Talk:2750: Flatten the Planets - Revision history

162.158.74.49: /* NASA's Response */

2024-02-28T10:10:20Z

‎NASA's Response

Wertercatt: /* NASA's Response */

2024-02-22T18:23:36Z

‎NASA's Response

Wertercatt: /* NASA's Response */ new section

2024-02-22T18:23:08Z

‎NASA's Response: new section

Dansiman: added funny citation needed tag

2023-03-20T20:43:14Z

added funny citation needed tag

172.70.114.88 at 17:55, 20 March 2023

2023-03-20T17:55:18Z

Xkcdjerry: Added calcuation of bearing size, Randall seems to be serious about astroid belt bearings

2023-03-18T12:48:25Z

Added calcuation of bearing size, Randall seems to be serious about astroid belt bearings

172.68.210.11: Explain replacement of 'roller piin' with 'rolling pin' in explanation.

2023-03-17T23:53:20Z

Explain replacement of 'roller piin' with 'rolling pin' in explanation.

172.70.111.75 at 16:47, 17 March 2023

2023-03-17T16:47:53Z

172.71.178.64 at 09:44, 17 March 2023

2023-03-17T09:44:55Z

Cuvtixo: replaced == Death's End == Sorry!

2023-03-16T22:42:44Z

replaced == Death's End == Sorry!

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	Randall posted on Bluesky that he received a reply from NASA regarding this comic. They made some good jokes back at him, should this be added to the explanation? https://bsky.app/profile/xkcd.com/post/3klz7zr6s7i2x --[[User:Wertercatt\|Wertercatt]] ([[User talk:Wertercatt\|talk]]) 18:23, 22 February 2024 (UTC)		Randall posted on Bluesky that he received a reply from NASA regarding this comic. They made some good jokes back at him, should this be added to the explanation? https://bsky.app/profile/xkcd.com/post/3klz7zr6s7i2x --[[User:Wertercatt\|Wertercatt]] ([[User talk:Wertercatt\|talk]]) 18:23, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
		+	: bro has bsky? --[[Special:Contributions/162.158.74.49\|162.158.74.49]] 10:10, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

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−	Randall posted on Bluesky that he received a reply from NASA regarding this comic. They made some good jokes back at him, should this be added to the explanation? https://bsky.app/profile/xkcd.com/post/3klz7zr6s7i2x	+	Randall posted on Bluesky that he received a reply from NASA regarding this comic. They made some good jokes back at him, should this be added to the explanation? https://bsky.app/profile/xkcd.com/post/3klz7zr6s7i2x --[[User:Wertercatt\|Wertercatt]] ([[User talk:Wertercatt\|talk]]) 18:23, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

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	I did an estmate of max 210m for the bearing sizes which is clearly enough even if I was off by a factor of a thousand, the proceedings are [https://0paste.com/448864 here] if someone wants to put it into the main article or check for errors. [[User:Xkcdjerry\|Xkcdjerry]] ([[User talk:Xkcdjerry\|talk]]) 12:48, 18 March 2023 (UTC)		I did an estmate of max 210m for the bearing sizes which is clearly enough even if I was off by a factor of a thousand, the proceedings are [https://0paste.com/448864 here] if someone wants to put it into the main article or check for errors. [[User:Xkcdjerry\|Xkcdjerry]] ([[User talk:Xkcdjerry\|talk]]) 12:48, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
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		+	Randall posted on Bluesky that he received a reply from NASA regarding this comic. They made some good jokes back at him, should this be added to the explanation? https://bsky.app/profile/xkcd.com/post/3klz7zr6s7i2x

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 :Ahh yes, the classic cubic-bearing. Just what we need in this planetary ring system we've created. Since Randall elects to eschew spheres for the planets, let's go all in and refuse them for the bearings as well. Bravo. ;-) [[User:Iggynelix|Iggynelix]] ([[User talk:Iggynelix|talk]]) 12:40-12:47, 16 March 2023 (UTC) <!-- re'signed' to reflect how it now has separation from the previously following continuation -->
 ::''I just want to say that this line of logic ''really'' tickled my funnybone. Well done! ...I've got no other valid contribution at this time, just that.'' [[Special:Contributions/172.70.90.101|172.70.90.101]] 13:11, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
-::That was to further overestimate the material needed, since a cube is more mass than a sphere. --[[User:Purah126|Purah126]] ([[User talk:Purah126|talk]]) 15:09, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
+::That was to further overestimate the material needed, since a cube is more mass than a sphere. {{cn}} --[[User:Purah126|Purah126]] ([[User talk:Purah126|talk]]) 15:09, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
 Did anyone notice that this came out just after pi-day? [[User:Iggynelix|Iggynelix]] ([[User talk:Iggynelix|talk]]) 12:40, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
 : That's really crusty of Randall. It does explain the rolling pin. He probably also knows, and chooses (for cause) not to disclose, that pronunciation of the Greek letter as "pie" [https://www.dude-n-dude.com/2023/03/14/amoebas-lorica-14-march-icymi/ doesn't conform to modern language usage]. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.90.232|162.158.90.232]] 17:01, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

