Talk:3032: Skew-T Log-P - Revision history

172.68.194.211 at 09:40, 7 January 2025

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42.book.addict at 21:56, 4 January 2025

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141.101.99.164 at 15:48, 3 January 2025

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172.71.26.101 at 15:41, 3 January 2025

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Stevejohnston at 14:19, 3 January 2025

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Nickdenny: Reference to Cats

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Reference to Cats

Kynde at 16:33, 2 January 2025

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141.101.98.244 at 16:16, 2 January 2025

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141.101.109.192 at 14:44, 2 January 2025

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172.71.23.88 at 14:00, 2 January 2025

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	The Heavyside/Heaviside layer is also the heaven-like destination in the musical (and movie) /Cats/. [[User:Nickdenny\|Nickdenny]] ([[User talk:Nickdenny\|talk]]) 21:15, 2 January 2025 (UTC)		The Heavyside/Heaviside layer is also the heaven-like destination in the musical (and movie) /Cats/. [[User:Nickdenny\|Nickdenny]] ([[User talk:Nickdenny\|talk]]) 21:15, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
		+	: xkcd wouldn't make a typo, right? "ChatGPT, make a list of the top 10 misspelt scientist names!"
		+	..."10. Turing - Frequently misspelled as "Turing" or "Turing." Alan Turing is known for his foundational work in computer science and artificial intelligence."...Congrats, ChatGPT, you passed the Turing test with flying colors, only a human could be such a complete twit. 09:40, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

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	...did the ip address user really just have chatgpt write an explanation of this page without a proper understanding of what is happening in this page? the only reasonable content in this explanation page right now was contributed by other users and is a couple lines at the beginning. also they didn't even try to hide that the entire text was AI-generated - [[User:Vaedez\|Vaedez]] ([[User talk:Vaedez\|talk]]) 05:09, 2 January 2025 (UTC)		...did the ip address user really just have chatgpt write an explanation of this page without a proper understanding of what is happening in this page? the only reasonable content in this explanation page right now was contributed by other users and is a couple lines at the beginning. also they didn't even try to hide that the entire text was AI-generated - [[User:Vaedez\|Vaedez]] ([[User talk:Vaedez\|talk]]) 05:09, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

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 :::Don't apologise. It's what online news-sites do (mostly... e.g. bbc.co.uk doesn't even have ads, as a non-commercial broadcaster, though I believe bbc.com does do some lighter-than-other-places additional bumf; and, other than them, maybe pop-up "spamvertising" sites that want their extremely biased output seen by as many gullible people as they can). Whether that's a full-blown "you're not getting in without paying" (give or take various ways round it) or just one of those annoying ones that pushes play-on-open videos on ''maybe''-related subjects, behind a large notice pestering you to accept a couple of hundred "associate" cookies, it's something I'd be surprised not to encounter, just to try to balance costs and (by whatever means) incomes whilst maintaining their chosen profile of visitors/customers.
 :::But, having become a 'customer' personal or institutional subscription/registration?), you might not realise that those who haven't yet become a 'member' might have to weave their way through the "five free views, and a lot of pop-ups reminding you of that" process to get their ''first'' look at any given thing. I'm sure ''you'' have encountered the same (elsewhere, at least), as a curious denizen of the web. It's how net-economics seem to mould the online news ecosystem. (I even get pestered by news.bbc.co.uk, but much less harshly and barely any effort needed to shrug off the pesters, given that I don't want to use their iPlayer/News/Weather apps but only take news articles and weather info directly from the web-pages.)
-:::PS., the original aip.org link actually works well enough, I found out, once I'd made time to absorb any further battles with web-pages (though, as it turned out, therecwere none). Interesting, and (nicely!) info-dense. Maybe a deeper dive could hit registration-requirements, but what I saw looked like I was straight in. Will look at the direct picture link once I've submitted this (long-winded!) reply, but I think I know what it is that you mean now.
+:::PS., the original aip.org link actually works well enough, I found out, once I'd made time to absorb any further battles with web-pages (though, as it turned out, there were none, except for a ''sensible'' cookie-control with a simple (not hidden!) "reject all" option... bliss!). Interesting, and (nicely!) info-dense. Maybe a deeper dive could hit registration-requirements, but what I saw looked like I was straight in. Will look at the direct picture link once I've submitted this (long-winded!) reply, but I think I know what it is that you mean now. ''edit:Yep, that's what I thought you meant. Again, interesting!'' [[Special:Contributions/141.101.99.164|141.101.99.164]] 15:48, 3 January 2025 (UTC)<!-- whoops, forgot to sign! -->
 I feel like we should make a note about how this comic was published on New Year's Day in EST [[Special:Contributions/141.101.109.192|141.101.109.192]] 14:44, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

