Talk:2875: 2024 - Revision history

NiceGuy1 at 06:06, 6 January 2024

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172.70.85.22 at 00:43, 4 January 2024

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172.69.223.158 at 22:23, 3 January 2024

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162.158.129.242 at 09:35, 3 January 2024

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Inquirer at 02:48, 3 January 2024

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172.70.85.81 at 01:06, 3 January 2024

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172.70.135.52: devil's advocate, slightly off topic ;)

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devil's advocate, slightly off topic ;)

172.69.70.70 at 21:35, 2 January 2024

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172.71.26.100 at 20:52, 2 January 2024

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Barmar at 20:09, 2 January 2024

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	Even though it is possible that someone may edit the explanation after I post this, thus confusing my reference — I would like to express my appreciation for the way in which the last sentence of this explanation was worded. "Well played." [[User:Inquirer\|Inquirer]] ([[User talk:Inquirer\|talk]]) 02:48, 3 January 2024 (UTC)		Even though it is possible that someone may edit the explanation after I post this, thus confusing my reference — I would like to express my appreciation for the way in which the last sentence of this explanation was worded. "Well played." [[User:Inquirer\|Inquirer]] ([[User talk:Inquirer\|talk]]) 02:48, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
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		+	I feel like "he prefers Democratic Presidents at least over Donald Trump" is misguided/missing the point. I don't think the party had any bearing on that, I think like everyone with more than a couple of brain cells he supported "Anybody But Trump". If Trump had been the Democratic candidate, Randall would have backed the Republican candidate - and he has enough sense to know there's no point in supporting any other party. I was flabbergasted that things which usually remain impartial (I'd have expected Randall, many news outlets, etc) actually came out against Trump, that this felt really significant and should have spoken volumes to Trump supporters.
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		+	I'm Canadian, when I learned of the term limit I was surprised, I was thinking of our leaders who have gone longer - probably most notable being our current guy's father, who would have kept getting elected had he not decided enough was enough, LOL! - that a 2 term limit robs the people of good leaders when you find them (like Obama). Then you re-elected George W. and I got it: They weren't concerned about the good ones, it's to save the American people from themselves, LOL! [[User:NiceGuy1\|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1\|talk]]) 06:06, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

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 :...and all this because the fledgling US decided that it just couldn't organise direct elections nationwide/across all states so worked out its own way to fudge it. (I mean, direct-election FPTP is also problematic, leaving a huge chunk of people deciding they might as well not bother, but FPTP-by-proxy and other problematic issues that arise alongside it add further reasons to be dissilusioned (or excessively entitled, whenever the result happens to swing the way you're more content with, justified or not). [[Special:Contributions/172.70.85.81|172.70.85.81]] 01:06, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
 : That makes no sense. Why would he need to win a third election after dismantling democracy? [[Special:Contributions/172.69.223.158|172.69.223.158]] 22:23, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
+:: You might still want 'to win an election', despite doing all you can to have no democracy. If you're a Kim or a Putin or were a Marcos/Ortega/etc... Not everywhere is the dictator (or dictating 'council') willing to go full Myanmar on the whole 'voting' thing. Sometimes it's because they're not scared about what will happen, others that they're more scared than they admit (and/or would like to trace the whereabouts of the 0.01% of the population that would dare not fill out a voting slip the 'right' way). [[Special:Contributions/172.70.85.22|172.70.85.22]] 00:43, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
 Even though it is possible that someone may edit the explanation after I post this, thus confusing my reference — I would like to express my appreciation for the way in which the last sentence of this explanation was worded. "Well played." [[User:Inquirer|Inquirer]] ([[User talk:Inquirer|talk]]) 02:48, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

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 :And, even if it was shown that massive disenfrachisement occured (e.g. Bush 2's Florida-moment, from getting them to give up on counting/etc), that just potentially invalidates the basis of the Electoral College votes, not that the EC votes were indeed cast.
 :...and all this because the fledgling US decided that it just couldn't organise direct elections nationwide/across all states so worked out its own way to fudge it. (I mean, direct-election FPTP is also problematic, leaving a huge chunk of people deciding they might as well not bother, but FPTP-by-proxy and other problematic issues that arise alongside it add further reasons to be dissilusioned (or excessively entitled, whenever the result happens to swing the way you're more content with, justified or not). [[Special:Contributions/172.70.85.81|172.70.85.81]] 01:06, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
 Even though it is possible that someone may edit the explanation after I post this, thus confusing my reference — I would like to express my appreciation for the way in which the last sentence of this explanation was worded. "Well played." [[User:Inquirer|Inquirer]] ([[User talk:Inquirer|talk]]) 02:48, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

