Talk:2827: Brassica - Revision history

WWCODY at 21:43, 22 September 2023

2023-09-22T21:43:56Z

172.71.178.32 at 08:14, 18 September 2023

2023-09-18T08:14:24Z

172.71.178.32 at 08:13, 18 September 2023

2023-09-18T08:13:49Z

Thisfox at 07:28, 18 September 2023

2023-09-18T07:28:29Z

Miamiclay: Fungi aren’t plants

2023-09-16T22:32:29Z

Fungi aren’t plants

WWCODY: /* Redwoods contain no resin. They do contain tanins, as does red wine */ new section

2023-09-15T21:13:16Z

‎Redwoods contain no resin. They do contain tanins, as does red wine: new section

141.101.98.221 at 15:34, 15 September 2023

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Kelvin128: irony

2023-09-15T14:30:46Z

irony

172.70.90.143 at 05:23, 14 September 2023

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Hkmaly at 22:44, 13 September 2023

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	:Presumably that article is correct as to redwoods’ lack of resin, but it inspires very little confidence with “Fungi are colorless plants … .” [[User:Miamiclay\|Miamiclay]] ([[User talk:Miamiclay\|talk]]) 22:32, 16 September 2023 (UTC)		:Presumably that article is correct as to redwoods’ lack of resin, but it inspires very little confidence with “Fungi are colorless plants … .” [[User:Miamiclay\|Miamiclay]] ([[User talk:Miamiclay\|talk]]) 22:32, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
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		+	The statement is backed up by articles such as this: https://www.fs.usda.gov/psw/publications/documents/psw_gtr095/psw_gtr095_piirto.pdf. "There is little ether-soluble material (less than 1 percent) in
		+	coast redwood indicating the absence of fats, waxes, oils, and
		+	resinous substances. However, terpenoids (e.g., alpha pinene
		+	and various resin acids) have been reported (Anderson and others 1968a,b) within a sticky viscous resin found in open pockets of
		+	coast redwood. Similarly, a resinous, sticky material has been
		+	observed on the fire scars of giant sequoia (Piirto 1977). "[[User:WWCODY\|WWCODY]] ([[User talk:WWCODY\|talk]]) 21:43, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

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 Redwoods contain no resin.  They do contain tanins, as does red wine. I am reluctant to edit the article but someone with that skill might want to change the line:
- " "Resinous" is probably a more apt adjective than "delicious", and they're probably woody...."
+" "Resinous" is probably a more apt adjective than "delicious", and they're probably woody...."
 to something like
 ""Delicious" might be an apt adjective as Sequoias, like red wine, have a high content of tannins, including polyphenols, but unlike wine this variety of brussels spounts would probably still be quite woody. Because of their height, the taste, like a Zinfandel, might have a long finish"

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 '''One of the issues with defining which plants are what is the definition of a ''tree'''''. It's disputed a lot, one of those "I know one when I see one" type issues, but it's relevant here because the decision of what is a tree and what isn't is fluid and changes country to country (and even state to state https://www.rgc.net.au/post/what-is-a-tree) and depends on legal definitions rather than phylogenetic ones. https://eukaryotewritesblog.com/2021/05/02/theres-no-such-thing-as-a-tree/. Brassica, on the other hand, IS a genetic definition. I tried to point out the differences and similarities but someone edited it away again, so I figured I’d add it in here. If anyone would like to re-add, I see it as relevant that although we can randomly redefine various large plants as trees, we cannot randomly redefine various broccoli-like plants as brassica. [[User:Thisfox|Thisfox]] ([[User talk:Thisfox|talk]]) 07:28, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
-== Redwoods contain no resin.  They do contain tanins, as does red wine ==
+Redwoods contain no resin.  They do contain tanins, as does red wine. I am reluctant to edit the article but someone with that skill might want to change the line:
   " "Resinous" is probably a more apt adjective than "delicious", and they're probably woody...."
 to something like
 ""Delicious" might be an apt adjective as Sequoias, like red wine, have a high content of tannins, including polyphenols, but unlike wine this variety of brussels spounts would probably still be quite woody. Because of their height, the taste, like a Zinfandel, might have a long finish"
 (reference to lack of resins in redwoods:
 "Redwoods, however, contain neither pitch nor resin...".
 and
 "The Redwoods have a high percentage of tannin, and this gives both the bark and the heartwood a reddish color during the life of the tree...."
 both from from https://www.nps.gov/parkhistory/online_books/shirley/sec6.htm)
 [[User:WWCODY|WWCODY]] ([[User talk:WWCODY|talk]]) 21:13, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
 :Presumably that article is correct as to redwoods’ lack of resin, but it inspires *very* little confidence with “Fungi are colorless plants … .” [[User:Miamiclay|Miamiclay]] ([[User talk:Miamiclay|talk]]) 22:32, 16 September 2023 (UTC)

