Talk:2977: Three Kinds of Research - Revision history

108.162.238.35 at 13:51, 11 October 2024

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172.71.31.104 at 13:49, 11 October 2024

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Rps: example of the 3rd kind of research

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example of the 3rd kind of research

172.70.91.53 at 11:11, 16 September 2024

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172.70.91.76: Signed, having forgotten just now.

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Signed, having forgotten just now.

172.70.91.76 at 11:02, 16 September 2024

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172.70.90.123 at 23:55, 15 September 2024

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	An example of the 3rd kind of research: https://x.com/jasoncrawford/status/1835819853157962137 : Listing "every Anglo-Saxon whose name we know". [[User:Rps\|Rps]] ([[User talk:Rps\|talk]])		An example of the 3rd kind of research: https://x.com/jasoncrawford/status/1835819853157962137 : Listing "every Anglo-Saxon whose name we know". [[User:Rps\|Rps]] ([[User talk:Rps\|talk]])

−	Is this really Miss Lenhart? She isn't teaching nor is named as such here, I'm willing to bet this is just Blondie	+	Is this really Miss Lenhart? She isn't teaching nor is named as such here, I'm willing to bet this is just Blondie [[Special:Contributions/108.162.238.35\|108.162.238.35]] 13:51, 11 October 2024 (UTC)

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	An example of the 3rd kind of research: https://x.com/jasoncrawford/status/1835819853157962137 : Listing "every Anglo-Saxon whose name we know". [[User:Rps\|Rps]] ([[User talk:Rps\|talk]])		An example of the 3rd kind of research: https://x.com/jasoncrawford/status/1835819853157962137 : Listing "every Anglo-Saxon whose name we know". [[User:Rps\|Rps]] ([[User talk:Rps\|talk]])
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		+	Is this really Miss Lenhart? She isn't teaching nor is named as such here, I'm willing to bet this is just Blondie

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	:::Hairy might just be the only (or first) one that got back from the woods with the results, or the ''most'' presentable and/or effusively capable for the task of public speaking. I doubt the other two were sole-authors*, either, of their own publications (assumed not an actual doctoral 'viva', which would be more personal and individual) and a double-act (or group) presentation team isn't generally the norm unless you're going for actual theatrics in announcing your (entertaining) results to the world. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.91.76\|172.70.91.76]] 11:03, 16 September 2024 (UTC)		:::Hairy might just be the only (or first) one that got back from the woods with the results, or the ''most'' presentable and/or effusively capable for the task of public speaking. I doubt the other two were sole-authors*, either, of their own publications (assumed not an actual doctoral 'viva', which would be more personal and individual) and a double-act (or group) presentation team isn't generally the norm unless you're going for actual theatrics in announcing your (entertaining) results to the world. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.91.76\|172.70.91.76]] 11:03, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
	:::<nowiki>*</nowiki> - meant to say, sole authors of the paper that described how "we" (their team) provided the presentation material. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.91.53\|172.70.91.53]] 11:10, 16 September 2024 (UTC)		:::<nowiki>*</nowiki> - meant to say, sole authors of the paper that described how "we" (their team) provided the presentation material. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.91.53\|172.70.91.53]] 11:10, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
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		+	An example of the 3rd kind of research: https://x.com/jasoncrawford/status/1835819853157962137 : Listing "every Anglo-Saxon whose name we know". [[User:Rps\|Rps]] ([[User talk:Rps\|talk]])

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 ::I disagree. Given the scale of the endeavour as demonstrated by how dishevelled Hairy looks, it seems to me that the idea is that Hairy made that map *alone*. I guess it's possible that the title text is referring to multiple people, but I never interpreted it like that. The map being a solo project also fits with the comedy of the comic.[[Special:Contributions/172.70.90.123|172.70.90.123]] 23:55, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
 :::Hairy might just be the only (or first) one that got back from the woods with the results, or the ''most'' presentable and/or effusively capable for the task of public speaking. I doubt the other two were sole-authors*, either, of their own publications (assumed not an actual doctoral 'viva', which would be more personal and individual) and a double-act  (or group) presentation team isn't generally the norm unless you're going for actual theatrics in announcing your (entertaining) results to the world. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.91.76|172.70.91.76]] 11:03, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
-:::* - meant to say, sole authors of the paper that described how "we" (their team) provided the presentation material. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.91.53|172.70.91.53]] 11:10, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
+:::<nowiki>*</nowiki> - meant to say, sole authors of the paper that described how "we" (their team) provided the presentation material. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.91.53|172.70.91.53]] 11:10, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

