Talk:3035: Trimix - Revision history

172.70.91.182 at 14:21, 13 January 2025

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141.101.109.167: My reply was to 172.69.155.86 and is indented as such. (also added a new reply)

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My reply was to 172.69.155.86 and is indented as such. (also added a new reply)

172.70.140.242 at 18:34, 10 January 2025

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RadiantRainwing at 14:35, 10 January 2025

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172.70.162.164 at 12:20, 10 January 2025

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172.68.186.132 at 09:25, 10 January 2025

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Kynde at 08:23, 10 January 2025

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Firestar233 at 07:06, 10 January 2025

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Stallman at 04:53, 10 January 2025

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172.70.85.70 at 22:51, 9 January 2025

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 ::::I thought the "over-inflated" image was part of the pun... - [[Special:Contributions/172.70.210.177|172.70.210.177]] 17:48, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
 :::::It's a glitch. If it was part of the comic, it would appear oversized on all devices and screen sizes. To me it's looking normal on firefox for android, but oversized on firefox flatpak on a 1366px width monitor. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.140.242|172.70.140.242]] 18:34, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
-:::::Whatever size it is, it will, by its nature, be comically so.[[Special:Contributions/172.68.186.132|172.68.186.132]] 09:25, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
+:::Whatever size it is, it will, by its nature, be comically so.[[Special:Contributions/172.68.186.132|172.68.186.132]] 09:25, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
 I'd question whether you could get a scuba tank to float with any amount of helium. Since you're dealing with a fixed size tank the most lift you going to get would be less than the weight of the air that the tank displaces (lift = weight of air - weight of tank - weight of helium, iirc). A typical aluminum Ali 80 tank has a volume of 11.1 liters which displaces only about 151g of air while the tank itself weighs 14kg  [[User:StumbleRunner|StumbleRunner]] ([[User talk:StumbleRunner|talk]]) 07:17, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

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 :::I'm on Chrome and it looks much larger than usual. .-. --[[User:1234231587678|1234231587678]] ([[User talk:1234231587678|talk]]) 16:50, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
 :::Well, I'm also on Chrome, and it looks totally normal. Normal size on Edge too. [[User:RadiantRainwing|RadiantRainwing]] ([[User talk:RadiantRainwing|talk]]) 14:35, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
-::::"Comically large"? If anything, the regular size is comically small. Why doesn't randall post comics in HD like everyone else? [[Special:Contributions/141.101.109.167|141.101.109.167]] 20:15, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
+::"Comically large"? If anything, the regular size is comically small. Why doesn't randall post comics in HD like everyone else? [[Special:Contributions/141.101.109.167|141.101.109.167]] 20:15, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
-:::::Because it's stick figures and thus unnecessary. Also, (at least on chrome) the image is so large that it overflows the boundaries. Likely a glitch, but maybe a pun, yeah. [[User:Stallman|Stallman]] ([[User talk:Stallman|talk]]) 04:53, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
+:::Because it's stick figures and thus unnecessary. Also, (at least on chrome) the image is so large that it overflows the boundaries. Likely a glitch, but maybe a pun, yeah. [[User:Stallman|Stallman]] ([[User talk:Stallman|talk]]) 04:53, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
-::::::I thought the "over-inflated" image was part of the pun... - [[Special:Contributions/172.70.210.177|172.70.210.177]] 17:48, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
+::::XKCD is more than just stick figures, and what exactly are the boundaries? They should be at least 1920x1080. Just how large was the "glitched" image?  [[Special:Contributions/141.101.109.167|141.101.109.167]] 20:31, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
-:::::::It's a glitch. If it was part of the comic, it would appear oversized on all devices and screen sizes. To me it's looking normal on firefox for android, but oversized on firefox flatpak on a 1366px width monitor. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.140.242|172.70.140.242]] 18:34, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
+::::I thought the "over-inflated" image was part of the pun... - [[Special:Contributions/172.70.210.177|172.70.210.177]] 17:48, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
 :::::Whatever size it is, it will, by its nature, be comically so.[[Special:Contributions/172.68.186.132|172.68.186.132]] 09:25, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

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 :::::Because it's stick figures and thus unnecessary. Also, (at least on chrome) the image is so large that it overflows the boundaries. Likely a glitch, but maybe a pun, yeah. [[User:Stallman|Stallman]] ([[User talk:Stallman|talk]]) 04:53, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
 ::::::I thought the "over-inflated" image was part of the pun... - [[Special:Contributions/172.70.210.177|172.70.210.177]] 17:48, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
 :::::Whatever size it is, it will, by its nature, be comically so.[[Special:Contributions/172.68.186.132|172.68.186.132]] 09:25, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

