Talk:2838: Dubious Islands - Revision history

92.23.2.228: /* Traverse Gap */

2025-07-05T21:07:22Z

‎Traverse Gap

75.166.6.101 at 20:43, 5 July 2025

2025-07-05T20:43:26Z

MeZimm at 17:28, 7 March 2025

2025-03-07T17:28:08Z

172.69.194.36 at 00:46, 11 January 2024

2024-01-11T00:46:06Z

172.70.135.218: Added another possible inspiration for the comic and speculation about another missing connection.

2024-01-10T19:54:23Z

Added another possible inspiration for the comic and speculation about another missing connection.

172.68.174.233: Comment for WA

2023-11-04T19:39:15Z

Comment for WA

Mrkxcd: Colorado River(s)

2023-10-26T06:03:53Z

Colorado River(s)

Jerodast: /* Possible inspiration for this comic? */ y

2023-10-20T09:40:20Z

‎Possible inspiration for this comic?: y

141.101.99.158 at 18:24, 15 October 2023

2023-10-15T18:24:34Z

172.70.114.10 at 05:22, 15 October 2023

2023-10-15T05:22:25Z

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	== Traverse Gap ==		== Traverse Gap ==
−	Water does occasionally flow through the traverse gap, and oh, my, is the map more satisfying.[https://imgur.com/a/Ch0bjjE]	+	Water does occasionally flow through the traverse gap, and oh, my, is the map more satisfying.[https://imgur.com/a/Ch0bjjE] {{unsigned ip\|75.166.6.101\|20:43, 5 July 2025}}

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	There was also a writer, Neil Moore who did the trek across country in canoe via Two Ocean Pass in 2020 and 2021. https://22rivers.com/the-expedition/ Interestingly his trip also nearly connects Lake Erie to the Allegheny River via Lake Chatauqua. He did an overland portage between Chatauqua and Erie of about 10 miles via Old Portage Road. It appears a shorter portage exists at a lake at 42°15'42.1"N 79°32'32.3"W that is bisected by a road. But-for that road and the lake drying up, that route would turn a good portion of the Midwest into an island. {{unsigned ip\|172.70.135.218\|19:54, 10 January 2024}}		There was also a writer, Neil Moore who did the trek across country in canoe via Two Ocean Pass in 2020 and 2021. https://22rivers.com/the-expedition/ Interestingly his trip also nearly connects Lake Erie to the Allegheny River via Lake Chatauqua. He did an overland portage between Chatauqua and Erie of about 10 miles via Old Portage Road. It appears a shorter portage exists at a lake at 42°15'42.1"N 79°32'32.3"W that is bisected by a road. But-for that road and the lake drying up, that route would turn a good portion of the Midwest into an island. {{unsigned ip\|172.70.135.218\|19:54, 10 January 2024}}
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		+	== Traverse Gap ==
		+	Water does occasionally flow through the traverse gap, and oh, my, is the map more satisfying.[https://imgur.com/a/Ch0bjjE]

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 :Um... yes? There's a link to Parting Of The Ways (I made a grammatical/contextual edit, to make more sense, but might need another tweak) which involves the Atlantic Creek/Pacific Creek split from North Two Ocean Creek, or so I just read myself. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.162.155|172.70.162.155]] 18:37, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
-At least in the case of the {{w|Panama Canal}}, it's not really a "body of water" at all. It's a series of water locks which allow humans to convey boats over what would otherwise be dry land. Yes, the boats are floating in water the whole time, but it's not like an artificial river was dug between the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans that a boat can just cruise on through. It takes a long time and the coordination of many people to get a boat through the canal. Oversimplified diagram [https://media.istockphoto.com/id/1456056228/vector/the-panama-canal-explained.jpg?s=612x612&w=0&k=20&c=lUpBCDRLecDONsUbSphLsIpMVbG75SHjHip1ADY5pDw= here.] --MeZimm [[Special:Contributions/172.68.34.23|172.68.34.23]] 14:43, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
+At least in the case of the {{w|Panama Canal}}, it's not really a "body of water" at all. It's a series of water locks which allow humans to convey boats over what would otherwise be dry land. Yes, the boats are floating in water the whole time, but it's not like an artificial river was dug between the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans that a boat can just cruise on through. It takes a long time and the coordination of many people to get a boat through the canal. Oversimplified diagram [https://media.istockphoto.com/id/1456056228/vector/the-panama-canal-explained.jpg?s=612x612&w=0&k=20&c=lUpBCDRLecDONsUbSphLsIpMVbG75SHjHip1ADY5pDw= here.] [[User:MeZimm|MeZimm]] ([[User talk:MeZimm|talk]]) 14:43, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
 :Generally, though, there is some volume of water flowing through/past lock gates even when they're closed, via sluices, overspills, etc. No, you couldn't float a boat through them, but that doesn't mean there isn't a continuous watercourse. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.85.22|172.70.85.22]] 16:23, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

