Talk:2888: US Survey Foot - Revision history

42.book.addict at 21:01, 1 December 2025

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172.69.74.231 at 21:53, 19 May 2025

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104.23.195.23 at 21:11, 19 May 2025

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Z1mp0st0rz at 15:48, 16 April 2024

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172.70.246.85 at 17:31, 27 March 2024

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172.70.246.85: /* UK & Ireland Survey Foot */

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‎UK & Ireland Survey Foot

162.158.74.119 at 22:12, 16 February 2024

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172.70.126.49 at 21:02, 16 February 2024

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RogerWTurner: /* UK & Ireland Survey Foot */

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‎UK & Ireland Survey Foot

172.70.34.122 at 12:47, 6 February 2024

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 Breaking news- the comic just got changed to 8,000.016[[User:TenGolf MathHacker|TenGolf MathHacker]] ([[User talk:TenGolf MathHacker|talk]]) 17:28, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
 :As it should ... I did the math, and the difference between the two measurements over 8000 miles comes out to be 25.7249999 meters – which works out to be 0.0159842 of a mile.  This is, of course, why it appears that the team and Black Hat are on the shores of the same pond, with only the boulder(?) preventing the team from being able to see Black Hat. [[User:RAGBRAIvet|RAGBRAIvet]] ([[User talk:RAGBRAIvet|talk]]) 10:25, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
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 ::: (cntd) There was an edit more in agreement with me (that they were close). But suggested definitely frame-border close, which I (I hope they don't mind) hedged to it ''not much more than (probably)'' frame-border close. To cover the actually unknown exact relation between the obviously related neighbouring scenes. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.74.69|162.158.74.69]] 22:17, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
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 Until the British Ordnance Survey adopted the metre
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 No Ingenuity tribute comic? :/ [[Special:Contributions/162.158.102.64|162.158.102.64]] 21:07, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
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 I know that this is a semantically annoying nit to pick, but the overall theme of the comic is about the difference between the two original measurements, not how much .016 can make in measurements. So why is decimal variance the punchline? 1245 UTC, 6 Feb 2024. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.34.122|172.70.34.122]] 12:47, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
 :It's the punchline from the absurdity that two entirely separate units existed for which even over a great distance of 42.2 million feet, the variance would be only 84 feet.  I had projects come to a screeching halt when the survey/international issue made stuff be wrong by less than 2'.  It ends up that property owners get very protective of their property lines being exact. {{unsigned ip|172.70.126.49|21:02, 16 February 2024}}
 :: Prior to 1959 the UK foot was defined by a physical object (unlike the US one which was allready defined based on the meter), so all conversation to meter where purely empirical. Hence the change was simply a measurement refinement / redefinition, akin to the multiple redefinitions of the meter and kilogram. The UK didn't have the difference at the survoyer scale issue, as UK survoyers had allready adapted metric back then.

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 I know that this is a semantically annoying nit to pick, but the overall theme of the comic is about the difference between the two original measurements, not how much .016 can make in measurements. So why is decimal variance the punchline? 1245 UTC, 6 Feb 2024. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.34.122|172.70.34.122]] 12:47, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
 :It's the punchline from the absurdity that two entirely separate units existed for which even over a great distance of 42.2 million feet, the variance would be only 84 feet.  I had projects come to a screeching halt when the survey/international issue made stuff be wrong by less than 2'.  It ends up that property owners get very protective of their property lines being exact. {{unsigned ip|172.70.126.49|21:02, 16 February 2024}}
 :: Prior to 1959 the UK foot was defined by a physical object (unlike the US one which was allready defined based on the meter), so all conversation to meter where purely empirical. Hence the change was simply a measurement refinement / redefinition, akin to the multiple redefinitions of the meter and kilogram. The UK didn't have the difference at the survoyer scale issue, as UK survoyers had allready adapted metric back then.
 :: India did have a survey foot, but this has been retired since then.--[[Special:Contributions/172.70.246.85|172.70.246.85]] 17:30, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
 :::Interesting! What was it called? [[User:Z1mp0st0rz|Z1mp0st0rz]] ([[User talk:Z1mp0st0rz|talk]]) 15:48, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

