Talk:2973: Ferris Wheels - Revision history

CalibansCreations at 10:43, 2 October 2024

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Hkmaly: /* Just HOW fast? */

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‎Just HOW fast?

172.69.223.108: Noted fire in Germany.

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Noted fire in Germany.

172.71.22.99 at 14:44, 19 August 2024

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141.101.98.87 at 13:59, 19 August 2024

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162.158.74.119 at 23:48, 18 August 2024

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172.68.205.179 at 23:46, 18 August 2024

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172.71.146.49 at 21:06, 18 August 2024

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Kynde at 19:58, 17 August 2024

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Kynde: /* Just HOW fast? */

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‎Just HOW fast?

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 Ferb, I know how we're gonna execute war criminals today! [[Special:Contributions/141.101.99.88|141.101.99.88]] 10:52, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
 : Hey, where's Perry's corpse? [[User:B_for_brain|B for brain]] ([[User_talk:B_for_brain|talk]]) ([https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCg4bo-hj-mDyOOUp_Yp0pug youtube channel] [https://bforbrain.weebly.com/ wobsite (supposed to be a blag)]) 17:46, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
 Assuming they're 'travelling' wheels, an [https://www.fabbrigroup.com/ferris-giant-wheels/ferris-wheels-14-40/ferris-wheel-26/ 18 gondola version], somewhat like the ones depicted (with a little artistic licence), carries up to 108 people at a time and 720 passengers per hour. So 9 minutes per person-trip (not sure we can say that's one full turn, could be a multiple thereof, depending upon how it is operated, so 1/4.5 rpm or 1/3 rpm, etc). As a further datum point. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.205.179|172.68.205.179]] 23:46, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
 There has just been an unpleasant fire on a Ferris wheel in Germany ([https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/aug/18/more-than-20-injured-in-ferris-wheel-fire-at-music-festival-in-germany Guardian article]). Was somebody trying this? [[Special:Contributions/172.69.223.108|172.69.223.108]] 17:43, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

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 Given that air resistance increases exponentially with air speed, this setup would actually act as its own speed regulator, with the main factor being the torque of the power source. Which wheel is powered would not matter much [[Special:Contributions/172.71.118.167|172.71.118.167]] 22:05, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
 :Drag is quadratic, not exponential. You aren't trying to quantum tunnel through the air until you reach relativistic velocities, and then length contraction means going faster decreases drag, which doesn't help regulate speed at all. [[Special:Contributions/172.71.146.49|172.71.146.49]] 21:06, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
 If you powered the middle one, you'd end up with one moderately exciting ride, one normal ride and one really long ride, which would be highly impractical, but not overly dangerous (depending on the structural strength of the fast wheel). [[Special:Contributions/172.71.142.88|172.71.142.88]] 23:08, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

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	Assuming they're 'travelling' wheels, an [https://www.fabbrigroup.com/ferris-giant-wheels/ferris-wheels-14-40/ferris-wheel-26/ 18 gondola version], somewhat like the ones depicted (with a little artistic licence), carries up to 108 people at a time and 720 passengers per hour. So 9 minutes per person-trip (not sure we can say that's one full turn, could be a multiple thereof, depending upon how it is operated, so 1/4.5 rpm or 1/3 rpm, etc). As a further datum point. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.205.179\|172.68.205.179]] 23:46, 18 August 2024 (UTC)		Assuming they're 'travelling' wheels, an [https://www.fabbrigroup.com/ferris-giant-wheels/ferris-wheels-14-40/ferris-wheel-26/ 18 gondola version], somewhat like the ones depicted (with a little artistic licence), carries up to 108 people at a time and 720 passengers per hour. So 9 minutes per person-trip (not sure we can say that's one full turn, could be a multiple thereof, depending upon how it is operated, so 1/4.5 rpm or 1/3 rpm, etc). As a further datum point. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.205.179\|172.68.205.179]] 23:46, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
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		+	There has just been an unpleasant fire on a Ferris wheel in Germany ([https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/aug/18/more-than-20-injured-in-ferris-wheel-fire-at-music-festival-in-germany Guardian article]). Was somebody trying this? [[Special:Contributions/172.69.223.108\|172.69.223.108]] 17:43, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