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 :Trouble is, the absolutely most likely explanation is that it was a their-plural. Then that it's their-indetermined (by the speaker). The their-otherness (self-proclaimed alternate-gender) option is a valid but still exceptional reason, in comparison. If in doubt about ''which'' decision was made, ''we'' could fall back to number two (if we're aware enough about sensitivity), but only because we're not yet entrusted with the original reason, not knowing about ''their'' knowledge (or otherwise), and attitude, of Hairy's particular scenario. Until someone says "my pronouns are...", you could just as much annoy them by hypercorrecting the common assumptions. (There are certain types I wouldn't mind annoying, because one needn't tolerate intolerance, but there's not just that to consider.) [[Special:Contributions/172.70.91.100|172.70.91.100]] 22:15, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
 ::I disagree. Given the scale of the endeavour as demonstrated by how dishevelled Hairy looks, it seems to me that the idea is that Hairy made that map *alone*. I guess it's possible that the title text is referring to multiple people, but I never interpreted it like that. The map being a solo project also fits with the comedy of the comic.[[Special:Contributions/172.70.90.123|172.70.90.123]] 23:55, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
-:::Hairy might just be the only (or first) one that got back from the woods with the results, or the ''most'' presentable and/or effusively capable for the task of public speaking. I doubt the other two were sole-authors, either, of their own publications (assumed not an actual doctoral 'viva', which would be more personal and individual) and a double-act  (or group) presentation team isn't generally the norm unless you're going for actual theatrics in announcing your (entertaining) results to the world. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.91.76|172.70.91.76]] 11:03, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
+:::Hairy might just be the only (or first) one that got back from the woods with the results, or the ''most'' presentable and/or effusively capable for the task of public speaking. I doubt the other two were sole-authors*, either, of their own publications (assumed not an actual doctoral 'viva', which would be more personal and individual) and a double-act  (or group) presentation team isn't generally the norm unless you're going for actual theatrics in announcing your (entertaining) results to the world. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.91.76|172.70.91.76]] 11:03, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

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	:Trouble is, the absolutely most likely explanation is that it was a their-plural. Then that it's their-indetermined (by the speaker). The their-otherness (self-proclaimed alternate-gender) option is a valid but still exceptional reason, in comparison. If in doubt about ''which'' decision was made, ''we'' could fall back to number two (if we're aware enough about sensitivity), but only because we're not yet entrusted with the original reason, not knowing about ''their'' knowledge (or otherwise), and attitude, of Hairy's particular scenario. Until someone says "my pronouns are...", you could just as much annoy them by hypercorrecting the common assumptions. (There are certain types I wouldn't mind annoying, because one needn't tolerate intolerance, but there's not just that to consider.) [[Special:Contributions/172.70.91.100\|172.70.91.100]] 22:15, 15 September 2024 (UTC)		:Trouble is, the absolutely most likely explanation is that it was a their-plural. Then that it's their-indetermined (by the speaker). The their-otherness (self-proclaimed alternate-gender) option is a valid but still exceptional reason, in comparison. If in doubt about ''which'' decision was made, ''we'' could fall back to number two (if we're aware enough about sensitivity), but only because we're not yet entrusted with the original reason, not knowing about ''their'' knowledge (or otherwise), and attitude, of Hairy's particular scenario. Until someone says "my pronouns are...", you could just as much annoy them by hypercorrecting the common assumptions. (There are certain types I wouldn't mind annoying, because one needn't tolerate intolerance, but there's not just that to consider.) [[Special:Contributions/172.70.91.100\|172.70.91.100]] 22:15, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
	::I disagree. Given the scale of the endeavour as demonstrated by how dishevelled Hairy looks, it seems to me that the idea is that Hairy made that map alone. I guess it's possible that the title text is referring to multiple people, but I never interpreted it like that. The map being a solo project also fits with the comedy of the comic.[[Special:Contributions/172.70.90.123\|172.70.90.123]] 23:55, 15 September 2024 (UTC)		::I disagree. Given the scale of the endeavour as demonstrated by how dishevelled Hairy looks, it seems to me that the idea is that Hairy made that map alone. I guess it's possible that the title text is referring to multiple people, but I never interpreted it like that. The map being a solo project also fits with the comedy of the comic.[[Special:Contributions/172.70.90.123\|172.70.90.123]] 23:55, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
		+	:::Hairy might just be the only (or first) one that got back from the woods with the results, or the ''most'' presentable and/or effusively capable for the task of public speaking. I doubt the other two were sole-authors, either, of their own publications (assumed not an actual doctoral 'viva', which would be more personal and individual) and a double-act (or group) presentation team isn't generally the norm unless you're going for actual theatrics in announcing your (entertaining) results to the world.