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 :What reference? It says 9 - [[Special:Contributions/172.70.130.153|172.70.130.153]] 19:16, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
 ::It said 8 in some previous versions, like [https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=2875:_2024&oldid=331841 this one] [[Special:Contributions/172.71.26.100|172.71.26.100]] 20:52, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
 Is it worth mentioning that Ponytail is being inconsistent? She wants Obama to be considered a new person due to cellular replacement, so he can be elected ... because she likes him, and recognizes the "new" Obama as still being the President she liked. [[User:Nitpicking|Nitpicking]] ([[User talk:Nitpicking|talk]])

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	:And, even if it was shown that massive disenfrachisement occured (e.g. Bush 2's Florida-moment, from getting them to give up on counting/etc), that just potentially invalidates the basis of the Electoral College votes, not that the EC votes were indeed cast.		:And, even if it was shown that massive disenfrachisement occured (e.g. Bush 2's Florida-moment, from getting them to give up on counting/etc), that just potentially invalidates the basis of the Electoral College votes, not that the EC votes were indeed cast.
	:...and all this because the fledgling US decided that it just couldn't organise direct elections nationwide/across all states so worked out its own way to fudge it. (I mean, direct-election FPTP is also problematic, leaving a huge chunk of people deciding they might as well not bother, but FPTP-by-proxy and other problematic issues that arise alongside it add further reasons to be dissilusioned (or excessively entitled, whenever the result happens to swing the way you're more content with, justified or not). [[Special:Contributions/172.70.85.81\|172.70.85.81]] 01:06, 3 January 2024 (UTC)		:...and all this because the fledgling US decided that it just couldn't organise direct elections nationwide/across all states so worked out its own way to fudge it. (I mean, direct-election FPTP is also problematic, leaving a huge chunk of people deciding they might as well not bother, but FPTP-by-proxy and other problematic issues that arise alongside it add further reasons to be dissilusioned (or excessively entitled, whenever the result happens to swing the way you're more content with, justified or not). [[Special:Contributions/172.70.85.81\|172.70.85.81]] 01:06, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
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		+	Even though it is possible that someone may edit the explanation after I post this, thus confusing my reference — I would like to express my appreciation for the way in which the last sentence of this explanation was worded. "Well played." [[User:Inquirer\|Inquirer]] ([[User talk:Inquirer\|talk]]) 02:48, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

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	Playing devil's advocate, as Trump didn't win the popular vote, one might argue he was ''made'' president, but not "elected to the office" as stated per the 22nd. If he keeps this up he could re-run indefinitely. I expect his lawyers to make this exact argument in 2028. We need to call forth the laws of gerontology to stop him! ;) [[Special:Contributions/172.70.135.52\|172.70.135.52]] 00:11, 3 January 2024 (UTC)		Playing devil's advocate, as Trump didn't win the popular vote, one might argue he was ''made'' president, but not "elected to the office" as stated per the 22nd. If he keeps this up he could re-run indefinitely. I expect his lawyers to make this exact argument in 2028. We need to call forth the laws of gerontology to stop him! ;) [[Special:Contributions/172.70.135.52\|172.70.135.52]] 00:11, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
		+	:Presidents aren't elected by the people, they're elected by the electors (as was Trump). The electors each may have to adhere to one degree of other (depends upon a whole stack of other rules) of faithfulness to the people they represent. But, even if they are ''entirely'' faithful, their combined votes may not truly represent the combined votes of all the people whose votes influence the electors.
		+	:i.e. he was elected to office, despite the majority will of those who contributed to tue result. For technical issues, though, many of those who cast a vote never even had a slither of an influence in the result (they just propped up either the winning ''or'' losing end-totals in ways that can soak up plenty of possible defections, non-participation or reversals of apathy).
		+	:And, even if it was shown that massive disenfrachisement occured (e.g. Bush 2's Florida-moment, from getting them to give up on counting/etc), that just potentially invalidates the basis of the Electoral College votes, not that the EC votes were indeed cast.
		+	:...and all this because the fledgling US decided that it just couldn't organise direct elections nationwide/across all states so worked out its own way to fudge it. (I mean, direct-election FPTP is also problematic, leaving a huge chunk of people deciding they might as well not bother, but FPTP-by-proxy and other problematic issues that arise alongside it add further reasons to be dissilusioned (or excessively entitled, whenever the result happens to swing the way you're more content with, justified or not). [[Special:Contributions/172.70.85.81\|172.70.85.81]] 01:06, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

