Talk:2870: Love Songs - Revision history

172.70.214.43: 'NSync's song "Girlfriend" matches the y-coordinate better than Avril Lavigne's song "Girlfriend" does.

2024-01-09T05:49:00Z

'NSync's song "Girlfriend" matches the y-coordinate better than Avril Lavigne's song "Girlfriend" does.

172.70.85.161 at 12:33, 3 January 2024

2024-01-03T12:33:01Z

Shivank: added a spotify playlist for xkcd love songs

2023-12-30T10:12:53Z

added a spotify playlist for xkcd love songs

162.158.95.114 at 10:21, 29 December 2023

2023-12-29T10:21:06Z

B for brain at 20:41, 24 December 2023

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172.69.247.56 at 05:26, 23 December 2023

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172.69.247.40 at 05:24, 23 December 2023

2023-12-23T05:24:51Z

BunsenH: Shape of Things

2023-12-22T19:14:09Z

Shape of Things

172.71.178.111 at 11:24, 22 December 2023

2023-12-22T11:24:31Z

172.69.135.129 at 10:56, 22 December 2023

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	'Creep' really should be in the middle of the Y axis. We have no clue how the object of the narrator's affections views them - only that they hate themself! [[Special:Contributions/172.70.85.161\|172.70.85.161]] 12:33, 3 January 2024 (UTC)		'Creep' really should be in the middle of the Y axis. We have no clue how the object of the narrator's affections views them - only that they hate themself! [[Special:Contributions/172.70.85.161\|172.70.85.161]] 12:33, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
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		+	I agree with other commenters that the Y-Axis value is too low for Avril Lavigne's "Girlfriend." For this reason, maybe a different song with the same title was intended. 'NSync's song "Girlfriend" matches the data point coordinates better. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.214.43\|172.70.214.43]] 05:49, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

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	Created a [https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1jmHBAybLJIULiBYMctN5R Spotify playlist] with above love songs. [[User:Shivank\|Shivank]] ([[User_talk:Shivank\|talk]]) 10:15, 30 December 2023 (UTC)		Created a [https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1jmHBAybLJIULiBYMctN5R Spotify playlist] with above love songs. [[User:Shivank\|Shivank]] ([[User_talk:Shivank\|talk]]) 10:15, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
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		+	'Creep' really should be in the middle of the Y axis. We have no clue how the object of the narrator's affections views them - only that they hate themself! [[Special:Contributions/172.70.85.161\|172.70.85.161]] 12:33, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

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	Something that could replace ''the Piña Colada song'' in the title-text: [https://youtu.be/e-ORhEE9VVg?si=6z7eIea6MglhkTPv Blank space - Taylor Swift] [[User:B_for_brain\|B for brain]] ([[User_talk:B_for_brain\|talk]]) ([https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCg4bo-hj-mDyOOUp_Yp0pug youtube channel] [https://bforbrain.weebly.com/ wobsite (supposed to be a blag)] 20:41, 24 December 2023 (UTC)		Something that could replace ''the Piña Colada song'' in the title-text: [https://youtu.be/e-ORhEE9VVg?si=6z7eIea6MglhkTPv Blank space - Taylor Swift] [[User:B_for_brain\|B for brain]] ([[User_talk:B_for_brain\|talk]]) ([https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCg4bo-hj-mDyOOUp_Yp0pug youtube channel] [https://bforbrain.weebly.com/ wobsite (supposed to be a blag)] 20:41, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
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		+	Created a [https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1jmHBAybLJIULiBYMctN5R Spotify playlist] with above love songs. [[User:Shivank\|Shivank]] ([[User_talk:Shivank\|talk]]) 10:15, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

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	(reads comic) (automatically sorts in all "Offspring" love songs) (thanks very much, xkcd, you got me again) [[Special:Contributions/172.71.160.124\|172.71.160.124]] 09:24, 21 December 2023 (UTC)		(reads comic) (automatically sorts in all "Offspring" love songs) (thanks very much, xkcd, you got me again) [[Special:Contributions/172.71.160.124\|172.71.160.124]] 09:24, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
		+	:Or Rammstein. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.95.114\|162.158.95.114]] 10:21, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