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	I previously added a paragraph about Hairy's gender which then got removed because it was bloated by further edits. (At least, I hope that was the reason.) I've reintroduced a more concise explanation that should stand the test of time as it is both interesting and important IMHO. Please note that I have deliberately not used the term 'non-binary' as this is not a catch-all term for any gender-diverse individual. I like the term 'gender-expansive' but not everyone knows what that means. :-)[[Special:Contributions/172.70.91.254\|172.70.91.254]] 18:34, 15 September 2024 (UTC)		I previously added a paragraph about Hairy's gender which then got removed because it was bloated by further edits. (At least, I hope that was the reason.) I've reintroduced a more concise explanation that should stand the test of time as it is both interesting and important IMHO. Please note that I have deliberately not used the term 'non-binary' as this is not a catch-all term for any gender-diverse individual. I like the term 'gender-expansive' but not everyone knows what that means. :-)[[Special:Contributions/172.70.91.254\|172.70.91.254]] 18:34, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
	:Trouble is, the absolutely most likely explanation is that it was a their-plural. Then that it's their-indetermined (by the speaker). The their-otherness (self-proclaimed alternate-gender) option is a valid but still exceptional reason, in comparison. If in doubt about ''which'' decision was made, ''we'' could fall back to number two (if we're aware enough about sensitivity), but only because we're not yet entrusted with the original reason, not knowing about ''their'' knowledge (or otherwise), and attitude, of Hairy's particular scenario. Until someone says "my pronouns are...", you could just as much annoy them by hypercorrecting the common assumptions. (There are certain types I wouldn't mind annoying, because one needn't tolerate intolerance, but there's not just that to consider.) [[Special:Contributions/172.70.91.100\|172.70.91.100]] 22:15, 15 September 2024 (UTC)		:Trouble is, the absolutely most likely explanation is that it was a their-plural. Then that it's their-indetermined (by the speaker). The their-otherness (self-proclaimed alternate-gender) option is a valid but still exceptional reason, in comparison. If in doubt about ''which'' decision was made, ''we'' could fall back to number two (if we're aware enough about sensitivity), but only because we're not yet entrusted with the original reason, not knowing about ''their'' knowledge (or otherwise), and attitude, of Hairy's particular scenario. Until someone says "my pronouns are...", you could just as much annoy them by hypercorrecting the common assumptions. (There are certain types I wouldn't mind annoying, because one needn't tolerate intolerance, but there's not just that to consider.) [[Special:Contributions/172.70.91.100\|172.70.91.100]] 22:15, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
		+	::I disagree. Given the scale of the endeavour as demonstrated by how dishevelled Hairy looks, it seems to me that the idea is that Hairy made that map alone. I guess it's possible that the title text is referring to multiple people, but I never interpreted it like that. The map being a solo project also fits with the comedy of the comic.[[Special:Contributions/172.70.90.123\|172.70.90.123]] 23:55, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

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	I previously added a paragraph about Hairy's gender which then got removed because it was bloated by further edits. (At least, I hope that was the reason.) I've reintroduced a more concise explanation that should stand the test of time as it is both interesting and important IMHO. Please note that I have deliberately not used the term 'non-binary' as this is not a catch-all term for any gender-diverse individual. I like the term 'gender-expansive' but not everyone knows what that means. :-)[[Special:Contributions/172.70.91.254\|172.70.91.254]] 18:34, 15 September 2024 (UTC)		I previously added a paragraph about Hairy's gender which then got removed because it was bloated by further edits. (At least, I hope that was the reason.) I've reintroduced a more concise explanation that should stand the test of time as it is both interesting and important IMHO. Please note that I have deliberately not used the term 'non-binary' as this is not a catch-all term for any gender-diverse individual. I like the term 'gender-expansive' but not everyone knows what that means. :-)[[Special:Contributions/172.70.91.254\|172.70.91.254]] 18:34, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
		+	:Trouble is, the absolutely most likely explanation is that it was a their-plural. Then that it's their-indetermined (by the speaker). The their-otherness (self-proclaimed alternate-gender) option is a valid but still exceptional reason, in comparison. If in doubt about ''which'' decision was made, ''we'' could fall back to number two (if we're aware enough about sensitivity), but only because we're not yet entrusted with the original reason, not knowing about ''their'' knowledge (or otherwise), and attitude, of Hairy's particular scenario. Until someone says "my pronouns are...", you could just as much annoy them by hypercorrecting the common assumptions. (There are certain types I wouldn't mind annoying, because one needn't tolerate intolerance, but there's not just that to consider.) [[Special:Contributions/172.70.91.100\|172.70.91.100]] 22:15, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

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	The state of California did actually map every tree in the state: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/heres-map-all-trees-california-180955708/		The state of California did actually map every tree in the state: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/heres-map-all-trees-california-180955708/
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		+	I previously added a paragraph about Hairy's gender which then got removed because it was bloated by further edits. (At least, I hope that was the reason.) I've reintroduced a more concise explanation that should stand the test of time as it is both interesting and important IMHO. Please note that I have deliberately not used the term 'non-binary' as this is not a catch-all term for any gender-diverse individual. I like the term 'gender-expansive' but not everyone knows what that means. :-)[[Special:Contributions/172.70.91.254\|172.70.91.254]] 18:34, 15 September 2024 (UTC)