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	::Ooh. Seems that way! Thu, October 5, 7:51 pm ET. The night before the comic was posted. [[User:Jerodast\|- jerodast]] ([[User talk:Jerodast\|talk]]) 09:40, 20 October 2023 (UTC)		::Ooh. Seems that way! Thu, October 5, 7:51 pm ET. The night before the comic was posted. [[User:Jerodast\|- jerodast]] ([[User talk:Jerodast\|talk]]) 09:40, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

−	There was also a writer, Neil Moore who did the trek across country in canoe via Two Ocean Pass in 2020 and 2021. https://22rivers.com/the-expedition/ Interestingly his trip also nearly connects Lake Erie to the Allegheny River via Lake Chatauqua. He did an overland portage between Chatauqua and Erie of about 10 miles via Old Portage Road. It appears a shorter portage exists at a lake at 42°15'42.1"N 79°32'32.3"W that is bisected by a road. But-for that road and the lake drying up, that route would turn a good portion of the Midwest into an island.	+	There was also a writer, Neil Moore who did the trek across country in canoe via Two Ocean Pass in 2020 and 2021. https://22rivers.com/the-expedition/ Interestingly his trip also nearly connects Lake Erie to the Allegheny River via Lake Chatauqua. He did an overland portage between Chatauqua and Erie of about 10 miles via Old Portage Road. It appears a shorter portage exists at a lake at 42°15'42.1"N 79°32'32.3"W that is bisected by a road. But-for that road and the lake drying up, that route would turn a good portion of the Midwest into an island. {{unsigned ip\|172.70.135.218\|19:54, 10 January 2024}}

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	::Ooh. Seems that way! Thu, October 5, 7:51 pm ET. The night before the comic was posted. [[User:Jerodast\|- jerodast]] ([[User talk:Jerodast\|talk]]) 09:40, 20 October 2023 (UTC)		::Ooh. Seems that way! Thu, October 5, 7:51 pm ET. The night before the comic was posted. [[User:Jerodast\|- jerodast]] ([[User talk:Jerodast\|talk]]) 09:40, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
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		+	There was also a writer, Neil Moore who did the trek across country in canoe via Two Ocean Pass in 2020 and 2021. https://22rivers.com/the-expedition/ Interestingly his trip also nearly connects Lake Erie to the Allegheny River via Lake Chatauqua. He did an overland portage between Chatauqua and Erie of about 10 miles via Old Portage Road. It appears a shorter portage exists at a lake at 42°15'42.1"N 79°32'32.3"W that is bisected by a road. But-for that road and the lake drying up, that route would turn a good portion of the Midwest into an island.

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	If we're going for seriously dubious, I nominate the Colorado River, which flows from Baja California, up and over the Rocky Mountains, and down through Austin, Texas into the Gulf of Mexico. At least, that's what the substitute teacher made us draw on our homework maps in class in high school. She had some... problems. But it would've made an awesome river. Is there a special class of "island" where the rivers are connected by name? [[User:Mrkxcd\|Mrkxcd]] ([[User talk:Mrkxcd\|talk]]) 06:03, 26 October 2023 (UTC)		If we're going for seriously dubious, I nominate the Colorado River, which flows from Baja California, up and over the Rocky Mountains, and down through Austin, Texas into the Gulf of Mexico. At least, that's what the substitute teacher made us draw on our homework maps in class in high school. She had some... problems. But it would've made an awesome river. Is there a special class of "island" where the rivers are connected by name? [[User:Mrkxcd\|Mrkxcd]] ([[User talk:Mrkxcd\|talk]]) 06:03, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
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		+	It is overgrown to the point of being unreadable, but there is a sign outside Olympia, WA that describes the "Olympic Island" the small island west of Washington/British Columbia. [https://maps.app.goo.gl/DHMTjBTRoJ2ALdBA8?g_st=ic]

