Talk:3036: Chess Zoo - Revision history

172.70.163.72: /* Based on 1980's program? */ Sorry, but I hate grossly misapplied apostrophes. (Removed the inappropriate posessive, added the contractive apostrophes.)

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‎Based on 1980's program?: Sorry, but I hate grossly misapplied apostrophes. (Removed the inappropriate posessive, added the contractive apostrophes.)

FaviFake: sign you comments!!!!

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sign you comments!!!!

162.158.10.243: /* Based on 1980's program? */ new section

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‎Based on 1980's program?: new section

172.70.160.135 at 13:32, 22 January 2025

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172.68.23.217: Discussion on whether promoting pawns make noise

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Discussion on whether promoting pawns make noise

42.book.addict at 17:27, 21 January 2025

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SammyChips at 23:05, 13 January 2025

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SammyChips at 18:23, 13 January 2025

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162.158.41.72 at 18:04, 13 January 2025

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SammyChips at 18:00, 13 January 2025

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 :...and, if it somehow resolves itself, maybe let that be a general lesson to ''all'' cooperative editing done here? [[Special:Contributions/172.70.160.135|172.70.160.135]] 13:32, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
-== Based on 1980's program? ==
+== Based on 1980s program? ==
-There was a computer program, late 80s, maybe early 90s, that had this same premise.
+There was a computer program, late '80s, maybe early '90s, that had this same premise.
 You had different "aliens" or animals, and had to figure out their movement preferences, and create enclosures that would keep them happy.

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	On screen, with multiple entities, it looked exactly like this Chess Zoo.		On screen, with multiple entities, it looked exactly like this Chess Zoo.

−	If I missed it, I apologize, but did anyone provide the name of this program as a reference?	+	If I missed it, I apologize, but did anyone provide the name of this program as a reference? {{unsigned ip\|162.158.10.243\|13:47, 19 February 2025‎}}

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	:More directly, yes, there's merit in the contentious text. And I do err towards inclusion (as long as it's not too long and unweildy, unlike ''this'' entire contribution), and am also not exactly a writer with a "{{wiktionary\|kill one's darlings}}" discipline myself, but not so much that I felt that it was up to ''me'' to stabilise the situation with my own version. So... I say it should be raised, but probably could be said better. While those who snap-edit it out of existence could also consider their position(s).		:More directly, yes, there's merit in the contentious text. And I do err towards inclusion (as long as it's not too long and unweildy, unlike ''this'' entire contribution), and am also not exactly a writer with a "{{wiktionary\|kill one's darlings}}" discipline myself, but not so much that I felt that it was up to ''me'' to stabilise the situation with my own version. So... I say it should be raised, but probably could be said better. While those who snap-edit it out of existence could also consider their position(s).
	:...and, if it somehow resolves itself, maybe let that be a general lesson to ''all'' cooperative editing done here? [[Special:Contributions/172.70.160.135\|172.70.160.135]] 13:32, 22 January 2025 (UTC)		:...and, if it somehow resolves itself, maybe let that be a general lesson to ''all'' cooperative editing done here? [[Special:Contributions/172.70.160.135\|172.70.160.135]] 13:32, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
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		+	== Based on 1980's program? ==
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		+	There was a computer program, late 80s, maybe early 90s, that had this same premise.
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		+	You had different "aliens" or animals, and had to figure out their movement preferences, and create enclosures that would keep them happy.
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		+	On screen, with multiple entities, it looked exactly like this Chess Zoo.
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		+	If I missed it, I apologize, but did anyone provide the name of this program as a reference?

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 There has been some contention about the sentence in the pawn promotion paragraph: "Alternatively, perhaps the pawn promotion process produces some sort of cute noise, and if visitors are quiet they are more likely to hear it."
 This edit has been added and reverted [https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=3036%3A_Chess_Zoo&type=revision&diff=363085&oldid=363001 multiple times].
-What is the reasoning for wanting it added vs removed? I would like to hear some comments about it.
+What is the reasoning for wanting it added vs removed? I would like to hear some comments about it. {{unsigned ip|172.68.23.217|01:25, 22 January 2025}}
-Jan 22, 2021 1:21AM (UTC)
+:My comments: Fairly obviously, it is probable that "promoting pawns", like animals encouraged to act naturally like in the wild, should not be subject to too much anthropogenic noises (which doesn't stop one kid shouting about bishops, in earshot, if not within (bishop-)reach). ((Note that the "promotion rank" is the limit of the enclosure ''opposite'' the apparent observation point, it could even be intended not to irrevocably startle all the pawns into charging that way and suddenly there's only a mixed bag of non-pawns in the supposed pawn-enclosure... But nobody ever suggested ''that'', for some reason.))

