Talk:2830: Haunted House - Revision history

172.69.134.219 at 04:14, 27 February 2025

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These Are Not The Comments You Are Looking For: Cable gripe.

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Cable gripe.

172.70.90.236 at 15:31, 20 September 2023

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141.101.68.102 at 15:24, 20 September 2023

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Thisfox at 22:47, 19 September 2023

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172.69.247.41 at 15:11, 19 September 2023

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Iggynelix at 12:51, 19 September 2023

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JohnHawkinson: r: ANSI/NEMA, &c.

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r: ANSI/NEMA, &c.

172.68.174.209 at 06:14, 19 September 2023

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	Ehhh - door/doorknob interfaces do have competing standards (albeit not state-to-state) in bore diameter, door width, spindle size... The joke is that guests are expected to bring their own doorknobs to use, instead of a competent person having fitted the appropriate one in advance, and also that the standard in use is regulated rather than arbitrary. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.68.102\|141.101.68.102]] 15:24, 20 September 2023 (UTC)		Ehhh - door/doorknob interfaces do have competing standards (albeit not state-to-state) in bore diameter, door width, spindle size... The joke is that guests are expected to bring their own doorknobs to use, instead of a competent person having fitted the appropriate one in advance, and also that the standard in use is regulated rather than arbitrary. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.68.102\|141.101.68.102]] 15:24, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
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		+	Ah, see, this is North Dakota food, but you have a New Jersey digestive system and we only have a Delaware adapter. Guess you're starving! [[Special:Contributions/172.69.134.219\|172.69.134.219]] 04:14, 27 February 2025 (UTC)

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 I initially thought this was Randall's version of the old joke "The great thing about standards is there are so many of them." Like the zoo of USB cables and adapters to allow you to connect them. [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 21:22, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
 :Well, shoot.  I was hoping to find an online old phone charger cord museum but it doesn't seem to exist.  In the late 1990s-early 2000s, every time you bought a cell phone, you automatically got a different charger cord that was basically incompatible with anyone else's.  Those flat, wide weird looking connectors that predated USB-anything.  Thought maybe someone would have compiled a list.  [[Special:Contributions/172.70.126.192|172.70.126.192]] 22:05, 18 September 2023 (UTC)Pat
 :No mention of https://xkcd.com/927/?! [[User:TPS|TPS]] ([[User talk:TPS|talk]]) 03:10, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

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	:The relationship between ANSI and NEMA is sufficiently tricky that I'm not sure "somewhat inaccurate" is a true statement. For instance, see https://www.nema.org/standards/technical/ansi-accreditation, which states in pertinent part, "NEMA is accredited by the American National Standards Institute (ANSI) to develop American National Standards…" I'd not be surprised if there's a similar ISO/IEC or even ANSI/IEC thing. Dual branded standards are not unheard of. [[User:JohnHawkinson\|JohnHawkinson]] ([[User talk:JohnHawkinson\|talk]]) 11:01, 19 September 2023 (UTC)		:The relationship between ANSI and NEMA is sufficiently tricky that I'm not sure "somewhat inaccurate" is a true statement. For instance, see https://www.nema.org/standards/technical/ansi-accreditation, which states in pertinent part, "NEMA is accredited by the American National Standards Institute (ANSI) to develop American National Standards…" I'd not be surprised if there's a similar ISO/IEC or even ANSI/IEC thing. Dual branded standards are not unheard of. [[User:JohnHawkinson\|JohnHawkinson]] ([[User talk:JohnHawkinson\|talk]]) 11:01, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

−	Ehhh - door/doorknob interfaces do have competing standards (albeit not state-to-state) in bore diameter, door width, spindle size...[[Special:Contributions/141.101.68.102\|141.101.68.102]] 15:24, 20 September 2023 (UTC)	+	Ehhh - door/doorknob interfaces do have competing standards (albeit not state-to-state) in bore diameter, door width, spindle size... The joke is that guests are expected to bring their own doorknobs to use, instead of a competent person having fitted the appropriate one in advance, and also that the standard in use is regulated rather than arbitrary. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.68.102\|141.101.68.102]] 15:24, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

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	:The relationship between ANSI and NEMA is sufficiently tricky that I'm not sure "somewhat inaccurate" is a true statement. For instance, see https://www.nema.org/standards/technical/ansi-accreditation, which states in pertinent part, "NEMA is accredited by the American National Standards Institute (ANSI) to develop American National Standards…" I'd not be surprised if there's a similar ISO/IEC or even ANSI/IEC thing. Dual branded standards are not unheard of. [[User:JohnHawkinson\|JohnHawkinson]] ([[User talk:JohnHawkinson\|talk]]) 11:01, 19 September 2023 (UTC)		:The relationship between ANSI and NEMA is sufficiently tricky that I'm not sure "somewhat inaccurate" is a true statement. For instance, see https://www.nema.org/standards/technical/ansi-accreditation, which states in pertinent part, "NEMA is accredited by the American National Standards Institute (ANSI) to develop American National Standards…" I'd not be surprised if there's a similar ISO/IEC or even ANSI/IEC thing. Dual branded standards are not unheard of. [[User:JohnHawkinson\|JohnHawkinson]] ([[User talk:JohnHawkinson\|talk]]) 11:01, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
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		+	Ehhh - door/doorknob interfaces do have competing standards (albeit not state-to-state) in bore diameter, door width, spindle size...[[Special:Contributions/141.101.68.102\|141.101.68.102]] 15:24, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