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 :: for the same reasons outlined in the link, beta and phi are also pronounced differently, and I'm pretty sure zeta, eta, theta, xi and chi are too [[Special:Contributions/172.71.26.105|172.71.26.105]] 22:03, 16 March 2023 (UTC)Bumpf
 :::Although all these terms were deliberately taken from ancient Greek, because that's when they were first proposed! I believe Pi was devised around 250 BC by the Greek mathematician Archimedes, and is sometimes called Archimedes' Constant. There is no reason to use more modern pronunciation, except to make jokes about "Pee Day", I suppose. Why are we talking of hypotheticals of Randall's knowledge and secret humor, anyways? Do we need such an elaborate justification to quote and link to this dude, "Amoebe"? Please wait til next time, next year![[User:Cuvtixo|Cuvtixo]] ([[User talk:Cuvtixo|talk]]) 22:40, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
 I don't know if there's a non spoilery-way to mention that there are similar ideas explored in the novel ''Death's End'' by Liu Cixin. [[User:Nedlum|Nedlum]] ([[User talk:Nedlum|talk]]) 13:22, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

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	I've replaced 'roller pin' with 'rolling pin' because a quick online search indicates that a roller pin facilitates relative motion, linear or rotary, between objects whereas a rolling pin is used to make a mass of material thinner, especially in culinary contexts.		I've replaced 'roller pin' with 'rolling pin' because a quick online search indicates that a roller pin facilitates relative motion, linear or rotary, between objects whereas a rolling pin is used to make a mass of material thinner, especially in culinary contexts.
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		+	I did an estmate of max 210m for the bearing sizes which is clearly enough even if I was off by a factor of a thousand, the proceedings are [https://0paste.com/448864 here] if someone wants to put it into the main article or check for errors. [[User:Xkcdjerry\|Xkcdjerry]] ([[User talk:Xkcdjerry\|talk]]) 12:48, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

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	Is there an element of Pluto discourse here? IIRC, one of the complaints about the "clearing your orbit" was that different metrics would 'punish' (for those who view the reclassification as a punishment) objects orbiting at a greater distance. I find the distribution of thicknesses really intriguing, and I wonder how the various dwarf planets at different parts of the system would stack up, thickness-wise. [newbyBoredAtWork]		Is there an element of Pluto discourse here? IIRC, one of the complaints about the "clearing your orbit" was that different metrics would 'punish' (for those who view the reclassification as a punishment) objects orbiting at a greater distance. I find the distribution of thicknesses really intriguing, and I wonder how the various dwarf planets at different parts of the system would stack up, thickness-wise. [newbyBoredAtWork]
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		+	I've replaced 'roller pin' with 'rolling pin' because a quick online search indicates that a roller pin facilitates relative motion, linear or rotary, between objects whereas a rolling pin is used to make a mass of material thinner, especially in culinary contexts.

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	:Presumably for the gas giants to hold a disc shape, the gas would have to be encased in hollow discs made out of the solid cores. How thick would the walls be? What if we used thinner cavities to store the inner planets' atmospheres as well? And how much would the core material decompress as a result of not being a core? [[User:Promethean\|Promethean]] ([[User talk:Promethean\|talk]]) 18:18, 16 March 2023 (UTC)		:Presumably for the gas giants to hold a disc shape, the gas would have to be encased in hollow discs made out of the solid cores. How thick would the walls be? What if we used thinner cavities to store the inner planets' atmospheres as well? And how much would the core material decompress as a result of not being a core? [[User:Promethean\|Promethean]] ([[User talk:Promethean\|talk]]) 18:18, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
	::isn't it hypothesized that they're "solid cores" are only solid because of the immense pressures? Like isn't much of Jupiter's inner core (or outer-inner core) metallic helium or something? My reading about this is outdated, but it's mentioned in the explanation that it requires "tensile strength beyond what is likely physically possible for any known form of matter." Actually I'm a little annoyed that this statement doesn't get "citation needed", rather than "planets of our solar system would not be suitable for this endeavor", because obviously if the first statement is true, the second needs no citation if the first is true, because no planet is made of unknown forms of matter. Correct?" [[User:Cuvtixo\|Cuvtixo]] ([[User talk:Cuvtixo\|talk]]) 22:19, 16 March 2023 (UTC)		::isn't it hypothesized that they're "solid cores" are only solid because of the immense pressures? Like isn't much of Jupiter's inner core (or outer-inner core) metallic helium or something? My reading about this is outdated, but it's mentioned in the explanation that it requires "tensile strength beyond what is likely physically possible for any known form of matter." Actually I'm a little annoyed that this statement doesn't get "citation needed", rather than "planets of our solar system would not be suitable for this endeavor", because obviously if the first statement is true, the second needs no citation if the first is true, because no planet is made of unknown forms of matter. Correct?" [[User:Cuvtixo\|Cuvtixo]] ([[User talk:Cuvtixo\|talk]]) 22:19, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
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		+	Is there an element of Pluto discourse here? IIRC, one of the complaints about the "clearing your orbit" was that different metrics would 'punish' (for those who view the reclassification as a punishment) objects orbiting at a greater distance. I find the distribution of thicknesses really intriguing, and I wonder how the various dwarf planets at different parts of the system would stack up, thickness-wise. [newbyBoredAtWork]