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 ''to which many vegetables that we eat belong'' speak for yourself. I'm pretty sure neither tomato nor potato is Brassica oleracea. -- [[User:Hkmaly|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly|talk]]) 22:44, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
 :But what about the tomahto and potahto? [[Special:Contributions/172.70.90.143|172.70.90.143]] 05:23, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
 == Redwoods contain no resin.  They do contain tanins, as does red wine ==

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	both from from https://www.nps.gov/parkhistory/online_books/shirley/sec6.htm)		both from from https://www.nps.gov/parkhistory/online_books/shirley/sec6.htm)
	[[User:WWCODY\|WWCODY]] ([[User talk:WWCODY\|talk]]) 21:13, 15 September 2023 (UTC)		[[User:WWCODY\|WWCODY]] ([[User talk:WWCODY\|talk]]) 21:13, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
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		+	:Presumably that article is correct as to redwoods’ lack of resin, but it inspires very little confidence with “Fungi are colorless plants … .” [[User:Miamiclay\|Miamiclay]] ([[User talk:Miamiclay\|talk]]) 22:32, 16 September 2023 (UTC)

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	''to which many vegetables that we eat belong'' speak for yourself. I'm pretty sure neither tomato nor potato is Brassica oleracea. -- [[User:Hkmaly\|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly\|talk]]) 22:44, 13 September 2023 (UTC)		''to which many vegetables that we eat belong'' speak for yourself. I'm pretty sure neither tomato nor potato is Brassica oleracea. -- [[User:Hkmaly\|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly\|talk]]) 22:44, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
	:But what about the tomahto and potahto? [[Special:Contributions/172.70.90.143\|172.70.90.143]] 05:23, 14 September 2023 (UTC)		:But what about the tomahto and potahto? [[Special:Contributions/172.70.90.143\|172.70.90.143]] 05:23, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
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		+	== Redwoods contain no resin. They do contain tanins, as does red wine ==
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		+	I am reluctant to edit the article but someone with that skill might want to change the line
		+
		+	" "Resinous" is probably a more apt adjective than "delicious", and they're probably woody...."
		+
		+	to something like
		+
		+	""Delicious" might be an apt adjective as Sequoias, like red wine, have a high content of tannins, including polyphenols, but unlike wine this variety of brussels spounts would probably still be quite woody. Because of their height, the taste, like a Zinfandel, might have a long finish"
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		+	(reference to lack of resins in redwoods:
		+
		+	"Redwoods, however, contain neither pitch nor resin...".
		+
		+	and
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		+	"The Redwoods have a high percentage of tannin, and this gives both the bark and the heartwood a reddish color during the life of the tree...."
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		+	both from from https://www.nps.gov/parkhistory/online_books/shirley/sec6.htm)
		+	[[User:WWCODY\|WWCODY]] ([[User talk:WWCODY\|talk]]) 21:13, 15 September 2023 (UTC)

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 :What do you mean "ridiculous"? https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-dinosaurs-shrank-and-became-birds/ [[Special:Contributions/172.70.100.229|172.70.100.229]] 19:06, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
 :The poster was using the word "ridiculous" in the usual sense, but they omitted the "ironic" tag. [[User:Kelvin128|Kelvin128]] ([[User talk:Kelvin128|talk]]) 14:30, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
 Do we have a category/tag for "Experts misleading the public" or "Experts manufacturing false facts"? Feels like a common theme. [[Special:Contributions/172.71.22.121|172.71.22.121]] 10:37, 13 September 2023 (UTC)

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	''to which many vegetables that we eat belong'' speak for yourself. I'm pretty sure neither tomato nor potato is Brassica oleracea. -- [[User:Hkmaly\|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly\|talk]]) 22:44, 13 September 2023 (UTC)		''to which many vegetables that we eat belong'' speak for yourself. I'm pretty sure neither tomato nor potato is Brassica oleracea. -- [[User:Hkmaly\|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly\|talk]]) 22:44, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
		+	:But what about the tomahto and potahto? [[Special:Contributions/172.70.90.143\|172.70.90.143]] 05:23, 14 September 2023 (UTC)

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	:What do you mean "ridiculous"? https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-dinosaurs-shrank-and-became-birds/ [[Special:Contributions/172.70.100.229\|172.70.100.229]] 19:06, 12 September 2023 (UTC)		:What do you mean "ridiculous"? https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-dinosaurs-shrank-and-became-birds/ [[Special:Contributions/172.70.100.229\|172.70.100.229]] 19:06, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
	Do we have a category/tag for "Experts misleading the public" or "Experts manufacturing false facts"? Feels like a common theme. [[Special:Contributions/172.71.22.121\|172.71.22.121]] 10:37, 13 September 2023 (UTC)		Do we have a category/tag for "Experts misleading the public" or "Experts manufacturing false facts"? Feels like a common theme. [[Special:Contributions/172.71.22.121\|172.71.22.121]] 10:37, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
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		+	''to which many vegetables that we eat belong'' speak for yourself. I'm pretty sure neither tomato nor potato is Brassica oleracea. -- [[User:Hkmaly\|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly\|talk]]) 22:44, 13 September 2023 (UTC)