Talk:2774: Taxiing - Revision history

Psychoticpotato at 13:57, 6 May 2024

2024-05-06T13:57:11Z

172.70.91.88 at 10:12, 13 June 2023

2023-06-13T10:12:44Z

141.101.98.78 at 09:41, 13 June 2023

2023-06-13T09:41:42Z

Dúthomhas at 22:03, 15 May 2023

2023-05-15T22:03:29Z

Rps: Example of a airplane in a truck

2023-05-15T17:07:19Z

Example of a airplane in a truck

172.70.86.31 at 16:13, 15 May 2023

2023-05-15T16:13:30Z

172.70.90.252: Explaining what may have inspired this comic

2023-05-15T11:25:51Z

Explaining what may have inspired this comic

141.101.98.126 at 20:42, 12 May 2023

2023-05-12T20:42:11Z

162.158.159.52 at 19:10, 12 May 2023

2023-05-12T19:10:12Z

172.70.214.78: There's a feel to this like he thinks the plane/truck are alive, and he's using these methods to capture one as a pet, rather than buying one at the store.

2023-05-12T13:26:12Z

There's a feel to this like he thinks the plane/truck are alive, and he's using these methods to capture one as a pet, rather than buying one at the store.

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 :::Towbarless Tractors (not all with 'ramps', but may grip and raise the front wheel) are practical for a number of reasons. They dont need to be self-ballasted to be able to push/pull the nosewheel (the plane adds weight enough, to prevent the powerto the wheels just spinning them) and there's no need for a towbar-connector (complicating the dynamics of turns/reversing). Loads of slightly different designs of Pushbacks for airliners, despite some of the more usual common design features, like ultra-low profile (barely more than the necessary height of the wheels, perhaps) to facilitate getting entirely underneath the nose/fuselage of planes. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.126|141.101.98.126]] 20:42, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
 : Here is a X-15 in a truck (wings and stabilizer disassembled): https://www.alamy.com/stock-image-photograph-of-the-x-15-research-aircraft-being-trucked-to-cleveland-162597234.html?imageid=0AC6CC18-40AD-4D4F-8A92-1368529CE832&p=75935&pn=1&searchId=76793ef026a859439e41c5fe56343a84&searchtype=0 In a book I have there is a picture of the plane being trucked from the factory to the base, but I couldn't find it in a quick serach. [[User:Rps|Rps]] ([[User talk:Rps|talk]]) 17:07, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
+::::You all sound like Black Hat. [[User:Psychoticpotato|Psychoticpotato]] ([[User talk:Psychoticpotato|talk]]) 13:57, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
 On TV, you don't even need detour signs.  Just hack their GPS for free. [[User:Jordan Brown|Jordan Brown]] ([[User talk:Jordan Brown|talk]]) 22:51, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

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	That ramp looks rather steep. How steep a slope can an aircraft climb under its own power? (Assuming v. low speed, not flying speed or even ground effect speed) [[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.78\|141.101.98.78]] 09:41, 13 June 2023 (UTC)		That ramp looks rather steep. How steep a slope can an aircraft climb under its own power? (Assuming v. low speed, not flying speed or even ground effect speed) [[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.78\|141.101.98.78]] 09:41, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
		+	:Given that a plane can point into the air and rapidly gain altitude (e.g. when rotating off the runway at take-off, I expect there's plenty of engine power in most aircraft. At low speed there's less air-resistance (which normally needs punching through, even on level flight), but here you're swapping over to rolling resistance (plus rotational inertia as the front gear neess to be forced up, rather than the pitch of the body changed by aerodynamic forces by flight-speed winds upon the elevators/other surfaces) and whilst a plane can build up level speed and temporarily sacrifice that for height (beyond that gained by the "level lift" of horizontal wings), if there's not much 'run up' then you don't get that here (and if there is, then the front wheel assembly (and its connection with and through the fuselage spine) needs to be rugged to survive the 'bump'). You only need to nudge the wheel up a few feet,vthough, and then it's on the level truck-back (plane inclined but moving horizontally), with the positioning of the rear gear dictating whether the rear needs pursuading to hoist itself up by the same amount or not. (Beyond the immediate scope of the comic; presumably Cueball is prepared for whatever is necessary, at least as much as he is for dealing with the necessary wingspan clearance once the truck drives off, however-so-loaded.)
		+	:But while I'd say that probably not all planes could go up a vertical ramp (those not designed as tail-sitters, certainly), there's probably quite a decent slope that most such craft could power-taxi up, even if they had to totally throttle up like they normally would for take-off and the resulting climb to altitude. The pilot (and possibly the engine management computers) would probably notice this as very unusual under ground-movement conditions, but the force of personality that the glowy-stick-things convey seem already enough to have convinced the pilot to ''approach'' the trailer, so..? [[Special:Contributions/172.70.91.88\|172.70.91.88]] 10:12, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

