Talk:3048: Suspension Bridge - Revision history

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172.71.146.78 at 15:43, 10 February 2025

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RandalSchwartz: add link

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RandalSchwartz: add note about bridge in the florida keys

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add note about bridge in the florida keys

172.71.178.78 at 15:37, 9 February 2025

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172.69.43.180 at 15:22, 9 February 2025

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172.68.54.207 at 15:17, 9 February 2025

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Kynde at 08:20, 9 February 2025

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Rps: A real bridge that looks a bit like the cartoon

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A real bridge that looks a bit like the cartoon

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 Related: The Wooden bridge Tatzlwurm" in Essing Germany by Richard Johann Dietrich: [https://bsky.app/profile/jamonir.bsky.social/post/3lddc7rae4s24]. Maybe it could be included in the explanation. [[User:Rps|Rps]] ([[User talk:Rps|talk]]) 20:46, 8 February 2025 (UTC)
 :Not sure I think this is really related. It is also possible as opposed to Randall's proposal here ;-) --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 08:20, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
 It would seem that Randall has re-invented the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_suspension_bridge {{unsigned ip|172.68.54.207|15:17, 9 February 2025}}

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	Related: The Wooden bridge Tatzlwurm" in Essing Germany by Richard Johann Dietrich: [https://bsky.app/profile/jamonir.bsky.social/post/3lddc7rae4s24]. Maybe it could be included in the explanation. [[User:Rps\|Rps]] ([[User talk:Rps\|talk]]) 20:46, 8 February 2025 (UTC)		Related: The Wooden bridge Tatzlwurm" in Essing Germany by Richard Johann Dietrich: [https://bsky.app/profile/jamonir.bsky.social/post/3lddc7rae4s24]. Maybe it could be included in the explanation. [[User:Rps\|Rps]] ([[User talk:Rps\|talk]]) 20:46, 8 February 2025 (UTC)
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		+	Another example is the Karlssteg in Freiburg im Breisgau, Germany. [https://structurae.net/en/structures/karlssteg]
	:Not sure I think this is really related. It is also possible as opposed to Randall's proposal here ;-) --[[User:Kynde\|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde\|talk]]) 08:20, 9 February 2025 (UTC)		:Not sure I think this is really related. It is also possible as opposed to Randall's proposal here ;-) --[[User:Kynde\|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde\|talk]]) 08:20, 9 February 2025 (UTC)

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	I seem to recall a bridge on the overseas highway (Florida Keys) that was originally an arch bridge above a grade-level rail line. When they wanted to "upgrade" the route for cars, cars wouldn't fit into the narrow rail bridge, so they planked up and over the arches, and it was apparently quite a scary drive. I can't seem to locate it via google, although I'm sure I recall seeing it on my drive to key west about 20 years ago. I suspect it's gone now. [[User:RandalSchwartz\|RandalSchwartz]] ([[User talk:RandalSchwartz\|talk]]) 20:34, 9 February 2025 (UTC)		I seem to recall a bridge on the overseas highway (Florida Keys) that was originally an arch bridge above a grade-level rail line. When they wanted to "upgrade" the route for cars, cars wouldn't fit into the narrow rail bridge, so they planked up and over the arches, and it was apparently quite a scary drive. I can't seem to locate it via google, although I'm sure I recall seeing it on my drive to key west about 20 years ago. I suspect it's gone now. [[User:RandalSchwartz\|RandalSchwartz]] ([[User talk:RandalSchwartz\|talk]]) 20:34, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
	:Ahh, it was the Bahia Honda Railroad Bridge. A few pictures of the structure (mostly torn down now) can be seen [https://www.abandonedspaces.com/uncategorized/bahia-honda-rail-bridge.html here]. [[User:RandalSchwartz\|RandalSchwartz]] ([[User talk:RandalSchwartz\|talk]]) 22:55, 9 February 2025 (UTC)		:Ahh, it was the Bahia Honda Railroad Bridge. A few pictures of the structure (mostly torn down now) can be seen [https://www.abandonedspaces.com/uncategorized/bahia-honda-rail-bridge.html here]. [[User:RandalSchwartz\|RandalSchwartz]] ([[User talk:RandalSchwartz\|talk]]) 22:55, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
		+	:: Find it on Google Earth at 24°39.3142'N 81°17.5182'W. Mostly still there as of image date (2023, if I read correctly). [[Special:Contributions/172.71.146.78\|172.71.146.78]] 15:43, 10 February 2025 (UTC)