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 :And maybe something about the absurdity of NIST having "SEAL Team"-like agents that can capture someone violating their standard. [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 07:20, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
 :: The explanation doesn't mention the NIST helicopters (which have no precedent), but somehow doubts the US would send a SEAL team where they have no jurisdiction (which does). [[Special:Contributions/198.41.242.118|198.41.242.118]] 14:00, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
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	:: India did have a survey foot, but this has been retired since then.--[[Special:Contributions/172.70.246.85\|172.70.246.85]] 17:30, 27 March 2024 (UTC)		:: India did have a survey foot, but this has been retired since then.--[[Special:Contributions/172.70.246.85\|172.70.246.85]] 17:30, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
		+	:::Interesting! What was it called? [[User:Z1mp0st0rz\|Z1mp0st0rz]] ([[User talk:Z1mp0st0rz\|talk]]) 15:48, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

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	:: Prior to 1959 the UK foot was defined by a physical object (unlike the US one which was allready defined based on the meter), so all conversation to meter where purely empirical. Hence the change was simply a measurement refinement / redefinition, akin to the multiple redefinitions of the meter and kilogram. The UK didn't have the difference at the survoyer scale issue, as UK survoyers had allready adapted metric back then.		:: Prior to 1959 the UK foot was defined by a physical object (unlike the US one which was allready defined based on the meter), so all conversation to meter where purely empirical. Hence the change was simply a measurement refinement / redefinition, akin to the multiple redefinitions of the meter and kilogram. The UK didn't have the difference at the survoyer scale issue, as UK survoyers had allready adapted metric back then.

−	India did have a survey foot, but this has been retired since then.--[[Special:Contributions/172.70.246.85\|172.70.246.85]] 17:30, 27 March 2024 (UTC)	+	:: India did have a survey foot, but this has been retired since then.--[[Special:Contributions/172.70.246.85\|172.70.246.85]] 17:30, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

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	I know that this is a semantically annoying nit to pick, but the overall theme of the comic is about the difference between the two original measurements, not how much .016 can make in measurements. So why is decimal variance the punchline? 1245 UTC, 6 Feb 2024. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.34.122\|172.70.34.122]] 12:47, 6 February 2024 (UTC)		I know that this is a semantically annoying nit to pick, but the overall theme of the comic is about the difference between the two original measurements, not how much .016 can make in measurements. So why is decimal variance the punchline? 1245 UTC, 6 Feb 2024. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.34.122\|172.70.34.122]] 12:47, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
	:It's the punchline from the absurdity that two entirely separate units existed for which even over a great distance of 42.2 million feet, the variance would be only 84 feet. I had projects come to a screeching halt when the survey/international issue made stuff be wrong by less than 2'. It ends up that property owners get very protective of their property lines being exact. {{unsigned ip\|172.70.126.49\|21:02, 16 February 2024}}		:It's the punchline from the absurdity that two entirely separate units existed for which even over a great distance of 42.2 million feet, the variance would be only 84 feet. I had projects come to a screeching halt when the survey/international issue made stuff be wrong by less than 2'. It ends up that property owners get very protective of their property lines being exact. {{unsigned ip\|172.70.126.49\|21:02, 16 February 2024}}
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		+	:: Prior to 1959 the UK foot was defined by a physical object (unlike the US one which was allready defined based on the meter), so all conversation to meter where purely empirical. Hence the change was simply a measurement refinement / redefinition, akin to the multiple redefinitions of the meter and kilogram. The UK didn't have the difference at the survoyer scale issue, as UK survoyers had allready adapted metric back then.
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		+	India did have a survey foot, but this has been retired since then.--[[Special:Contributions/172.70.246.85\|172.70.246.85]] 17:30, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

