Talk:2909: Moon Landing Mission Profiles - Revision history

172.69.195.172 at 13:26, 16 April 2024

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162.158.154.170: add more about trout

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add more about trout

162.158.159.194: answer about trout

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answer about trout

172.68.3.44 at 17:42, 22 March 2024

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172.70.160.166 at 11:43, 22 March 2024

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172.70.90.190 at 11:41, 22 March 2024

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162.158.94.201 at 07:15, 22 March 2024

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172.69.194.81 at 13:04, 21 March 2024

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141.101.98.76 at 10:18, 21 March 2024

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172.69.194.225 at 09:17, 21 March 2024

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 :: > Anglers often report that trout may be caught all night long on a bright moonlight night. It seems reasonable that when fish feed at night they may have a tendency to feed less than usual dur- ing the day, which in turn may affect the catch.
 :: Also:
-:: > The idea behind fishing by moon phases is that the bigger the tide, the more active the fish. The strongest tides happen twice a month: during a new moon, when the sun and moon are both pulling in the same direction, and during the full moon, they're pulling on either side of the planet.
+:: > The idea behind fishing by moon phases is that the bigger the tide, the more active the fish. The strongest tides happen twice a month: during a new moon, when the sun and moon are both pulling in the same direction, and during the full moon, they're pulling on either side of the planet. {{unsigned ip|162.158.154.170|21:07, 15 April 2024}}
 The choice of Lunar Orbit Rendezvous wasn't easy for the Apollo planners.  Thanks to John Houbolt, the "voice in the wilderness" as he called himself, NASA finally adopted LOR rather than Direct Ascent or Earth Orbit Rendezvous they were planning in the early 60's.  [https://www.popsci.com/blog-network/vintage-space/remembering-john-houbolt-nasas-voice-wilderness/ Remembering John Houbolt, NASA’s Voice in the Wilderness]   [[User:Orion205|Orion205]] ([[User talk:Orion205|talk]]) 01:09, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

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 :: from a quick google search on "Trout and the moon":
 :: > Anglers often report that trout may be caught all night long on a bright moonlight night. It seems reasonable that when fish feed at night they may have a tendency to feed less than usual dur- ing the day, which in turn may affect the catch.
 The choice of Lunar Orbit Rendezvous wasn't easy for the Apollo planners.  Thanks to John Houbolt, the "voice in the wilderness" as he called himself, NASA finally adopted LOR rather than Direct Ascent or Earth Orbit Rendezvous they were planning in the early 60's.  [https://www.popsci.com/blog-network/vintage-space/remembering-john-houbolt-nasas-voice-wilderness/ Remembering John Houbolt, NASA’s Voice in the Wilderness]   [[User:Orion205|Orion205]] ([[User talk:Orion205|talk]]) 01:09, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

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 I see Lunar Earth Rendezvous will be bad for Earth's climate, tides, stock markets and ecosystems. Has anyone considered the impact this will have on the trout population? [[Special:Contributions/172.70.111.48|172.70.111.48]] 00:02, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
 :What is the deal with trout? I’ve seen trout population mentioned in 2 places online. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.3.44|172.68.3.44]] 17:42, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
 The choice of Lunar Orbit Rendezvous wasn't easy for the Apollo planners.  Thanks to John Houbolt, the "voice in the wilderness" as he called himself, NASA finally adopted LOR rather than Direct Ascent or Earth Orbit Rendezvous they were planning in the early 60's.  [https://www.popsci.com/blog-network/vintage-space/remembering-john-houbolt-nasas-voice-wilderness/ Remembering John Houbolt, NASA’s Voice in the Wilderness]   [[User:Orion205|Orion205]] ([[User talk:Orion205|talk]]) 01:09, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

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	I see Lunar Earth Rendezvous will be bad for Earth's climate, tides, stock markets and ecosystems. Has anyone considered the impact this will have on the trout population? [[Special:Contributions/172.70.111.48\|172.70.111.48]] 00:02, 21 March 2024 (UTC)		I see Lunar Earth Rendezvous will be bad for Earth's climate, tides, stock markets and ecosystems. Has anyone considered the impact this will have on the trout population? [[Special:Contributions/172.70.111.48\|172.70.111.48]] 00:02, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
		+	:What is the deal with trout? I’ve seen trout population mentioned in 2 places online. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.3.44\|172.68.3.44]] 17:42, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

	The choice of Lunar Orbit Rendezvous wasn't easy for the Apollo planners. Thanks to John Houbolt, the "voice in the wilderness" as he called himself, NASA finally adopted LOR rather than Direct Ascent or Earth Orbit Rendezvous they were planning in the early 60's. [https://www.popsci.com/blog-network/vintage-space/remembering-john-houbolt-nasas-voice-wilderness/ Remembering John Houbolt, NASA’s Voice in the Wilderness] [[User:Orion205\|Orion205]] ([[User talk:Orion205\|talk]]) 01:09, 21 March 2024 (UTC)		The choice of Lunar Orbit Rendezvous wasn't easy for the Apollo planners. Thanks to John Houbolt, the "voice in the wilderness" as he called himself, NASA finally adopted LOR rather than Direct Ascent or Earth Orbit Rendezvous they were planning in the early 60's. [https://www.popsci.com/blog-network/vintage-space/remembering-john-houbolt-nasas-voice-wilderness/ Remembering John Houbolt, NASA’s Voice in the Wilderness] [[User:Orion205\|Orion205]] ([[User talk:Orion205\|talk]]) 01:09, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

