Talk:2996: CIDABM - Revision history

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 Still makes more sense than BRICS.  [[Special:Contributions/172.71.144.34|172.71.144.34]] 19:35, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
-I for one think Isla Grande de Tierra del Fuego is a classic example of an island that does NOT dangle awkwardly at the bottom of a mainland. It's almost a case study in graceful, near-seamless islandic placement relative to the mainland, such that if you informed someone that it's technically an island they may do a double-take and have to squint at a map before they believe you. As further evidence for this perspective, I commend to the reader [[2256: Bad Map Projection: South America]] where IGdTdF is only represented as truly distinct from the mainland in 1 out of the 36 South Americas represented - and this is probably more for comedy value than anything else, since in this map, IGdTdF ITSELF has been replaced by another entire (and extremely small) South America! -MeZimm [[Special:Contributions/172.68.3.4|172.68.3.4]] 22:42, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
+I for one think Isla Grande de Tierra del Fuego is a classic example of an island that does NOT dangle awkwardly at the bottom of a mainland. It's almost a case study in graceful, near-seamless islandic placement relative to the mainland, such that if you informed someone that it's technically an island they may do a double-take and have to squint at a map before they believe you. As further evidence for this perspective, I commend to the reader [[2256: Bad Map Projection: South America]] where IGdTdF is only represented as truly distinct from the mainland in 1 out of the 36 South Americas represented - and this is probably more for comedy value than anything else, since in this map, IGdTdF ITSELF has been replaced by another entire (and extremely small) South America! [[User:MeZimm|MeZimm]] ([[User talk:MeZimm|talk]]) 22:42, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
 Very tempted to make an official Explanation addition that if we named the group for the members (like BRICS has been, and which originally had me trying to identify the islads by shape and what initials they might have, before my eyes finally drifted down to their actual names), it would ''almost'' make a very unfortunate initialism indeed. And the one it does make is basically the same in phonetic terms... I won't actually do so. But I am left wondering if this was actually intended as an additional unspoken bit of Randall's humour, in fact. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.195.94|172.69.195.94]] 23:00, 9 October 2024 (UTC)

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	I can't help but notice that simply listing the members would be a shorter acronym, :) [[User:NiceGuy1\|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1\|talk]]) 06:46, 9 February 2025 (UTC)		I can't help but notice that simply listing the members would be a shorter acronym, :) [[User:NiceGuy1\|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1\|talk]]) 06:46, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
		+	Well, the BRIC (then BRICS) group tried that, but now have ''ten'' members. They wisely decided to not become the BRICSEEIIU (or whatever anagram you could/should rearrange it into). [[Special:Contributions/172.71.178.124\|172.71.178.124]] 14:54, 9 February 2025 (UTC)

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	::Cuba is much longer than Florida, and I would not say it looks like it dangles below that part of the US. Also the distance is much greater compared to the size than the ones between the other islands. Maybe Tasmania is as far away but it is a very big landmass above so when drawn on the banner it looks similar. Cuba would not look anything like the others. Sumatra is larger than the part of the mainland it is near and it is not even under it. And as said Madagascar is not at all under Africa. So of course they would not be included. The reason Tierra del Fuego is not included is that when drawn like the others it would be difficult to see where it did not hang onto the mainland. Seems to me that the other not included islands given as examples in the current version of the explanation also fails to come close to the idea of the comic. --[[User:Kynde\|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde\|talk]]) 05:50, 20 October 2024 (UTC)		::Cuba is much longer than Florida, and I would not say it looks like it dangles below that part of the US. Also the distance is much greater compared to the size than the ones between the other islands. Maybe Tasmania is as far away but it is a very big landmass above so when drawn on the banner it looks similar. Cuba would not look anything like the others. Sumatra is larger than the part of the mainland it is near and it is not even under it. And as said Madagascar is not at all under Africa. So of course they would not be included. The reason Tierra del Fuego is not included is that when drawn like the others it would be difficult to see where it did not hang onto the mainland. Seems to me that the other not included islands given as examples in the current version of the explanation also fails to come close to the idea of the comic. --[[User:Kynde\|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde\|talk]]) 05:50, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

