay people have heard of Franklin. Although I guess that can be considered a natural result of them receiving the Nobel. [[User:Barmar\|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar\|talk]]) 20:08, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
	:She's at least getting (assuming it can be rearranged) a {{w\|Rosalind Franklin (rover)\|Mars rover}}... I think C&W aren't getting anything like that, whatever past supplemental honours they got in response/parallel to their Nobelisations... [[Special:Contributions/172.71.186.163\|172.71.186.163]] 20:52, 26 October 2022 (UTC)		:She's at least getting (assuming it can be rearranged) a {{w\|Rosalind Franklin (rover)\|Mars rover}}... I think C&W aren't getting anything like that, whatever past supplemental honours they got in response/parallel to their Nobelisations... [[Special:Contributions/172.71.186.163\|172.71.186.163]] 20:52, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
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		+	I think we need a clarification. Whether a spiral winds clockwise or widdershins when you look at it end-on depends which end you are looking at.[[User:MarquisOfCarrabass\|MarquisOfCarrabass]] ([[User talk:MarquisOfCarrabass\|talk]]) 05:09, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

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 :Correct. The transcript is of the image only. —[[User:While False|While False]] ([[User:While False/explain xkcd museum|'''museum''']] | [[User talk:While False|talk]] | [[special:Contributions/While_False|contributions]] | [[special:Log/While_False|logs]] | [[Special:UserRights/While_False|rights]]) 19:23, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
 : Should we try a more descriptive transcript?  I could write up a description, but wasn't sure if I should. [[User:MAP|MAP]] ([[User talk:MAP|talk]]) 23:00, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
 Not giving her the Prize because she was already dead is still discrimination. Didn't Pratchett even had word for that? -- [[User:Hkmaly|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly|talk]]) 19:29, 26 October 2022 (UTC)

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 : To expand on Bumpf's comment -- DNA is typically right-handed, so it was most probably derived from the "cool Z".  (Yes, Z-DNA (q.v.) is left-handed -- perhaps leading to Randall's presentation) [[Special:Contributions/172.70.178.221|172.70.178.221]] 17:04, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
 : I mean, I've never seen on so angular before either. 17:15, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
 This was actually a rediscovery, Celtic decorators had discovered it before. [[User:Fabian42|Fabian42]] ([[User talk:Fabian42|talk]]) 18:56, 26 October 2022 (UTC)