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	:Also, real ferris wheels stop and start so new passengers can get on. Not only would that change the rim speed vs RPM figures but it would make it hard to unload the corpses and load fresh victims on to the right wheel. :( Source: My summer working as a carny. I was on the tilt-o-wheel but the ferris wheel was right next to it. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.34.126\|172.69.34.126]] 13:53, 17 August 2024 (UTC)		:Also, real ferris wheels stop and start so new passengers can get on. Not only would that change the rim speed vs RPM figures but it would make it hard to unload the corpses and load fresh victims on to the right wheel. :( Source: My summer working as a carny. I was on the tilt-o-wheel but the ferris wheel was right next to it. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.34.126\|172.69.34.126]] 13:53, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
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		+	::I'm not sure that the physics are depicted accurately enough for that. The net acceleration should be 1g gravity down, plus a radial component depending on the rotational velocity. The 3 o'clock and 9 o'clock positions should have the maximum deflection from hanging vertically. That's kinda the case on the 3 o'clock side, but not the case at 9 o'clock. Note, that ignores wind resistance, but even at the higher rotational speed, wind resistance should be pretty negligible for the middle wheel (9 mph if the existing discussion is to be believed). [[Special:Contributions/172.71.22.99\|172.71.22.99]] 14:44, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

	;Are the transcript eds going to go into the speeds depicted?		;Are the transcript eds going to go into the speeds depicted?

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	I once attached the motor of a Lego ferris wheel directly to its axis instead of the beginning of the gearing system. Not only did all the cabins fly across the room, the entire thing dismantled itself. Worth it! [[User:Fabian42\|Fabian42]] ([[User talk:Fabian42\|talk]]) 01:03, 17 August 2024 (UTC)		I once attached the motor of a Lego ferris wheel directly to its axis instead of the beginning of the gearing system. Not only did all the cabins fly across the room, the entire thing dismantled itself. Worth it! [[User:Fabian42\|Fabian42]] ([[User talk:Fabian42\|talk]]) 01:03, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
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		+	Re. the trivia - the second wheel may have all its spokes, but the one near the six o'clock position doesn't appear to be moving, which is perhaps even more worrying than the missing one on the first wheel.[[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.87\|141.101.98.87]] 13:59, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

	== Just HOW fast? ==		== Just HOW fast? ==

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	: Hey, where's Perry's corpse? [[User:B_for_brain\|B for brain]] ([[User_talk:B_for_brain\|talk]]) ([https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCg4bo-hj-mDyOOUp_Yp0pug youtube channel] [https://bforbrain.weebly.com/ wobsite (supposed to be a blag)]) 17:46, 17 August 2024 (UTC)		: Hey, where's Perry's corpse? [[User:B_for_brain\|B for brain]] ([[User_talk:B_for_brain\|talk]]) ([https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCg4bo-hj-mDyOOUp_Yp0pug youtube channel] [https://bforbrain.weebly.com/ wobsite (supposed to be a blag)]) 17:46, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

−	Assuming they're 'travelling' wheels, an [https://www.fabbrigroup.com/ferris-giant-wheels/ferris-wheels-14-40/ferris-wheel-26/ 18 gondola version], somewhat like the ones depicted (with a little artistic licence), carries up to 108 people at a time and 720 passengers per hour. So 9 minutes per person-trip. As a further datum point. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.205.179\|172.68.205.179]] 23:46, 18 August 2024 (UTC)	+	Assuming they're 'travelling' wheels, an [https://www.fabbrigroup.com/ferris-giant-wheels/ferris-wheels-14-40/ferris-wheel-26/ 18 gondola version], somewhat like the ones depicted (with a little artistic licence), carries up to 108 people at a time and 720 passengers per hour. So 9 minutes per person-trip (not sure we can say that's one full turn, could be a multiple thereof, depending upon how it is operated, so 1/4.5 rpm or 1/3 rpm, etc). As a further datum point. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.205.179\|172.68.205.179]] 23:46, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