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	I seem to recall a bridge on the overseas highway (Florida Keys) that was originally an arch bridge above a grade-level rail line. When they wanted to "upgrade" the route for cars, cars wouldn't fit into the narrow rail bridge, so they planked up and over the arches, and it was apparently quite a scary drive. I can't seem to locate it via google, although I'm sure I recall seeing it on my drive to key west about 20 years ago. I suspect it's gone now. [[User:RandalSchwartz\|RandalSchwartz]] ([[User talk:RandalSchwartz\|talk]]) 20:34, 9 February 2025 (UTC)		I seem to recall a bridge on the overseas highway (Florida Keys) that was originally an arch bridge above a grade-level rail line. When they wanted to "upgrade" the route for cars, cars wouldn't fit into the narrow rail bridge, so they planked up and over the arches, and it was apparently quite a scary drive. I can't seem to locate it via google, although I'm sure I recall seeing it on my drive to key west about 20 years ago. I suspect it's gone now. [[User:RandalSchwartz\|RandalSchwartz]] ([[User talk:RandalSchwartz\|talk]]) 20:34, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
		+	:Ahh, it was the Bahia Honda Railroad Bridge. A few pictures of the structure (mostly torn down now) can be seen [https://www.abandonedspaces.com/uncategorized/bahia-honda-rail-bridge.html here]. [[User:RandalSchwartz\|RandalSchwartz]] ([[User talk:RandalSchwartz\|talk]]) 22:55, 9 February 2025 (UTC)

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 :Not sure I think this is really related. It is also possible as opposed to Randall's proposal here ;-) --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 08:20, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
-It would seem that Randal has re-invented the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_suspension_bridge {{unsigned ip|172.68.54.207|15:17, 9 February 2025}}
+It would seem that Randall has re-invented the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_suspension_bridge {{unsigned ip|172.68.54.207|15:17, 9 February 2025}}
 :More so the mostly 'simple'-derived {{w|Stressed ribbon bridge}}. Unless you consider that development more a version of the non-simple type, with the descenders degenerated completely into the deck structure through high tension, i.e. a step beyond the "structure hiding" levels of other {{w|Millennium Bridge, London|low-profioe suspension bridges}}. [[Special:Contributions/172.71.178.78|172.71.178.78]] 15:37, 9 February 2025 (UTC)

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	It would seem that Randal has re-invented the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_suspension_bridge {{unsigned ip\|172.68.54.207\|15:17, 9 February 2025}}		It would seem that Randal has re-invented the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_suspension_bridge {{unsigned ip\|172.68.54.207\|15:17, 9 February 2025}}
		+	:More so the mostly 'simple'-derived {{w\|Stressed ribbon bridge}}. Unless you consider that development more a version of the non-simple type, with the descenders degenerated completely into the deck structure through high tension, i.e. a step beyond the "structure hiding" levels of other {{w\|Millennium Bridge, London\|low-profioe suspension bridges}}. [[Special:Contributions/172.71.178.78\|172.71.178.78]] 15:37, 9 February 2025 (UTC)

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	:Not sure I think this is really related. It is also possible as opposed to Randall's proposal here ;-) --[[User:Kynde\|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde\|talk]]) 08:20, 9 February 2025 (UTC)		:Not sure I think this is really related. It is also possible as opposed to Randall's proposal here ;-) --[[User:Kynde\|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde\|talk]]) 08:20, 9 February 2025 (UTC)