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 Not only are doorknobs quite standardized, they are usually already IN the doors. -- [[User:Hkmaly|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly|talk]]) 22:29, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
 :Not always, unfortunately. I once rented an apartment where the bathroom door's inside knob had to be "plugged in" in order to open the door, but would fall out when not in use. If you couldn't find it you'd be stuck in the bathroom till someone let you out. [[User:Andes|Andes]] ([[User talk:Andes|talk]]) 22:55, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
 :Not really standardised. From what I've heard, on a number of occasions, there are places in America (need to check, could be Canadian provinces or US States, or subset areas) where doors legally must have doorknobs, rather than door-handles, as an anti-bear measure (they can't be a 'clever girl' so easily with a doorknob). And then there are legislative areas which require ''handles'', not ''knobs'', as an accessability (or indeed egressability!) measure for those people with arthritis/other hand-disabilities for precisely the same reason (they would have difficulty with a doorknob, unassisted) but now looking for the more widely usable outcome. Thus mutually incompatible Building Codes are in force. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.91.241|172.70.91.241]] 00:16, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
 ::And now I've got an imagine in my head of a horror movie in which an arthritic grandmother is chasing the heroes, and manages to open a traditional doorknob with her walker... "Clever girl". So thank you for that. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.247.41|172.69.247.41]] 15:11, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

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	:Not always, unfortunately. I once rented an apartment where the bathroom door's inside knob had to be "plugged in" in order to open the door, but would fall out when not in use. If you couldn't find it you'd be stuck in the bathroom till someone let you out. [[User:Andes\|Andes]] ([[User talk:Andes\|talk]]) 22:55, 18 September 2023 (UTC)		:Not always, unfortunately. I once rented an apartment where the bathroom door's inside knob had to be "plugged in" in order to open the door, but would fall out when not in use. If you couldn't find it you'd be stuck in the bathroom till someone let you out. [[User:Andes\|Andes]] ([[User talk:Andes\|talk]]) 22:55, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
	:Not really standardised. From what I've heard, on a number of occasions, there are places in America (need to check, could be Canadian provinces or US States, or subset areas) where doors legally must have doorknobs, rather than door-handles, as an anti-bear measure (they can't be a 'clever girl' so easily with a doorknob). And then there are legislative areas which require ''handles'', not ''knobs'', as an accessability (or indeed egressability!) measure for those people with arthritis/other hand-disabilities for precisely the same reason (they would have difficulty with a doorknob, unassisted) but now looking for the more widely usable outcome. Thus mutually incompatible Building Codes are in force. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.91.241\|172.70.91.241]] 00:16, 19 September 2023 (UTC)		:Not really standardised. From what I've heard, on a number of occasions, there are places in America (need to check, could be Canadian provinces or US States, or subset areas) where doors legally must have doorknobs, rather than door-handles, as an anti-bear measure (they can't be a 'clever girl' so easily with a doorknob). And then there are legislative areas which require ''handles'', not ''knobs'', as an accessability (or indeed egressability!) measure for those people with arthritis/other hand-disabilities for precisely the same reason (they would have difficulty with a doorknob, unassisted) but now looking for the more widely usable outcome. Thus mutually incompatible Building Codes are in force. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.91.241\|172.70.91.241]] 00:16, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
		+	::And now I've got an imagine in my head of a horror movie in which an arthritic grandmother is chasing the heroes, and manages to open a traditional doorknob with her walker... "Clever girl". So thank you for that. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.247.41\|172.69.247.41]] 15:11, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

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 The Louisville Knobs are a geologic/geographic feature. [[Special:Contributions/172.71.174.252|172.71.174.252]] 02:42, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
+: Kentucky, USA [[wikipedia:Knobs_region]] [[User:Iggynelix|Iggynelix]] ([[User talk:Iggynelix|talk]]) 12:51, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
 The explanation so far is somewhat inaccurate, as ANSI and ISO are not the organizations that set specific electrical configurations in the US. For electrical wiring in general, the National Fire Prevention Association publishes NFPA-70, The National Electric Code, which is the basis for most electrical wiring. Plug and socket configurations in buildings are defined by the National Electrical Manufacturers Association, and are referred to by that organization's nomenclature, such as "NEMA 5-15" for the 125V 15A standard plug and socket for most convenience outlets and cords. Appliance connectors like the "C-13" socket used on most computers are defined by the International Electrotechnical Commission. It's too late at night for me to make something shorter than this paragraph...[[Special:Contributions/172.68.174.209|172.68.174.209]] 06:14, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
 :The relationship between ANSI and NEMA is sufficiently tricky that I'm not sure "somewhat inaccurate" is a true statement. For instance, see https://www.nema.org/standards/technical/ansi-accreditation, which states in pertinent part, "NEMA is accredited by the American National Standards Institute (ANSI) to develop American National Standards…" I'd not be surprised if there's a similar ISO/IEC or even ANSI/IEC thing. Dual branded standards are not unheard of. [[User:JohnHawkinson|JohnHawkinson]] ([[User talk:JohnHawkinson|talk]]) 11:01, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