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	I know that this is a semantically annoying nit to pick, but the overall theme of the comic is about the difference between the two original measurements, not how much .016 can make in measurements. So why is decimal variance the punchline? 1245 UTC, 6 Feb 2024. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.34.122\|172.70.34.122]] 12:47, 6 February 2024 (UTC)		I know that this is a semantically annoying nit to pick, but the overall theme of the comic is about the difference between the two original measurements, not how much .016 can make in measurements. So why is decimal variance the punchline? 1245 UTC, 6 Feb 2024. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.34.122\|172.70.34.122]] 12:47, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
−	:It's the punchline from the absurdity that two entirely separate units existed for which even over a great distance of 42.2 million feet, the variance would be only 84 feet. I had projects come to a screeching halt when the survey/international issue made stuff be wrong by less than 2'. It ends up that property owners get very protective of their property lines being exact.	+	:It's the punchline from the absurdity that two entirely separate units existed for which even over a great distance of 42.2 million feet, the variance would be only 84 feet. I had projects come to a screeching halt when the survey/international issue made stuff be wrong by less than 2'. It ends up that property owners get very protective of their property lines being exact. {{unsigned ip\|172.70.126.49\|21:02, 16 February 2024}}

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	I know that this is a semantically annoying nit to pick, but the overall theme of the comic is about the difference between the two original measurements, not how much .016 can make in measurements. So why is decimal variance the punchline? 1245 UTC, 6 Feb 2024. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.34.122\|172.70.34.122]] 12:47, 6 February 2024 (UTC)		I know that this is a semantically annoying nit to pick, but the overall theme of the comic is about the difference between the two original measurements, not how much .016 can make in measurements. So why is decimal variance the punchline? 1245 UTC, 6 Feb 2024. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.34.122\|172.70.34.122]] 12:47, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
		+	:It's the punchline from the absurdity that two entirely separate units existed for which even over a great distance of 42.2 million feet, the variance would be only 84 feet. I had projects come to a screeching halt when the survey/international issue made stuff be wrong by less than 2'. It ends up that property owners get very protective of their property lines being exact.

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 Until the British Ordnance Survey adopted the metre
-they used a foot of 0.304 800 749 1 metres.
+they used a foot of 0.304 800 749 1 metres. [[User:RogerWTurner|RogerWTurner]] ([[User talk:RogerWTurner|talk]]) 19:34, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
 : So US Miles, UK Miles, and "International" "Imperial" Miles are all different?[[Special:Contributions/172.69.194.202|172.69.194.202]] 12:10, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
 :: US and UK/Commonwealth "statute miles" are 1609.344 metres (exactly, since 1959). Though based upon shared origin of 5280 (English) feet. That's probably as International as you can get. (5280*610nm is 3.2208mm of difference if you get mixed up.) But it took a while to even get to "roughly that exact".

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	I would think 0.016 miles would be close enough for the NIST team to be like "There he is!", :) I love how it looks like they're both on the same lake, what's with "being unusually close compared to what the comic seems to depict", to me it's DEPICTING them pretty close! [[User:NiceGuy1\|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1\|talk]]) 06:45, 3 February 2024 (UTC)		I would think 0.016 miles would be close enough for the NIST team to be like "There he is!", :) I love how it looks like they're both on the same lake, what's with "being unusually close compared to what the comic seems to depict", to me it's DEPICTING them pretty close! [[User:NiceGuy1\|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1\|talk]]) 06:45, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

−	I know that this is a semantically annoying nit to pick, but the overall theme of the comic is about the difference between the two original measurements, not how much .016 can make in measurements. So why is decimal variance the punchline?	+	I know that this is a semantically annoying nit to pick, but the overall theme of the comic is about the difference between the two original measurements, not how much .016 can make in measurements. So why is decimal variance the punchline? 1245 UTC, 6 Feb 2024. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.34.122\|172.70.34.122]] 12:47, 6 February 2024 (UTC)