	"Girlfriend" by Matthew Sweet doesn't remotely follow the narrative in the explanation, but could nevertheless be graphed as shown.[[User:Yorkshire Pudding\|Yorkshire Pudding]] ([[User talk:Yorkshire Pudding\|talk]]) 10:07, 21 December 2023 (UTC)		"Girlfriend" by Matthew Sweet doesn't remotely follow the narrative in the explanation, but could nevertheless be graphed as shown.[[User:Yorkshire Pudding\|Yorkshire Pudding]] ([[User talk:Yorkshire Pudding\|talk]]) 10:07, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

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	:That's just the same issue as the Piña Colada, really. What you could do for those (and others) is trace a track leading up to the dot (probably, from whatever history the song narrative describes as having come from). And maybe a short dashed onwards line to where they hope/fear/want/expect the relationship to progress to. Could get busy. And would need (probably subjective) analysis of the full lyrics then work out how best to tweak it not to get a plate full of undifferentiatable spaghetti. [[Special:Contributions/172.71.178.111\|172.71.178.111]] 11:24, 22 December 2023 (UTC)		:That's just the same issue as the Piña Colada, really. What you could do for those (and others) is trace a track leading up to the dot (probably, from whatever history the song narrative describes as having come from). And maybe a short dashed onwards line to where they hope/fear/want/expect the relationship to progress to. Could get busy. And would need (probably subjective) analysis of the full lyrics then work out how best to tweak it not to get a plate full of undifferentiatable spaghetti. [[Special:Contributions/172.71.178.111\|172.71.178.111]] 11:24, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
	:While both are past tense, it seems to me that "You're So Vain" is describing history (focused on how we got to the "now" of the song), while Piña Colada is presenting a narrative. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.247.40\|172.69.247.40]] 05:24, 23 December 2023 (UTC)		:While both are past tense, it seems to me that "You're So Vain" is describing history (focused on how we got to the "now" of the song), while Piña Colada is presenting a narrative. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.247.40\|172.69.247.40]] 05:24, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
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		+	Something that could replace ''the Piña Colada song'' in the title-text: [https://youtu.be/e-ORhEE9VVg?si=6z7eIea6MglhkTPv Blank space - Taylor Swift] [[User:B_for_brain\|B for brain]] ([[User_talk:B_for_brain\|talk]]) ([https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCg4bo-hj-mDyOOUp_Yp0pug youtube channel] [https://bforbrain.weebly.com/ wobsite (supposed to be a blag)] 20:41, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

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 It needs a third (time) axis: in "You’re so vain", for example, there's the line "But you gave away the things you loved/And one of them was me" which suggests that the Warren Beatty^w^w male character at least USED to live the singer, and "when I was still quite naïve” might imply the feeling was once mutual, regardless of the current degree of indifference and/or active disdain. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.135.129|172.69.135.129]] 10:56, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
 :That's just the same issue as the Piña Colada, really. What you could do for those (and others) is trace a track leading up to the dot (probably, from whatever history the song narrative describes as having come from). And maybe a short dashed onwards line to where they hope/fear/want/expect the relationship to progress to. Could get busy. And would need (probably subjective) analysis of the full lyrics then work out how best to tweak it not to get a plate full of undifferentiatable spaghetti. [[Special:Contributions/172.71.178.111|172.71.178.111]] 11:24, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
-:It seems to me that, while both a past tense, it seems to me that "You're So Vain" is describing history (focused on how we got to the "now" of the song), while Piña Colada is presenting a narrative. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.247.40|172.69.247.40]] 05:24, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
+:While both are past tense, it seems to me that "You're So Vain" is describing history (focused on how we got to the "now" of the song), while Piña Colada is presenting a narrative. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.247.40|172.69.247.40]] 05:24, 23 December 2023 (UTC)