−	I can't help but notice that simply listin* the members would be a shorter acronym, :) [[User:NiceGuy1\|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1\|talk]]) 06:46, 9 February 2025 (UTC)	+	I can't help but notice that simply listing the members would be a shorter acronym, :) [[User:NiceGuy1\|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1\|talk]]) 06:46, 9 February 2025 (UTC)

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	:There are probably other edge-candidates (NZ South Island, c.f. North Island, etc? Though Stewart Island c.f. South Island might be more apt)... [[Special:Contributions/172.70.85.62\|172.70.85.62]] 19:53, 18 October 2024 (UTC)		:There are probably other edge-candidates (NZ South Island, c.f. North Island, etc? Though Stewart Island c.f. South Island might be more apt)... [[Special:Contributions/172.70.85.62\|172.70.85.62]] 19:53, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
	::Cuba is much longer than Florida, and I would not say it looks like it dangles below that part of the US. Also the distance is much greater compared to the size than the ones between the other islands. Maybe Tasmania is as far away but it is a very big landmass above so when drawn on the banner it looks similar. Cuba would not look anything like the others. Sumatra is larger than the part of the mainland it is near and it is not even under it. And as said Madagascar is not at all under Africa. So of course they would not be included. The reason Tierra del Fuego is not included is that when drawn like the others it would be difficult to see where it did not hang onto the mainland. Seems to me that the other not included islands given as examples in the current version of the explanation also fails to come close to the idea of the comic. --[[User:Kynde\|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde\|talk]]) 05:50, 20 October 2024 (UTC)		::Cuba is much longer than Florida, and I would not say it looks like it dangles below that part of the US. Also the distance is much greater compared to the size than the ones between the other islands. Maybe Tasmania is as far away but it is a very big landmass above so when drawn on the banner it looks similar. Cuba would not look anything like the others. Sumatra is larger than the part of the mainland it is near and it is not even under it. And as said Madagascar is not at all under Africa. So of course they would not be included. The reason Tierra del Fuego is not included is that when drawn like the others it would be difficult to see where it did not hang onto the mainland. Seems to me that the other not included islands given as examples in the current version of the explanation also fails to come close to the idea of the comic. --[[User:Kynde\|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde\|talk]]) 05:50, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
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		+	I can't help but notice that simply listin* the members would be a shorter acronym, :) [[User:NiceGuy1\|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1\|talk]]) 06:46, 9 February 2025 (UTC)

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	:Cuba and Sumatra are in more complex relationships than being ''an'' island "dangling below". (Other islands/continents all around them, generally moreso than the cited examples which tend to be the predominant islands at their scale and in their context.) Madagascar hangs off the 'side' of Africa (maybe below Eurasia, if Africa wasn't counted). Obviously there's leeway of interpretation, but it's part of why Tierra Del Fuego is mentioned as an iffy candidate.		:Cuba and Sumatra are in more complex relationships than being ''an'' island "dangling below". (Other islands/continents all around them, generally moreso than the cited examples which tend to be the predominant islands at their scale and in their context.) Madagascar hangs off the 'side' of Africa (maybe below Eurasia, if Africa wasn't counted). Obviously there's leeway of interpretation, but it's part of why Tierra Del Fuego is mentioned as an iffy candidate.
	:There are probably other edge-candidates (NZ South Island, c.f. North Island, etc? Though Stewart Island c.f. South Island might be more apt)... [[Special:Contributions/172.70.85.62\|172.70.85.62]] 19:53, 18 October 2024 (UTC)		:There are probably other edge-candidates (NZ South Island, c.f. North Island, etc? Though Stewart Island c.f. South Island might be more apt)... [[Special:Contributions/172.70.85.62\|172.70.85.62]] 19:53, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
		+	::Cuba is much longer than Florida, and I would not say it looks like it dangles below that part of the US. Also the distance is much greater compared to the size than the ones between the other islands. Maybe Tasmania is as far away but it is a very big landmass above so when drawn on the banner it looks similar. Cuba would not look anything like the others. Sumatra is larger than the part of the mainland it is near and it is not even under it. And as said Madagascar is not at all under Africa. So of course they would not be included. The reason Tierra del Fuego is not included is that when drawn like the others it would be difficult to see where it did not hang onto the mainland. Seems to me that the other not included islands given as examples in the current version of the explanation also fails to come close to the idea of the comic. --[[User:Kynde\|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde\|talk]]) 05:50, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