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 Newbie here. I wondered whether the timing of this may be related to the recent publishing of a log-log chart by the Economist newspaper called "The Chart of Everything" (https://www.economist.com/interactive/christmas-specials/2024/12/21/the-chart-of-everything) based on the paper "All objects and some questions" (https://pubs.aip.org/aapt/ajp/article/91/10/819/2911822/All-objects-and-some-questions). If not, I hope you find it diverting.  [[User:Stevejohnston|Stevejohnston]] ([[User talk:Stevejohnston|talk]]) 13:51, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
 :The former is (as expected) hidden behind a pester-/registration-/pay-wall that I'm not going to take the time and effort to navigate past/through. Maybe the second isn't, but want to recover from the experience of the first one, first. But, without breaking copyright rules, it could have been better if you had chosen a different link in the initial case. (Don't rely on us being paid-up subscribers, or maybe employing devious browser-scripts/noscripts to dodge the issue.) [[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.244|141.101.98.244]] 16:16, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
-:That's disappointing. I was pretty sure the Christmas specials weren't pay-walled. Apologies for not checking first. Here is the direct link to the American Journal of Physics article image of the chart https://pubs.aip.org/view-large/figure/89607967/819_1_5.0150209.figures.online.f2.jpg  hopefully you'll now see where my suggestion originated, and apologies for wasting your time.
+::That's disappointing. I was pretty sure the Christmas specials weren't pay-walled. Apologies for not checking first. Here is the direct link to the American Journal of Physics article image of the chart https://pubs.aip.org/view-large/figure/89607967/819_1_5.0150209.figures.online.f2.jpg  hopefully you'll now see where my suggestion originated, and apologies for wasting your time. {{unsigned|Stevejohnston|14:19, 3 January 2025}}
 I feel like we should make a note about how this comic was published on New Year's Day in EST [[Special:Contributions/141.101.109.192|141.101.109.192]] 14:44, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

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 Newbie here. I wondered whether the timing of this may be related to the recent publishing of a log-log chart by the Economist newspaper called "The Chart of Everything" (https://www.economist.com/interactive/christmas-specials/2024/12/21/the-chart-of-everything) based on the paper "All objects and some questions" (https://pubs.aip.org/aapt/ajp/article/91/10/819/2911822/All-objects-and-some-questions). If not, I hope you find it diverting.  [[User:Stevejohnston|Stevejohnston]] ([[User talk:Stevejohnston|talk]]) 13:51, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
 :The former is (as expected) hidden behind a pester-/registration-/pay-wall that I'm not going to take the time and effort to navigate past/through. Maybe the second isn't, but want to recover from the experience of the first one, first. But, without breaking copyright rules, it could have been better if you had chosen a different link in the initial case. (Don't rely on us being paid-up subscribers, or maybe employing devious browser-scripts/noscripts to dodge the issue.) [[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.244|141.101.98.244]] 16:16, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
 I feel like we should make a note about how this comic was published on New Year's Day in EST [[Special:Contributions/141.101.109.192|141.101.109.192]] 14:44, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