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 ::Not for me. I’m on Safari, and it looks pretty normal. '''[[User:42.book.addict|<span style="font-family:Cormorant Garamond;font-size:9pt;color:#A9C6CA">42.book.addict</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:42.book.addict|<span style="font-family:Cormorant Garamond;font-size:6pt;color:#516874">Talk to me!</span>]]</sup>''' 16:08, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
 :::I'm on Chrome and it looks much larger than usual. .-. --[[User:1234231587678|1234231587678]] ([[User talk:1234231587678|talk]]) 16:50, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
 ::::"Comically large"? If anything, the regular size is comically small. Why doesn't randall post comics in HD like everyone else? [[Special:Contributions/141.101.109.167|141.101.109.167]] 20:15, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
 :::::Because it's stick figures and thus unnecessary. Also, (at least on chrome) the image is so large that it overflows the boundaries. Likely a glitch, but maybe a pun, yeah. [[User:Stallman|Stallman]] ([[User talk:Stallman|talk]]) 04:53, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

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 :::I think, on revue, I happened to restore anything you thought lost (albeit in my words, not yet knowing what you'd done) when correcting/removing the awkward misunderstanding that helium is "anti-gravity" in the 'true explanation' bit. (Yes, it's the conceit of the comic, but should not then have been used in the ''genuine'' bit of the Explanation. You only become more buoyant if you have ''less'' weight in a given volume. For an effectively unchanging volume, more of even a lighter gas is heavier. And you can never have little enough of any gas to make a Scuba-tank buoyant at sea-level air pressures.) [[Special:Contributions/172.70.90.118|172.70.90.118]] 11:13, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
 ::::I cannot say if it was you who did this, I do not think so, since yo wrote several hours later here, and in both you comments case and the case where something was deleted it is different IP addressees. But the current explanation has taken the gist of what I intended and made it much better, so I'm happy with the current explanation which is much better than my attempt ;-) --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 08:23, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
 : There is no question here. Boyancy is provided by making the container (the tank in this example) lighter for its volume than the equivalent amount of air. With a balloon, the container volume increasaes as you increase the helium, making the container more boyant. A tank does not expand, and thus gets less boyant as increased helium adds to its mass per volume. The very best that you could do would be to fill the tank with a vacuum, but even then it would still weight more than the equivalent amount of air due to the weight of the tank itself.[[User:Geek Prophet|Geek Prophet]] ([[User talk:Geek Prophet|talk]]) 18:04, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

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	Won’t breathing too much helium cause {{w\|Inert gas asphyxiation}}{{w\|Inert gas asphyxiation\|/suffocation}}? '''[[User:42.book.addict\|<span style="font-family:Cormorant Garamond;font-size:9pt;color:#A9C6CA">42.book.addict</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:42.book.addict\|<span style="font-family:Cormorant Garamond;font-size:6pt;color:#516874">Talk to me!</span>]]</sup>''' 21:55, 9 January 2025 (UTC)		Won’t breathing too much helium cause {{w\|Inert gas asphyxiation}}{{w\|Inert gas asphyxiation\|/suffocation}}? '''[[User:42.book.addict\|<span style="font-family:Cormorant Garamond;font-size:9pt;color:#A9C6CA">42.book.addict</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:42.book.addict\|<span style="font-family:Cormorant Garamond;font-size:6pt;color:#516874">Talk to me!</span>]]</sup>''' 21:55, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
		+	:yes. yes it will. However, when breathing at depth, there is the around the same partial pressure of oxygen as in the atmosphere at the surface, so you breathe it just fine as the oxygen will diffuse into your lungs just the same without the risk of oxygen toxicity. The helium just acts as a filler gas, acting to also reduce the risk of nitrogen narcosis by reducing the partial pressure of nitrogen, and is chosen because it is easy to breathe because it is light. consequently, mixtures with low amounts of oxygen are not safe to breathe closer to the surface as there is not a high enough partial pressure of oxygen to support consciousness. (i know i just told you information you could have gotten from simply reading the {{w\|Trimix (breathing gas)\| wikipedia article}} yourself [[User:Firestar233\|guess who]] ([[User talk:Firestar233\|if you desire conversing]] \| [[Special:Contributions/Firestar233\|what i have done]]) 07:06, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

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 Trimix is also the name of one of the strongest injectible erectile dysfunction drugs. This was my first thought when I saw the comic title. Even after I recognized my error I half expected a double-entendre on "inflation".[[User:Geek Prophet|Geek Prophet]] ([[User talk:Geek Prophet|talk]]) 18:07, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
 :When I first found the comic and googled “trimix”, the school {{w|Securly}} filter blocked it because of that exact reason. It was only when I switched to my personal computer that I realised my mistake. '''[[User:42.book.addict|<span style="font-family:Cormorant Garamond;font-size:9pt;color:#A9C6CA">42.book.addict</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:42.book.addict|<span style="font-family:Cormorant Garamond;font-size:6pt;color:#516874">Talk to me!</span>]]</sup>''' 21:31, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
 Won’t breathing too much helium cause {{w|Inert gas asphyxiation}}{{w|Inert gas asphyxiation|/suffocation}}? '''[[User:42.book.addict|<span style="font-family:Cormorant Garamond;font-size:9pt;color:#A9C6CA">42.book.addict</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:42.book.addict|<span style="font-family:Cormorant Garamond;font-size:6pt;color:#516874">Talk to me!</span>]]</sup>''' 21:55, 9 January 2025 (UTC)