Talk:2885: Spelling - Revision history

Eelitee: oops - undone, fixed

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oops - undone, fixed

Eelitee: While I don't particularly enjoy reading this stuff, please do sign your comments.

2024-01-29T16:59:31Z

While I don't particularly enjoy reading this stuff, please do sign your comments.

172.64.238.57: Add my opinion

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Add my opinion

AzureArmageddon at 16:45, 25 January 2024

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172.69.194.254 at 10:16, 25 January 2024

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RIIW - Ponder it at 07:51, 25 January 2024

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Mushrooms at 07:39, 25 January 2024

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Kynde at 07:37, 25 January 2024

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RegularSizedGuy: /* Dictionary Copyright */

2024-01-25T04:33:35Z

‎Dictionary Copyright

172.69.22.242: Undo revision 333507 by Raviolio (talk) Yes, this is relevant to the comic, in that it is in the wake of Claudine Gay's resignation due to her plagiarism.

2024-01-24T23:23:21Z

Undo revision 333507 by Raviolio (talk) Yes, this is relevant to the comic, in that it is in the wake of Claudine Gay's resignation due to her plagiarism.

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 :Yeah, the lack of a period at the end of that sentence, makes it read "really, ''really'' don't know how to spell Mushrooms" & that works great as a sentence\statement, in this case!
 :[[User:ProphetZarquon|ProphetZarquon]] ([[User talk:ProphetZarquon|talk]]) 15:49, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 Boo! at the spoilsport who took out my 'dilemna' easter egg. :oP [[Special:Contributions/141.101.99.101|141.101.99.101]] 16:27, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
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 :Do you mean Claudine Gay, that Nazi Hamas sympathizer who couldn't answer a simple question about Harvard's code of conduct with respect to advocating for anti-Semitic genocide, and had to resign disgracefully after it was revealed she plagiarized more than half of her academic publications?  Do you mean her?  Yes. It looks nothing like that. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.134.217|172.69.134.217]]
-== Dictionary Copyright ==
+Re. the ask in the incomplete tag for citations about plajerism being mispelled - [https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/plagiarism Merriam Webster] claims that common misspellings are "plagarism, plagerism, plagirism", but, uh, doesn't cite its source for that... [[Special:Contributions/172.69.194.254|172.69.194.254]] 10:16, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
 Citing a dictionary is a great example of attribution: A ''portion'' is directly quoted, with its source stated for verification purposes. Attribution is a great practice; copying without attribution isn't literal theft, but it ''is'' lazy & irresponsible, & actually detracts from the real value of the copy. Copying ''with'' attribution, on the other hand, is difficult to show any real harm from, & is arguably beneficial to all but rent-seekers. Attribution is essential! What other works, are cited with attribution, as consistently as a dictionary? Even scholarly papers seem oft-quoted without attribution... This is a disservice to both the listener, & anyone who might value the original, & potentially to the one copying. 'News' is another example of having less value without attribution... What's another good example of something that isn't as useful unless the source is cited?
 [[User:ProphetZarquon|ProphetZarquon]] ([[User talk:ProphetZarquon|talk]]) 16:07, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

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 :Yeah, the lack of a period at the end of that sentence, makes it read "really, ''really'' don't know how to spell Mushrooms" & that works great as a sentence\statement, in this case!
 :[[User:ProphetZarquon|ProphetZarquon]] ([[User talk:ProphetZarquon|talk]]) 15:49, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 Boo! at the spoilsport who took out my 'dilemna' easter egg. :oP [[Special:Contributions/141.101.99.101|141.101.99.101]] 16:27, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
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 Funny, this setting doesn't <em>look</em> all that much like that of the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claudine_Gay#Plagiarism_investigations Office of the President of Harvard University] ... [[Special:Contributions/172.69.197.133|172.69.197.133]] 17:31, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
-:Do you mean Claudine Gay, that Nazi Hamas sympathizer who couldn't answer a simple question about Harvard's code of conduct with respect to advocating for anti-Semitic genocide, and had to resign disgracefully after it was revealed she plagiarized more than half of her academic publications?  Do you mean her?  Yes. It looks nothing like that.
+:Do you mean Claudine Gay, that Nazi Hamas sympathizer who couldn't answer a simple question about Harvard's code of conduct with respect to advocating for anti-Semitic genocide, and had to resign disgracefully after it was revealed she plagiarized more than half of her academic publications?  Do you mean her?  Yes. It looks nothing like that. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.134.217|172.69.134.217]]
-Re. the ask in the incomplete tag for citations about plajerism being mispelled - [https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/plagiarism Merriam Webster] claims that common misspellings are "plagarism, plagerism, plagirism", but, uh, doesn't cite its source for that... [[Special:Contributions/172.69.194.254|172.69.194.254]] 10:16, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
+== Dictionary Copyright ==
 Citing a dictionary is a great example of attribution: A ''portion'' is directly quoted, with its source stated for verification purposes. Attribution is a great practice; copying without attribution isn't literal theft, but it ''is'' lazy & irresponsible, & actually detracts from the real value of the copy. Copying ''with'' attribution, on the other hand, is difficult to show any real harm from, & is arguably beneficial to all but rent-seekers. Attribution is essential! What other works, are cited with attribution, as consistently as a dictionary? Even scholarly papers seem oft-quoted without attribution... This is a disservice to both the listener, & anyone who might value the original, & potentially to the one copying. 'News' is another example of having less value without attribution... What's another good example of something that isn't as useful unless the source is cited?
 [[User:ProphetZarquon|ProphetZarquon]] ([[User talk:ProphetZarquon|talk]]) 16:07, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