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	:If castling is only blocked by pieces and not walls, Black could still do it if neither the king not bishop to the right of it had moved previously [[Special:Contributions/162.158.41.72\|162.158.41.72]] 18:04, 13 January 2025 (UTC)		:If castling is only blocked by pieces and not walls, Black could still do it if neither the king not bishop to the right of it had moved previously [[Special:Contributions/162.158.41.72\|162.158.41.72]] 18:04, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
	::I believe the problem would be with the rook, which would need to occupy the wall space that the king skipped over, unless the process of castling was generalized some to allow different magnitudes of jumps, even if the requirement for lack of movement was ignored. {{unsigned\|SammyChips}} SammyChips 18:23, 13 January 2025 (UTC)		::I believe the problem would be with the rook, which would need to occupy the wall space that the king skipped over, unless the process of castling was generalized some to allow different magnitudes of jumps, even if the requirement for lack of movement was ignored. {{unsigned\|SammyChips}} SammyChips 18:23, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
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		+	There has been some contention about the sentence in the pawn promotion paragraph: "Alternatively, perhaps the pawn promotion process produces some sort of cute noise, and if visitors are quiet they are more likely to hear it."
		+	This edit has been added and reverted [https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=3036%3A_Chess_Zoo&type=revision&diff=363085&oldid=363001 multiple times].
		+	What is the reasoning for wanting it added vs removed? I would like to hear some comments about it.
		+	Jan 22, 2021 1:21AM (UTC)

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 It looks like the transcript has switched the K's and Q's. The king is the piece with the cross on his crown. See {{w|Staunton chess set}}. --[[Special:Contributions/172.68.54.157|172.68.54.157]] 22:01, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
-It’s too bad it couldn’t have somehow allowed castling, or maybe it could’ve just pretended it did.  I would’ve appreciated title text that mentioned an incident involving a king escaping its enclosure despite their best efforts due to emergent behavior from unanticipated interaction between differing pieces and Jeff Goldblum saying that nature will find a way. SammyChips 18:00, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
+It’s too bad it couldn’t have somehow allowed castling, or maybe it could’ve just pretended it did.  I would’ve appreciated title text that mentioned an incident involving a king escaping its enclosure despite their best efforts due to emergent behavior from unanticipated interaction between differing pieces and Jeff Goldblum saying that nature will find a way. {{unsigned|SammyChips}} SammyChips 18:00, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
 :If castling is only blocked by pieces and not walls, Black could still do it if neither the king not bishop to the right of it had moved previously [[Special:Contributions/162.158.41.72|162.158.41.72]] 18:04, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
-::I believe the problem would be with the rook, which would need to occupy the wall space that the king skipped over, unless the process of castling was generalized some to allow different magnitudes of jumps, even if the requirement for lack of movement was ignored. SammyChips 18:23, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
+::I believe the problem would be with the rook, which would need to occupy the wall space that the king skipped over, unless the process of castling was generalized some to allow different magnitudes of jumps, even if the requirement for lack of movement was ignored. {{unsigned|SammyChips}} SammyChips 18:23, 13 January 2025 (UTC)

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	It’s too bad it couldn’t have somehow allowed castling, or maybe it could’ve just pretended it did. I would’ve appreciated title text that mentioned an incident involving a king escaping its enclosure despite their best efforts due to emergent behavior from unanticipated interaction between differing pieces and Jeff Goldblum saying that nature will find a way. SammyChips 18:00, 13 January 2025 (UTC)		It’s too bad it couldn’t have somehow allowed castling, or maybe it could’ve just pretended it did. I would’ve appreciated title text that mentioned an incident involving a king escaping its enclosure despite their best efforts due to emergent behavior from unanticipated interaction between differing pieces and Jeff Goldblum saying that nature will find a way. SammyChips 18:00, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
	:If castling is only blocked by pieces and not walls, Black could still do it if neither the king not bishop to the right of it had moved previously [[Special:Contributions/162.158.41.72\|162.158.41.72]] 18:04, 13 January 2025 (UTC)		:If castling is only blocked by pieces and not walls, Black could still do it if neither the king not bishop to the right of it had moved previously [[Special:Contributions/162.158.41.72\|162.158.41.72]] 18:04, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
		+	::I believe the problem would be with the rook, which would need to occupy the wall space that the king skipped over SammyChips 18:23, 13 January 2025 (UTC)

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	It’s too bad it couldn’t have somehow allowed castling, or maybe it could’ve just pretended it did. I would’ve appreciated title text that mentioned an incident involving a king escaping its enclosure despite their best efforts due to emergent behavior from unanticipated interaction between differing pieces and Jeff Goldblum saying that nature will find a way. SammyChips 18:00, 13 January 2025 (UTC)		It’s too bad it couldn’t have somehow allowed castling, or maybe it could’ve just pretended it did. I would’ve appreciated title text that mentioned an incident involving a king escaping its enclosure despite their best efforts due to emergent behavior from unanticipated interaction between differing pieces and Jeff Goldblum saying that nature will find a way. SammyChips 18:00, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
		+	:If castling is only blocked by pieces and not walls, Black could still do it if neither the king not bishop to the right of it had moved previously [[Special:Contributions/162.158.41.72\|162.158.41.72]] 18:04, 13 January 2025 (UTC)

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	It looks like the transcript has switched the K's and Q's. The king is the piece with the cross on his crown. See {{w\|Staunton chess set}}. --[[Special:Contributions/172.68.54.157\|172.68.54.157]] 22:01, 11 January 2025 (UTC)		It looks like the transcript has switched the K's and Q's. The king is the piece with the cross on his crown. See {{w\|Staunton chess set}}. --[[Special:Contributions/172.68.54.157\|172.68.54.157]] 22:01, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
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		+	It’s too bad it couldn’t have somehow allowed castling, or maybe it could’ve just pretended it did. I would’ve appreciated title text that mentioned an incident involving a king escaping its enclosure despite their best efforts due to emergent behavior from unanticipated interaction between differing pieces and Jeff Goldblum saying that nature will find a way. SammyChips 18:00, 13 January 2025 (UTC)