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	It might be worth adding to the explanation that there are _multiple_ people involved in parking a plane, both on the ground and elsewhere. The pilots, for example, would surely not follow commands to do anything but park where the tower told him to. (This adds to the one-person-misleads-sheeple funniness, methinks.) [[User:Dúthomhas\|Dúthomhas]] ([[User talk:Dúthomhas\|talk]]) 22:03, 15 May 2023 (UTC)		It might be worth adding to the explanation that there are _multiple_ people involved in parking a plane, both on the ground and elsewhere. The pilots, for example, would surely not follow commands to do anything but park where the tower told him to. (This adds to the one-person-misleads-sheeple funniness, methinks.) [[User:Dúthomhas\|Dúthomhas]] ([[User talk:Dúthomhas\|talk]]) 22:03, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
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		+	That ramp looks rather steep. How steep a slope can an aircraft climb under its own power? (Assuming v. low speed, not flying speed or even ground effect speed) [[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.78\|141.101.98.78]] 09:41, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

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	Is this a comment(ary) on the people online who say "I don't know why people pay so much for (xx) software when you can just buy a licence online for $15"? {{unsigned ip\|172.70.90.252\|11:25, 15 May 2023}}		Is this a comment(ary) on the people online who say "I don't know why people pay so much for (xx) software when you can just buy a licence online for $15"? {{unsigned ip\|172.70.90.252\|11:25, 15 May 2023}}
	:Probably more a general 'life hack' thing, rather than that example. Buying software online, physical for delivery or licence-only with download, is often subject to many deals that can outcompete the bricks'n'mortar stores, but that's true for just about anything. But "buy this <handy kitchen gadget> and you'll never have to buy pre-<whatevered> <foodstuff> ever again" seems to be more the kind of current vogue it's building off of. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.86.31\|172.70.86.31]] 16:13, 15 May 2023 (UTC)		:Probably more a general 'life hack' thing, rather than that example. Buying software online, physical for delivery or licence-only with download, is often subject to many deals that can outcompete the bricks'n'mortar stores, but that's true for just about anything. But "buy this <handy kitchen gadget> and you'll never have to buy pre-<whatevered> <foodstuff> ever again" seems to be more the kind of current vogue it's building off of. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.86.31\|172.70.86.31]] 16:13, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
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		+	It might be worth adding to the explanation that there are _multiple_ people involved in parking a plane, both on the ground and elsewhere. The pilots, for example, would surely not follow commands to do anything but park where the tower told him to. (This adds to the one-person-misleads-sheeple funniness, methinks.) [[User:Dúthomhas\|Dúthomhas]] ([[User talk:Dúthomhas\|talk]]) 22:03, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