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	:In a number of ways, we already are doing. At least two of them predating your suggestion, but haven't checked the history for exact timings on ''all'' the non-automatic indicators. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.244\|141.101.98.244]] 16:16, 2 January 2025 (UTC)		:In a number of ways, we already are doing. At least two of them predating your suggestion, but haven't checked the history for exact timings on ''all'' the non-automatic indicators. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.244\|141.101.98.244]] 16:16, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
	::The date is at the top... But I have rewritten the trivia about it, since it is clearly the first 2025 comic as it was released on New Years Day. In stead the trivia now mentions the odd fact that it is not a comic about New Year. A rare incident. But then again the Christmas Day comic was not about Christmas either, which was a first. For New Year a second since they began as a regular thing. But at least we did get a New Year comic this New Year just before in the last comic of 2024. --[[User:Kynde\|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde\|talk]]) 16:33, 2 January 2025 (UTC)		::The date is at the top... But I have rewritten the trivia about it, since it is clearly the first 2025 comic as it was released on New Years Day. In stead the trivia now mentions the odd fact that it is not a comic about New Year. A rare incident. But then again the Christmas Day comic was not about Christmas either, which was a first. For New Year a second since they began as a regular thing. But at least we did get a New Year comic this New Year just before in the last comic of 2024. --[[User:Kynde\|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde\|talk]]) 16:33, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
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		+	The Heavyside/Heaviside layer is also the heaven-like destination in the musical (and movie) /Cats/. [[User:Nickdenny\|Nickdenny]] ([[User talk:Nickdenny\|talk]]) 21:15, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

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	I feel like we should make a note about how this comic was published on New Year's Day in EST [[Special:Contributions/141.101.109.192\|141.101.109.192]] 14:44, 2 January 2025 (UTC)		I feel like we should make a note about how this comic was published on New Year's Day in EST [[Special:Contributions/141.101.109.192\|141.101.109.192]] 14:44, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
	:In a number of ways, we already are doing. At least two of them predating your suggestion, but haven't checked the history for exact timings on ''all'' the non-automatic indicators. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.244\|141.101.98.244]] 16:16, 2 January 2025 (UTC)		:In a number of ways, we already are doing. At least two of them predating your suggestion, but haven't checked the history for exact timings on ''all'' the non-automatic indicators. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.244\|141.101.98.244]] 16:16, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
		+	::The date is at the top... But I have rewritten the trivia about it, since it is clearly the first 2025 comic as it was released on New Years Day. In stead the trivia now mentions the odd fact that it is not a comic about New Year. A rare incident. But then again the Christmas Day comic was not about Christmas either, which was a first. For New Year a second since they began as a regular thing. But at least we did get a New Year comic this New Year just before in the last comic of 2024. --[[User:Kynde\|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde\|talk]]) 16:33, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

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	Newbie here. I wondered whether the timing of this may be related to the recent publishing of a log-log chart by the Economist newspaper called "The Chart of Everything" (https://www.economist.com/interactive/christmas-specials/2024/12/21/the-chart-of-everything) based on the paper "All objects and some questions" (https://pubs.aip.org/aapt/ajp/article/91/10/819/2911822/All-objects-and-some-questions). If not, I hope you find it diverting. [[User:Stevejohnston\|Stevejohnston]] ([[User talk:Stevejohnston\|talk]]) 13:51, 2 January 2025 (UTC)		Newbie here. I wondered whether the timing of this may be related to the recent publishing of a log-log chart by the Economist newspaper called "The Chart of Everything" (https://www.economist.com/interactive/christmas-specials/2024/12/21/the-chart-of-everything) based on the paper "All objects and some questions" (https://pubs.aip.org/aapt/ajp/article/91/10/819/2911822/All-objects-and-some-questions). If not, I hope you find it diverting. [[User:Stevejohnston\|Stevejohnston]] ([[User talk:Stevejohnston\|talk]]) 13:51, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
		+	:The former is (as expected) hidden behind a pester-/registration-/pay-wall that I'm not going to take the time and effort to navigate past/through. Maybe the second isn't, but want to recover from the experience of the first one, first. But, without breaking copyright rules, it could have been better if you had chosen a different link in the initial case. (Don't rely on us being paid-up subscribers, or maybe employing devious browser-scripts/noscripts to dodge the issue.) [[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.244\|141.101.98.244]] 16:16, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

	I feel like we should make a note about how this comic was published on New Year's Day in EST [[Special:Contributions/141.101.109.192\|141.101.109.192]] 14:44, 2 January 2025 (UTC)		I feel like we should make a note about how this comic was published on New Year's Day in EST [[Special:Contributions/141.101.109.192\|141.101.109.192]] 14:44, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
		+	:In a number of ways, we already are doing. At least two of them predating your suggestion, but haven't checked the history for exact timings on ''all'' the non-automatic indicators. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.244\|141.101.98.244]] 16:16, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