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	It needs a third (time) axis: in "You’re so vain", for example, there's the line "But you gave away the things you loved/And one of them was me" which suggests that the Warren Beatty^w^w male character at least USED to live the singer, and "when I was still quite naïve” might imply the feeling was once mutual, regardless of the current degree of indifference and/or active disdain. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.135.129\|172.69.135.129]] 10:56, 22 December 2023 (UTC)		It needs a third (time) axis: in "You’re so vain", for example, there's the line "But you gave away the things you loved/And one of them was me" which suggests that the Warren Beatty^w^w male character at least USED to live the singer, and "when I was still quite naïve” might imply the feeling was once mutual, regardless of the current degree of indifference and/or active disdain. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.135.129\|172.69.135.129]] 10:56, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
	:That's just the same issue as the Piña Colada, really. What you could do for those (and others) is trace a track leading up to the dot (probably, from whatever history the song narrative describes as having come from). And maybe a short dashed onwards line to where they hope/fear/want/expect the relationship to progress to. Could get busy. And would need (probably subjective) analysis of the full lyrics then work out how best to tweak it not to get a plate full of undifferentiatable spaghetti. [[Special:Contributions/172.71.178.111\|172.71.178.111]] 11:24, 22 December 2023 (UTC)		:That's just the same issue as the Piña Colada, really. What you could do for those (and others) is trace a track leading up to the dot (probably, from whatever history the song narrative describes as having come from). And maybe a short dashed onwards line to where they hope/fear/want/expect the relationship to progress to. Could get busy. And would need (probably subjective) analysis of the full lyrics then work out how best to tweak it not to get a plate full of undifferentiatable spaghetti. [[Special:Contributions/172.71.178.111\|172.71.178.111]] 11:24, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
		+	:It seems to me that, while both a past tense, it seems to me that "You're So Vain" is describing history (focused on how we got to the "now" of the song), while Piña Colada is presenting a narrative. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.247.40\|172.69.247.40]] 05:24, 23 December 2023 (UTC)

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 I'm hoping "I Will Survive" isn't a reference to the Zootopia abortion comic. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.174.82|172.68.174.82]] 23:56, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 :Well, some of the (apparently obvious) references I didn't know. First thought about "Girlfriend" was the {{w|Girlfriend in a Coma (song)|The Smiths song}} ''almost'' of that name. (And it looks like there are almost thirty possible songs... not sure how many are covers of others... {{w|Girlfriend (disambiguation)#Songs|under that exact name}}.) Can I suggest that any possible songs that could be confused (but maybe not match the plotted position, being of a different story/tone) be recorded in a "Not to be confused with..." section? [[Special:Contributions/172.71.178.177|172.71.178.177]] 01:02, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
 not pictured: Jim Steinman songs, which spend most of their time out of the XY plane. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.214.109|172.69.214.109]] 00:14, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

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	It needs a third (time) axis: in "You’re so vain", for example, there's the line "But you gave away the things you loved/And one of them was me" which suggests that the Warren Beatty^w^w male character at least USED to live the singer, and "when I was still quite naïve” might imply the feeling was once mutual, regardless of the current degree of indifference and/or active disdain. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.135.129\|172.69.135.129]] 10:56, 22 December 2023 (UTC)		It needs a third (time) axis: in "You’re so vain", for example, there's the line "But you gave away the things you loved/And one of them was me" which suggests that the Warren Beatty^w^w male character at least USED to live the singer, and "when I was still quite naïve” might imply the feeling was once mutual, regardless of the current degree of indifference and/or active disdain. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.135.129\|172.69.135.129]] 10:56, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
		+	:That's just the same issue as the Piña Colada, really. What you could do for those (and others) is trace a track leading up to the dot (probably, from whatever history the song narrative describes as having come from). And maybe a short dashed onwards line to where they hope/fear/want/expect the relationship to progress to. Could get busy. And would need (probably subjective) analysis of the full lyrics then work out how best to tweak it not to get a plate full of undifferentiatable spaghetti. [[Special:Contributions/172.71.178.111\|172.71.178.111]] 11:24, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

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	Idea: We could add a column for the year the song came out. It would be interesting to see the year distribution and if it clumps in the late 90s (when Randall was a teenager). [[User:Laser813\|Laser813]] ([[User talk:Laser813\|talk]]) 19:33, 21 December 2023 (UTC)		Idea: We could add a column for the year the song came out. It would be interesting to see the year distribution and if it clumps in the late 90s (when Randall was a teenager). [[User:Laser813\|Laser813]] ([[User talk:Laser813\|talk]]) 19:33, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
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		+	It needs a third (time) axis: in "You’re so vain", for example, there's the line "But you gave away the things you loved/And one of them was me" which suggests that the Warren Beatty^w^w male character at least USED to live the singer, and "when I was still quite naïve” might imply the feeling was once mutual, regardless of the current degree of indifference and/or active disdain. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.135.129\|172.69.135.129]] 10:56, 22 December 2023 (UTC)