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 :: Depends on how far you want to take the aircraft.  You could just move it to some other part of the airport.  There are a few airports that cross national boundaries which could make a relocation more interesting.  May be worth mentioning the aircraft tractors at Orly Airport.  These had a ramp that the nosewheel rode on, a flatbed could be used the same way.  Orly public relations claimed it used these tractors because of unusually large taxi distances at the airport, but it was probably because they were French.[[Special:Contributions/162.158.159.52|162.158.159.52]] 19:10, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
 :::Towbarless Tractors (not all with 'ramps', but may grip and raise the front wheel) are practical for a number of reasons. They dont need to be self-ballasted to be able to push/pull the nosewheel (the plane adds weight enough, to prevent the powerto the wheels just spinning them) and there's no need for a towbar-connector (complicating the dynamics of turns/reversing). Loads of slightly different designs of Pushbacks for airliners, despite some of the more usual common design features, like ultra-low profile (barely more than the necessary height of the wheels, perhaps) to facilitate getting entirely underneath the nose/fuselage of planes. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.126|141.101.98.126]] 20:42, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
 On TV, you don't even need detour signs.  Just hack their GPS for free. [[User:Jordan Brown|Jordan Brown]] ([[User talk:Jordan Brown|talk]]) 22:51, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

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	Nothing to say about the comic itself, but I just wanted to express how funny this explanation is, between the proposed solution for the police car requirement and the description for the added image. I never knew we could add images in this way to make explanations clearer! [[Special:Contributions/162.158.233.69\|162.158.233.69]] 12:17, 12 May 2023 (UTC)		Nothing to say about the comic itself, but I just wanted to express how funny this explanation is, between the proposed solution for the police car requirement and the description for the added image. I never knew we could add images in this way to make explanations clearer! [[Special:Contributions/162.158.233.69\|162.158.233.69]] 12:17, 12 May 2023 (UTC)

−	Is this a comment(ary) on the people online who say "I don't know why people pay so much for (xx) software when you can just buy a licence online for $15"?	+	Is this a comment(ary) on the people online who say "I don't know why people pay so much for (xx) software when you can just buy a licence online for $15"? {{unsigned ip\|172.70.90.252\|11:25, 15 May 2023}}
		+	:Probably more a general 'life hack' thing, rather than that example. Buying software online, physical for delivery or licence-only with download, is often subject to many deals that can outcompete the bricks'n'mortar stores, but that's true for just about anything. But "buy this <handy kitchen gadget> and you'll never have to buy pre-<whatevered> <foodstuff> ever again" seems to be more the kind of current vogue it's building off of. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.86.31\|172.70.86.31]] 16:13, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

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	Nothing to say about the comic itself, but I just wanted to express how funny this explanation is, between the proposed solution for the police car requirement and the description for the added image. I never knew we could add images in this way to make explanations clearer! [[Special:Contributions/162.158.233.69\|162.158.233.69]] 12:17, 12 May 2023 (UTC)		Nothing to say about the comic itself, but I just wanted to express how funny this explanation is, between the proposed solution for the police car requirement and the description for the added image. I never knew we could add images in this way to make explanations clearer! [[Special:Contributions/162.158.233.69\|162.158.233.69]] 12:17, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
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		+	Is this a comment(ary) on the people online who say "I don't know why people pay so much for (xx) software when you can just buy a licence online for $15"?

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 But would an airplane even fit on a truck?  Or on a treadmill for that matter? [[Special:Contributions/172.71.182.47|172.71.182.47]] 21:11, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
 : Depends on whether you want to take the plane complete with wings attached, and on how big the flatbed is, and for that matter on the size of the plane. [[User:Thisfox|Thisfox]] ([[User talk:Thisfox|talk]]) 04:16, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
 On TV, you don't even need detour signs.  Just hack their GPS for free. [[User:Jordan Brown|Jordan Brown]] ([[User talk:Jordan Brown|talk]]) 22:51, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

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	Nothing to say about the comic itself, but I just wanted to express how funny this explanation is, between the proposed solution for the police car requirement and the description for the added image. I never knew we could add images in this way to make explanations clearer! [[Special:Contributions/162.158.233.69\|162.158.233.69]] 12:17, 12 May 2023 (UTC)		Nothing to say about the comic itself, but I just wanted to express how funny this explanation is, between the proposed solution for the police car requirement and the description for the added image. I never knew we could add images in this way to make explanations clearer! [[Special:Contributions/162.158.233.69\|162.158.233.69]] 12:17, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
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−	~~There's a feel to this like he thinks the plane/truck are alive, and he's using these methods to capture one as a pet, rather than buying one at the store.~~