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	The explanation so far is somewhat inaccurate, as ANSI and ISO are not the organizations that set specific electrical configurations in the US. For electrical wiring in general, the National Fire Prevention Association publishes NFPA-70, The National Electric Code, which is the basis for most electrical wiring. Plug and socket configurations in buildings are defined by the National Electrical Manufacturers Association, and are referred to by that organization's nomenclature, such as "NEMA 5-15" for the 125V 15A standard plug and socket for most convenience outlets and cords. Appliance connectors like the "C-13" socket used on most computers are defined by the International Electrotechnical Commission. It's too late at night for me to make something shorter than this paragraph...[[Special:Contributions/172.68.174.209\|172.68.174.209]] 06:14, 19 September 2023 (UTC)		The explanation so far is somewhat inaccurate, as ANSI and ISO are not the organizations that set specific electrical configurations in the US. For electrical wiring in general, the National Fire Prevention Association publishes NFPA-70, The National Electric Code, which is the basis for most electrical wiring. Plug and socket configurations in buildings are defined by the National Electrical Manufacturers Association, and are referred to by that organization's nomenclature, such as "NEMA 5-15" for the 125V 15A standard plug and socket for most convenience outlets and cords. Appliance connectors like the "C-13" socket used on most computers are defined by the International Electrotechnical Commission. It's too late at night for me to make something shorter than this paragraph...[[Special:Contributions/172.68.174.209\|172.68.174.209]] 06:14, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
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		+	:The relationship between ANSI and NEMA is sufficiently tricky that I'm not sure "somewhat inaccurate" is a true statement. For instance, see https://www.nema.org/standards/technical/ansi-accreditation, which states in pertinent part, "NEMA is accredited by the American National Standards Institute (ANSI) to develop American National Standards…" I'd not be surprised if there's a similar ISO/IEC or even ANSI/IEC thing. Dual branded standards are not unheard of. [[User:JohnHawkinson\|JohnHawkinson]] ([[User talk:JohnHawkinson\|talk]]) 11:01, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

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	The Louisville Knobs are a geologic/geographic feature. [[Special:Contributions/172.71.174.252\|172.71.174.252]] 02:42, 19 September 2023 (UTC)		The Louisville Knobs are a geologic/geographic feature. [[Special:Contributions/172.71.174.252\|172.71.174.252]] 02:42, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
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		+	The explanation so far is somewhat inaccurate, as ANSI and ISO are not the organizations that set specific electrical configurations in the US. For electrical wiring in general, the National Fire Prevention Association publishes NFPA-70, The National Electric Code, which is the basis for most electrical wiring. Plug and socket configurations in buildings are defined by the National Electrical Manufacturers Association, and are referred to by that organization's nomenclature, such as "NEMA 5-15" for the 125V 15A standard plug and socket for most convenience outlets and cords. Appliance connectors like the "C-13" socket used on most computers are defined by the International Electrotechnical Commission. It's too late at night for me to make something shorter than this paragraph...[[Special:Contributions/172.68.174.209\|172.68.174.209]] 06:14, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

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	Household electrical outlets do vary from country to country in Europe, such that I have collected a variety of plug adapters. And world-wide, I have seen it asserted that there are 15 different standards, including a number that are partially compatible with each other, differing only by the arrangement of the grounds. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.62.197\|162.158.62.197]] 22:45, 18 September 2023 (UTC)		Household electrical outlets do vary from country to country in Europe, such that I have collected a variety of plug adapters. And world-wide, I have seen it asserted that there are 15 different standards, including a number that are partially compatible with each other, differing only by the arrangement of the grounds. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.62.197\|162.158.62.197]] 22:45, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
		+	:[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mains_electricity_by_country Wikipedia list] [[Special:Contributions/162.158.63.63\|162.158.63.63]] 03:50, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

	The Louisville Knobs are a geologic/geographic feature. [[Special:Contributions/172.71.174.252\|172.71.174.252]] 02:42, 19 September 2023 (UTC)		The Louisville Knobs are a geologic/geographic feature. [[Special:Contributions/172.71.174.252\|172.71.174.252]] 02:42, 19 September 2023 (UTC)