−	It would seem that Randal has re-invented the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_suspension_bridge	+	It would seem that Randal has re-invented the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_suspension_bridge {{unsigned ip\|172.68.54.207\|15:17, 9 February 2025}}

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	Related: The Wooden bridge Tatzlwurm" in Essing Germany by Richard Johann Dietrich: [https://bsky.app/profile/jamonir.bsky.social/post/3lddc7rae4s24]. Maybe it could be included in the explanation. [[User:Rps\|Rps]] ([[User talk:Rps\|talk]]) 20:46, 8 February 2025 (UTC)		Related: The Wooden bridge Tatzlwurm" in Essing Germany by Richard Johann Dietrich: [https://bsky.app/profile/jamonir.bsky.social/post/3lddc7rae4s24]. Maybe it could be included in the explanation. [[User:Rps\|Rps]] ([[User talk:Rps\|talk]]) 20:46, 8 February 2025 (UTC)
	:Not sure I think this is really related. It is also possible as opposed to Randall's proposal here ;-) --[[User:Kynde\|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde\|talk]]) 08:20, 9 February 2025 (UTC)		:Not sure I think this is really related. It is also possible as opposed to Randall's proposal here ;-) --[[User:Kynde\|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde\|talk]]) 08:20, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
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		+	It would seem that Randal has re-invented the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_suspension_bridge

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 What if a car doing one of the fun jumps lands on a car that didn't do a fun jump? Should we mandate that every car does a fun jump for this reason (and yay, fun jump!)? [[Special:Contributions/198.41.227.115|198.41.227.115]] 22:08, 7 February 2025 (UTC)
-: Radar speed management, vehicles are only let on the bridge if their expected land point is between the vehicles around them. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.55.80|172.68.55.80]] 22:48, 7 February 2025 (UTC)
+:Radar speed management, vehicles are only let on the bridge if their expected land point is between the vehicles around them. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.55.80|172.68.55.80]] 22:48, 7 February 2025 (UTC)
-:Carrot/stick question. If they do a jump, they get their toll refunded on the far side of the bridge. Maybe give them double refund if they do a flip. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.246.135|172.69.246.135]] 04:07, 8 February 2025 (UTC)
+::Carrot/stick question. If they do a jump, they get their toll refunded on the far side of the bridge. Maybe give them double refund if they do a flip. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.246.135|172.69.246.135]] 04:07, 8 February 2025 (UTC)
 Do suspension bridges still work when built this way? Those pilings look much easier to sway to me. Maybe they are just buried a little more securely. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.55.80|172.68.55.80]] 22:48, 7 February 2025 (UTC)
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 Related: The Wooden bridge Tatzlwurm" in Essing Germany by Richard Johann Dietrich: [https://bsky.app/profile/jamonir.bsky.social/post/3lddc7rae4s24]. Maybe it could be included in the explanation. [[User:Rps|Rps]] ([[User talk:Rps|talk]]) 20:46, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

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	If you add a downward pressure to a rope that's significantly stronger than it's normal tension, you end up with a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catenary#Suspension_bridge_curve parabola] [[Special:Contributions/162.158.137.212\|162.158.137.212]] 17:47, 8 February 2025 (UTC)		If you add a downward pressure to a rope that's significantly stronger than it's normal tension, you end up with a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catenary#Suspension_bridge_curve parabola] [[Special:Contributions/162.158.137.212\|162.158.137.212]] 17:47, 8 February 2025 (UTC)
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		+	Related: The Wooden bridge Tatzlwurm" in Essing Germany by Richard Johann Dietrich: [https://bsky.app/profile/jamonir.bsky.social/post/3lddc7rae4s24]. Maybe it could be included in the explanation. [[User:Rps\|Rps]] ([[User talk:Rps\|talk]]) 20:46, 8 February 2025 (UTC)