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	Ferb, I know how we're gonna execute war criminals today! [[Special:Contributions/141.101.99.88\|141.101.99.88]] 10:52, 17 August 2024 (UTC)		Ferb, I know how we're gonna execute war criminals today! [[Special:Contributions/141.101.99.88\|141.101.99.88]] 10:52, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
	: Hey, where's Perry's corpse? [[User:B_for_brain\|B for brain]] ([[User_talk:B_for_brain\|talk]]) ([https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCg4bo-hj-mDyOOUp_Yp0pug youtube channel] [https://bforbrain.weebly.com/ wobsite (supposed to be a blag)]) 17:46, 17 August 2024 (UTC)		: Hey, where's Perry's corpse? [[User:B_for_brain\|B for brain]] ([[User_talk:B_for_brain\|talk]]) ([https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCg4bo-hj-mDyOOUp_Yp0pug youtube channel] [https://bforbrain.weebly.com/ wobsite (supposed to be a blag)]) 17:46, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
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		+	Assuming they're 'travelling' wheels, an [https://www.fabbrigroup.com/ferris-giant-wheels/ferris-wheels-14-40/ferris-wheel-26/ 18 gondola version], somewhat like the ones depicted (with a little artistic licence), carries up to 108 people at a time and 720 passengers per hour. So 9 minutes per person-trip. As a further datum point. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.205.179\|172.68.205.179]] 23:46, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

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	Given that air resistance increases exponentially with air speed, this setup would actually act as its own speed regulator, with the main factor being the torque of the power source. Which wheel is powered would not matter much [[Special:Contributions/172.71.118.167\|172.71.118.167]] 22:05, 16 August 2024 (UTC)		Given that air resistance increases exponentially with air speed, this setup would actually act as its own speed regulator, with the main factor being the torque of the power source. Which wheel is powered would not matter much [[Special:Contributions/172.71.118.167\|172.71.118.167]] 22:05, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
		+	:Drag is quadratic, not exponential. You aren't trying to quantum tunnel through the air until you reach relativistic velocities, and then length contraction means going faster decreases drag, which doesn't help regulate speed at all. [[Special:Contributions/172.71.146.49\|172.71.146.49]] 21:06, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

	If you powered the middle one, you'd end up with one moderately exciting ride, one normal ride and one really long ride, which would be highly impractical, but not overly dangerous (depending on the structural strength of the fast wheel). [[Special:Contributions/172.71.142.88\|172.71.142.88]] 23:08, 16 August 2024 (UTC)		If you powered the middle one, you'd end up with one moderately exciting ride, one normal ride and one really long ride, which would be highly impractical, but not overly dangerous (depending on the structural strength of the fast wheel). [[Special:Contributions/172.71.142.88\|172.71.142.88]] 23:08, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

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 There's no category for "X fired me because" comics. There probably should be. [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 20:06, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
 :If you can list some more than this and the one already mentioned [[2935: Ocean Loop]] it might be relevant. --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 19:31, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
 I once attached the motor of a Lego ferris wheel directly to its axis instead of the beginning of the gearing system. Not only did all the cabins fly across the room, the entire thing dismantled itself. Worth it! [[User:Fabian42|Fabian42]] ([[User talk:Fabian42|talk]]) 01:03, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

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	Ferb, I know how we're gonna execute war criminals today! [[Special:Contributions/141.101.99.88\|141.101.99.88]] 10:52, 17 August 2024 (UTC)		Ferb, I know how we're gonna execute war criminals today! [[Special:Contributions/141.101.99.88\|141.101.99.88]] 10:52, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
−	: Hey, where's Perry's corpse?	+	: Hey, where's Perry's corpse? [[User:B_for_brain\|B for brain]] ([[User_talk:B_for_brain\|talk]]) ([https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCg4bo-hj-mDyOOUp_Yp0pug youtube channel] [https://bforbrain.weebly.com/ wobsite (supposed to be a blag)]) 17:46, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
−	[[User:B_for_brain\|B for brain]] ([[User_talk:B_for_brain\|talk]]) ([https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCg4bo-hj-mDyOOUp_Yp0pug youtube channel] [https://bforbrain.weebly.com/ wobsite (supposed to be a blag)]) 17:46, 17 August 2024 (UTC)