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	::who on earth vandalizes a comic wiki <span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'">[[User:SomeoneIGuess\|someone, i guess]]<sup>([[User talk:SomeoneIGuess\|talk i guess]]\|[[Special:Contributions/SomeoneIGuess\|le edit list]])</sup></span> 17:25, 2 January 2024 (UTC)		::who on earth vandalizes a comic wiki <span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'">[[User:SomeoneIGuess\|someone, i guess]]<sup>([[User talk:SomeoneIGuess\|talk i guess]]\|[[Special:Contributions/SomeoneIGuess\|le edit list]])</sup></span> 17:25, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
	:::Your username makes it look like you're answering your own question lol [[Special:Contributions/172.69.70.70\|172.69.70.70]] 21:35, 2 January 2024 (UTC)		:::Your username makes it look like you're answering your own question lol [[Special:Contributions/172.69.70.70\|172.69.70.70]] 21:35, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
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		+	Playing devil's advocate, as Trump didn't win the popular vote, one might argue he was ''made'' president, but not "elected to the office" as stated per the 22nd. If he keeps this up he could re-run indefinitely. I expect his lawyers to make this exact argument in 2028. We need to call forth the laws of gerontology to stop him! ;) [[Special:Contributions/172.70.135.52\|172.70.135.52]] 00:11, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

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	:Persistent. I just reverted again. [[User:Nitpicking\|Nitpicking]] ([[User talk:Nitpicking\|talk]]) 17:17, 2 January 2024 (UTC)		:Persistent. I just reverted again. [[User:Nitpicking\|Nitpicking]] ([[User talk:Nitpicking\|talk]]) 17:17, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
	::who on earth vandalizes a comic wiki <span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'">[[User:SomeoneIGuess\|someone, i guess]]<sup>([[User talk:SomeoneIGuess\|talk i guess]]\|[[Special:Contributions/SomeoneIGuess\|le edit list]])</sup></span> 17:25, 2 January 2024 (UTC)		::who on earth vandalizes a comic wiki <span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'">[[User:SomeoneIGuess\|someone, i guess]]<sup>([[User talk:SomeoneIGuess\|talk i guess]]\|[[Special:Contributions/SomeoneIGuess\|le edit list]])</sup></span> 17:25, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
		+	:::Your username makes it look like you're answering your own question lol [[Special:Contributions/172.69.70.70\|172.69.70.70]] 21:35, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

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 Is it worth mentioning that Ponytail is being inconsistent? She wants Obama to be considered a new person due to cellular replacement, so he can be elected ... because she likes him, and recognizes the "new" Obama as still being the President she liked. [[User:Nitpicking|Nitpicking]] ([[User talk:Nitpicking|talk]])
 :Tell you what it also blows out of the water, though..? Any hint of 'birther' complaints. (Also might well be how Arnie had become a POTUS, in the future-history of Demolition Man!) [[Special:Contributions/172.69.194.226|172.69.194.226]] 15:18, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
 Wow! a vandal! fun! <span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'">[[User:SomeoneIGuess|someone, i guess]]<sup>([[User talk:SomeoneIGuess|talk i guess]]&#124;[[Special:Contributions/SomeoneIGuess|le edit list]])</sup></span>  16:45, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
 :Persistent. I just reverted again. [[User:Nitpicking|Nitpicking]] ([[User talk:Nitpicking|talk]]) 17:17, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
 ::who on earth vandalizes a comic wiki <span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'">[[User:SomeoneIGuess|someone, i guess]]<sup>([[User talk:SomeoneIGuess|talk i guess]]&#124;[[Special:Contributions/SomeoneIGuess|le edit list]])</sup></span>  17:25, 2 January 2024 (UTC)