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	I wonder if many people realise that in many ways using an AI to write an essay is a type of plagiarism engine? [[User:RIIW - Ponder it\|RIIW - Ponder it]] ([[User talk:RIIW - Ponder it\|talk]]) 07:51, 25 January 2024 (UTC)		I wonder if many people realise that in many ways using an AI to write an essay is a type of plagiarism engine? [[User:RIIW - Ponder it\|RIIW - Ponder it]] ([[User talk:RIIW - Ponder it\|talk]]) 07:51, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
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		+	: I've been seeing EU directives about putting any work generated with AI into the copyrightist juristriction of the prompter, not the AI, so in the EU, it might not be like this. I guess some people see it as a tool, like a typesetting word processor or "put numbers in, get numbers out" industrial calculation software. [[Special:Contributions/172.64.238.57\|172.64.238.57]] 22:07, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

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	There's also this https://apnews.com/article/harvard-president-plagiarism-claudine-gay-14330935453134c7c9c9a9c496020568 and this https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/youtube-creator-james-somerton-plagiarism-accusation-response-rcna130860 which are fairly recent and in the English speaking world. I just think plagiarism is a common topic right now. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.42.241\|172.70.42.241]] 23:01, 24 January 2024 (UTC)		There's also this https://apnews.com/article/harvard-president-plagiarism-claudine-gay-14330935453134c7c9c9a9c496020568 and this https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/youtube-creator-james-somerton-plagiarism-accusation-response-rcna130860 which are fairly recent and in the English speaking world. I just think plagiarism is a common topic right now. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.42.241\|172.70.42.241]] 23:01, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
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		+	The explanation currently goes with the interpretation that makes sense based on the title text, but based on the drawing alone I figured Cueball didn't want "plagiarism" to appear on the search history of a shared computer or on shared network logs or something leading to him being circumstantially implicated in looking up ways to get away with plagiarism. Hence Cueball's concern with the location being "here" rather than the morals of the deed itself. AzureArmageddon 16:45, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

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 Funny, this setting doesn't <em>look</em> all that much like that of the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claudine_Gay#Plagiarism_investigations Office of the President of Harvard University] ... [[Special:Contributions/172.69.197.133|172.69.197.133]] 17:31, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 :Do you mean Claudine Gay, that Nazi Hamas sympathizer who couldn't answer a simple question about Harvard's code of conduct with respect to advocating for anti-Semitic genocide, and had to resign disgracefully after it was revealed she plagiarized more than half of her academic publications?  Do you mean her?  Yes. It looks nothing like that.
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	:On the other hand, far too many lazy presenters, speakers, and best men have included the phrase "Webster's Dictionary defines [everyday word everyone knows the meaning of but you're about to poetically but incorrectly redefine] as..." [[User:RegularSizedGuy\|RegularSizedGuy]] ([[User talk:RegularSizedGuy\|talk]]) 04:33, 25 January 2024 (UTC)		:On the other hand, far too many lazy presenters, speakers, and best men have included the phrase "Webster's Dictionary defines [everyday word everyone knows the meaning of but you're about to poetically but incorrectly redefine] as..." [[User:RegularSizedGuy\|RegularSizedGuy]] ([[User talk:RegularSizedGuy\|talk]]) 04:33, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

		+	I wonder if many people realise that in many ways using an AI to write an essay is a type of plagiarism engine? [[User:RIIW - Ponder it\|RIIW - Ponder it]] ([[User talk:RIIW - Ponder it\|talk]]) 07:51, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

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	I like how someone misspelled "spell" until I corrected it. [[User:1234231587678\|1234231587678]] ([[User talk:1234231587678\|talk]]) 17:19, 24 January 2024 (UTC)		I like how someone misspelled "spell" until I corrected it. [[User:1234231587678\|1234231587678]] ([[User talk:1234231587678\|talk]]) 17:19, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
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		+	Funny, this setting doesn't <em>look</em> all that much like that of the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claudine_Gay#Plagiarism_investigations Office of the President of Harvard University] ... [[Special:Contributions/172.69.197.133\|172.69.197.133]] 17:31, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
		+	:Do you mean Claudine Gay, that Nazi Hamas sympathizer who couldn't answer a simple question about Harvard's code of conduct with respect to advocating for anti-Semitic genocide, and had to resign disgracefully after it was revealed she plagiarized more than half of her academic publications? Do you mean her? Yes. It looks nothing like that.

	== Dictionary Copyright ==		== Dictionary Copyright ==