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	Newbie here. I wondered whether the timing of this may be related to the recent publishing of a log-log chart by the Economist newspaper called "The Chart of Everything" (https://www.economist.com/interactive/christmas-specials/2024/12/21/the-chart-of-everything) based on the paper "All objects and some questions" (https://pubs.aip.org/aapt/ajp/article/91/10/819/2911822/All-objects-and-some-questions). If not, I hope you find it diverting. [[User:Stevejohnston\|Stevejohnston]] ([[User talk:Stevejohnston\|talk]]) 13:51, 2 January 2025 (UTC)		Newbie here. I wondered whether the timing of this may be related to the recent publishing of a log-log chart by the Economist newspaper called "The Chart of Everything" (https://www.economist.com/interactive/christmas-specials/2024/12/21/the-chart-of-everything) based on the paper "All objects and some questions" (https://pubs.aip.org/aapt/ajp/article/91/10/819/2911822/All-objects-and-some-questions). If not, I hope you find it diverting. [[User:Stevejohnston\|Stevejohnston]] ([[User talk:Stevejohnston\|talk]]) 13:51, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
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		+	I feel like we should make a note about how this comic was published on New Year's Day in EST [[Special:Contributions/141.101.109.192\|141.101.109.192]] 14:44, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

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	:I know enough about the subject to appreciate the comic, and generally recognise the real vs. not-so-real things in it to a decent degree, but (as of my first viewing, slightly after the first linkless "seems to be about the weather" text went in) couldn't really quickly muster a decent explanation together. From the above conversation, looks like I ''could'' have spent time on it, but it was late night/early morning and I was hoping something better would arrive while I was asleep. (From the above comments, and what little has effectively been added, I was wrong. Might poke away at it, now I've dealt with my morning tasks and had my dinner.) [[Special:Contributions/141.101.99.164\|141.101.99.164]] 13:09, 2 January 2025 (UTC)		:I know enough about the subject to appreciate the comic, and generally recognise the real vs. not-so-real things in it to a decent degree, but (as of my first viewing, slightly after the first linkless "seems to be about the weather" text went in) couldn't really quickly muster a decent explanation together. From the above conversation, looks like I ''could'' have spent time on it, but it was late night/early morning and I was hoping something better would arrive while I was asleep. (From the above comments, and what little has effectively been added, I was wrong. Might poke away at it, now I've dealt with my morning tasks and had my dinner.) [[Special:Contributions/141.101.99.164\|141.101.99.164]] 13:09, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

		+	:I think I'm a nerd, but I really don't see much difference between Randall's version and the diagram referenced in Wikipedia. The humor, if there is any, is either a superb success or a dismal failure, either way being very much like weather forecasting. [[Special:Contributions/172.71.23.88\|172.71.23.88]] 14:00, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

	Newbie here. I wondered whether the timing of this may be related to the recent publishing of a log-log chart by the Economist newspaper called "The Chart of Everything" (https://www.economist.com/interactive/christmas-specials/2024/12/21/the-chart-of-everything) based on the paper "All objects and some questions" (https://pubs.aip.org/aapt/ajp/article/91/10/819/2911822/All-objects-and-some-questions). If not, I hope you find it diverting. [[User:Stevejohnston\|Stevejohnston]] ([[User talk:Stevejohnston\|talk]]) 13:51, 2 January 2025 (UTC)		Newbie here. I wondered whether the timing of this may be related to the recent publishing of a log-log chart by the Economist newspaper called "The Chart of Everything" (https://www.economist.com/interactive/christmas-specials/2024/12/21/the-chart-of-everything) based on the paper "All objects and some questions" (https://pubs.aip.org/aapt/ajp/article/91/10/819/2911822/All-objects-and-some-questions). If not, I hope you find it diverting. [[User:Stevejohnston\|Stevejohnston]] ([[User talk:Stevejohnston\|talk]]) 13:51, 2 January 2025 (UTC)