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 ::::*Pretty much every plan (past and current) has ''whatever'' kind (and state) of vehicle that departs the Moon then coming straight back into the re-entry (though discarding the last bit of rocketry below the capsule might still be required).
 ::::**It's possible that future missions will add a post-landing EOR (or similar), perhaps so that Orion's successor can be a reusable ferry back and forth between Earth orbit (ISS/whatever) and Moon orbit (Lunar Gateway/etc) and not need the capsule heat-shield/parachutes, instead crews can hitch rides up/down on Crew Dragons or similar HLSs.
-::::Perhaps let's call the Artemis plan something like Multiple Rocket Earth Orbit Refueling Lunar Orbit Rendezvous/Reusable Rockets (MREORLOR/RR, but only cats can pronounce that properly).
+::::Perhaps let's call the Artemis plan something like Multiple Rocket Earth Orbit Refueling Lunar Orbit Rendezvous/Reusable Rockets (MREORLOR/RR, but only cats can pronounce that properly). [[Special:Contributions/172.70.160.166|172.70.160.166]] 11:43, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

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 :: Artemis 3 (2026) is planned to be the first crewed lunar landing. The mission depends on a support mission to place a Starship Human Landing System (HLS) in a near-rectilinear halo orbit (NRHO) of the Moon prior to the launch of SLS/Orion. After Starship HLS reaches NRHO, SLS/Orion will send the Orion spacecraft with a crew of four to rendezvous and dock with HLS. [...]
 ::...so it's a kind of Lunar Orbit Rendezvous With Multiple Launches (not sure what its official name is, probably something as pithy as "Skycrane" was). Certainly not unambiguously any one of the main types considered for Apollo/in this comic. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.194.225|172.69.194.225]] 09:17, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
 ::: So it's both an earth orbit rendezvous and a lunar orbit rendezvous? --[[Special:Contributions/162.158.94.201|162.158.94.201]] 07:15, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

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	Getting astronauts to the moon isn't hard. Getting them there (and back) in one piece is.[[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.76\|141.101.98.76]] 10:18, 21 March 2024 (UTC)		Getting astronauts to the moon isn't hard. Getting them there (and back) in one piece is.[[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.76\|141.101.98.76]] 10:18, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
		+	:[[2906: Earth\|Yes, Carl...]] ;) [[Special:Contributions/172.69.194.81\|172.69.194.81]] 13:04, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

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	Randall's been thinking a lot about space recently. No complaints from me. [[User:MrCandela\|MrCandela]] ([[User talk:MrCandela\|talk]]) 02:08, 21 March 2024 (UTC)		Randall's been thinking a lot about space recently. No complaints from me. [[User:MrCandela\|MrCandela]] ([[User talk:MrCandela\|talk]]) 02:08, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
	: He's probably playing KSP2 :D [[User:Elektrizikekswerk\|Elektrizikekswerk]] ([[User talk:Elektrizikekswerk\|talk]]) 08:35, 21 March 2024 (UTC)		: He's probably playing KSP2 :D [[User:Elektrizikekswerk\|Elektrizikekswerk]] ([[User talk:Elektrizikekswerk\|talk]]) 08:35, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
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		+	Getting astronauts to the moon isn't hard. Getting them there (and back) in one piece is.[[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.76\|141.101.98.76]] 10:18, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

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 It feels like it needs an addition of more detail from the planned Artemis mission. In several ways it's going to be a "multiple rockets, assembled in orbit" plan (if not Earth orbit, then Lunar), with SLS and Orion scheduled to be cooperating with the Lunar-Starship launch (later, maybe, other independently craft)... which is itself almost a "one big rocket" solution, sticky-taped onto the plan. That's with or without the addition of the dedicated and semi-manned Lunar Gateway moon-orbiting element. I mean, most of the prototypical Apollo-era plans (DA, EOR, LSR and LOR) had their own crazy bits to them, and the full Artemis premise definitely seems crazy as well, if only because the LOR version got chosen for Apollo and pretty much got proven to work. (Or worked enough to even get 13 back home safely!) [[Special:Contributions/172.70.85.254|172.70.85.254]] 21:04, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
+:Which mission profile will the artemis missions use? --[[Special:Contributions/162.158.202.135|162.158.202.135]] 06:58, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
-Which mission profile will the artemis missions use? --[[Special:Contributions/162.158.202.135|162.158.202.135]] 06:58, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
+::From wikipedia:
 I see Lunar Earth Rendezvous will be bad for Earth's climate, tides, stock markets and ecosystems. Has anyone considered the impact this will have on the trout population? [[Special:Contributions/172.70.111.48|172.70.111.48]] 00:02, 21 March 2024 (UTC)