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 No love for Cuba, Madagascar, or Sumatra? [[Special:Contributions/172.69.23.49|172.69.23.49]] 19:43, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
 :Cuba and Sumatra are in more complex relationships than being ''an'' island "dangling below". (Other islands/continents all around them, generally moreso than the cited examples which tend to be the predominant islands at their scale and in their context.) Madagascar hangs off the 'side' of Africa (maybe below Eurasia, if Africa wasn't counted). Obviously there's leeway of interpretation, but it's part of why Tierra Del Fuego is mentioned as an iffy candidate.
-:There are probably other edge-candidates (NZ South Island, c.f. North Island, etc?)... [[Special:Contributions/172.70.85.62|172.70.85.62]] 19:53, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
+:There are probably other edge-candidates (NZ South Island, c.f. North Island, etc? Though Stewart Island c.f. South Island might be more apt)... [[Special:Contributions/172.70.85.62|172.70.85.62]] 19:53, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

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	No love for Cuba, Madagascar, or Sumatra? [[Special:Contributions/172.69.23.49\|172.69.23.49]] 19:43, 18 October 2024 (UTC)		No love for Cuba, Madagascar, or Sumatra? [[Special:Contributions/172.69.23.49\|172.69.23.49]] 19:43, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
		+	:Cuba and Sumatra are in more complex relationships than being ''an'' island "dangling below". (Other islands/continents all around them, generally moreso than the cited examples which tend to be the predominant islands at their scale and in their context.) Madagascar hangs off the 'side' of Africa (maybe below Eurasia, if Africa wasn't counted). Obviously there's leeway of interpretation, but it's part of why Tierra Del Fuego is mentioned as an iffy candidate.
		+	:There are probably other edge-candidates (NZ South Island, c.f. North Island, etc?)... [[Special:Contributions/172.70.85.62\|172.70.85.62]] 19:53, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

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	::The south-eastern-edge islands may get a decent showing (in full black), given the resolution, though the anti-aliasing hints at features (e.g. Bruny/Maria) that may or may not be represented there for reasons of typical Randallian illustration.		::The south-eastern-edge islands may get a decent showing (in full black), given the resolution, though the anti-aliasing hints at features (e.g. Bruny/Maria) that may or may not be represented there for reasons of typical Randallian illustration.
	::For obvious reasons of scale/coverage, though, Macquarie Island doesn't festure at all! [[Special:Contributions/172.70.85.128\|172.70.85.128]] 15:28, 16 October 2024 (UTC)		::For obvious reasons of scale/coverage, though, Macquarie Island doesn't festure at all! [[Special:Contributions/172.70.85.128\|172.70.85.128]] 15:28, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
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		+	No love for Cuba, Madagascar, or Sumatra? [[Special:Contributions/172.69.23.49\|172.69.23.49]] 19:43, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

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 The two small islands marked as dots between Tasmania and the mainland also happen to be part of the Tasmanian state.--[[User:Ozhamada|Ozhamada]] ([[User talk:Ozhamada|talk]]) 02:18, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
+:I'm an aussie and that's learning for me! However they aren't marked on the map. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.210.14|172.68.210.14]] 08:39, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
-I'm an aussie and that's learning for me! However they aren't marked on the map. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.210.14|172.68.210.14]] 08:39, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
+::It might depend upon what resultion image you're looking at. The two (actually three, two to the right) dots north of Tasmania's corners (King and Flinders/Cape Barren) are marked the grey of the mainland rather than the black of all other points Tasman.

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	The two small islands marked as dots between Tasmania and the mainland also happen to be part of the Tasmanian state.--[[User:Ozhamada\|Ozhamada]] ([[User talk:Ozhamada\|talk]]) 02:18, 16 October 2024 (UTC)		The two small islands marked as dots between Tasmania and the mainland also happen to be part of the Tasmanian state.--[[User:Ozhamada\|Ozhamada]] ([[User talk:Ozhamada\|talk]]) 02:18, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
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		+	I'm an aussie and that's learning for me! However they aren't marked on the map. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.210.14\|172.68.210.14]] 08:39, 16 October 2024 (UTC)