	== Contrast with general/typical patterns of river flow? ==		== Contrast with general/typical patterns of river flow? ==

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	:Generally, though, there is some volume of water flowing through/past lock gates even when they're closed, via sluices, overspills, etc. No, you couldn't float a boat through them, but that doesn't mean there isn't a continuous watercourse. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.85.22\|172.70.85.22]] 16:23, 9 October 2023 (UTC)		:Generally, though, there is some volume of water flowing through/past lock gates even when they're closed, via sluices, overspills, etc. No, you couldn't float a boat through them, but that doesn't mean there isn't a continuous watercourse. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.85.22\|172.70.85.22]] 16:23, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
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		+	If we're going for seriously dubious, I nominate the Colorado River, which flows from Baja California, up and over the Rocky Mountains, and down through Austin, Texas into the Gulf of Mexico. At least, that's what the substitute teacher made us draw on our homework maps in class in high school. She had some... problems. But it would've made an awesome river. Is there a special class of "island" where the rivers are connected by name? [[User:Mrkxcd\|Mrkxcd]] ([[User talk:Mrkxcd\|talk]]) 06:03, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

	== Contrast with general/typical patterns of river flow? ==		== Contrast with general/typical patterns of river flow? ==

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	Was this reddit thread created before the comic was posted? https://www.reddit.com/r/geography/comments/170xg7l/is_new_england_eastern_new_york_state_southern/ [[Special:Contributions/172.68.119.172\|172.68.119.172]] 01:48, 12 October 2023 (UTC)		Was this reddit thread created before the comic was posted? https://www.reddit.com/r/geography/comments/170xg7l/is_new_england_eastern_new_york_state_southern/ [[Special:Contributions/172.68.119.172\|172.68.119.172]] 01:48, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
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		+	::Ooh. Seems that way! Thu, October 5, 7:51 pm ET. The night before the comic was posted. [[User:Jerodast\|- jerodast]] ([[User talk:Jerodast\|talk]]) 09:40, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

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 Southern NJ is made an island by the Delaware River, the Delaware and Raritan canal and the Raritan river.  <small> -- [[User:162.158.158.98|162.158.158.98]] ([[User talk:162.158.158.98|talk]]) 03:06, 7 October 2023 (UTC) <span style="color:grey; white-space:nowrap;">''(please sign your comments with <nowiki>~~</nowiki>~~)''</span></small>
-I'm disappointed that Randall did not include the Rideau Canal in Ontario, Canada. It connects Ottawa, on the Ottawa River, that flows into the St. Lawrence River, with Kingston, on Lake Ontario, which also flows into the St. Lawrence River.
+I'm disappointed that Randall did not include the Rideau Canal in Ontario, Canada. It connects Ottawa, on the Ottawa River, that flows into the St. Lawrence River, with Kingston, on Lake Ontario, which also flows into the St. Lawrence River. {{unsigned ip|172.70.114.10|05:22, 15 October 2023}}
 I came to this comic hoping to learn the names of the islands, and then to the explanation hoping they were present but hidden in some way. Irrational! [[User:JohnHawkinson|JohnHawkinson]] ([[User talk:JohnHawkinson|talk]]) 07:43, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

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 Southern NJ is made an island by the Delaware River, the Delaware and Raritan canal and the Raritan river.  <small> -- [[User:162.158.158.98|162.158.158.98]] ([[User talk:162.158.158.98|talk]]) 03:06, 7 October 2023 (UTC) <span style="color:grey; white-space:nowrap;">''(please sign your comments with <nowiki>~~</nowiki>~~)''</span></small>
 I came to this comic hoping to learn the names of the islands, and then to the explanation hoping they were present but hidden in some way. Irrational! [[User:JohnHawkinson|JohnHawkinson]] ([[User talk:JohnHawkinson|talk]]) 07:43, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
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 There's also the Height of Land Portage, a 400m long strip of land along the US-Can border that separates the Great Lakes watershed from the Hudson Bay watershed. By contrast, the Traverse gap is ~1600m in length at its narrowest. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.127.80|172.70.127.80]] 13:00, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
 ;Where is Long Island?