Talk:3055: Giants - Revision history

98.192.165.229 at 22:03, 21 August 2025

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DollarStoreBa'al at 17:16, 26 February 2025

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172.69.195.172 at 11:23, 26 February 2025

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172.71.194.49 at 10:43, 26 February 2025

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EebstertheGreat at 03:49, 26 February 2025

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EebstertheGreat at 03:47, 26 February 2025

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172.71.178.58 at 17:27, 25 February 2025

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172.71.194.113 at 15:47, 25 February 2025

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172.71.241.100: Categorisation is hard! Is Moonbase Alpha still on a moon (whilst on the Moon) in Space: 1999? A rogue planet, yes, but a "rogue moon" is indistinguishable from one of those or a rogue asteroid, perhaps. I don't thing the IAU have yet nailed this down!

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Categorisation is hard! Is Moonbase Alpha still on a moon (whilst on *the* Moon) in Space: 1999? A rogue planet, yes, but a "rogue moon" is indistinguishable from one of those or a rogue asteroid, perhaps. I don't thing the IAU have yet nailed this down!

172.70.90.4 at 14:25, 25 February 2025

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 Alas, if only the Norse had referred to Ymir and his descendants as "Ice Giants" instead of "Frost Giants", we might have had another contender for that central space. [[User:MeZimm|MeZimm]] ([[User talk:MeZimm|talk]]) 20:35, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
 :Oh, let's not get hung up on what things are correctly named – the renaming of the Iron Man to the Iron Giant has always seemed very clumsy, but, alas, seems to have stuck.[[User:Yorkshire Pudding|Yorkshire Pudding]] ([[User talk:Yorkshire Pudding|talk]]) 11:05, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
 Been a while since Randall's enthusiasm for Buns (rabbits) made an appearance in the comic! [[Special:Contributions/172.70.130.216|172.70.130.216]] 05:36, 25 February 2025 (UTC)

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	::"Iron star" is also used for a blue ''supergiant'' with Fe<sub>II</sub> lines, with η Car being a possible example of ''that'' iron star. Those iron stars ''are'' real, ''are'' giants, and ''are'' in space. [[Special:Contributions/172.71.194.49\|172.71.194.49]] 10:43, 26 February 2025 (UTC)		::"Iron star" is also used for a blue ''supergiant'' with Fe<sub>II</sub> lines, with η Car being a possible example of ''that'' iron star. Those iron stars ''are'' real, ''are'' giants, and ''are'' in space. [[Special:Contributions/172.71.194.49\|172.71.194.49]] 10:43, 26 February 2025 (UTC)
	::Noting that the Iron Man/Giant was not in space for the overwhelming majority of his depiction on page (or film? ...never seen that), which would perhaps be the best measure of his (fictional) existence. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.195.172\|172.69.195.172]] 11:23, 26 February 2025 (UTC)		::Noting that the Iron Man/Giant was not in space for the overwhelming majority of his depiction on page (or film? ...never seen that), which would perhaps be the best measure of his (fictional) existence. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.195.172\|172.69.195.172]] 11:23, 26 February 2025 (UTC)
		+	:::I have seen the film, and can confirm that while the vast majority of its time is spent on earth, there is some time where he is in space, namely during the introductory scenes and the climax. [[User:DollarStoreBa'al\|DollarStoreBa'al]] ([[User talk:DollarStoreBa'al\|talk]]) 17:16, 26 February 2025 (UTC)

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 :But I also can't think of a better reduction/refinement (for ourselves, or that Randall might have better used for his current self-selected set), so contented myself with employing minor punctuated vaguity. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.90.4|172.70.90.4]] 14:25, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
 :: In planetary science, [https://www.planetary.org/worlds/what-is-a-planet the moon is a planet]. [[User:EebstertheGreat|EebstertheGreat]] ([[User talk:EebstertheGreat|talk]]) 03:47, 26 February 2025 (UTC)
 Poor André is once again left out [[User:Pmeisel|Pmeisel]] ([[User talk:Pmeisel|talk]]) 14:11, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
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 : No, it's a reference to the character in the book and movie who came from and could fly in space. Thus he is both not real and (fictionally) in space. [[User:EebstertheGreat|EebstertheGreat]] ([[User talk:EebstertheGreat|talk]]) 03:49, 26 February 2025 (UTC)
 ::"Iron star" is also used for a blue ''supergiant'' with Fe<sub>II</sub> lines, with η Car being a possible example of ''that'' iron star. Those iron stars ''are'' real, ''are'' giants, and ''are'' in space. [[Special:Contributions/172.71.194.49|172.71.194.49]] 10:43, 26 February 2025 (UTC)

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	May iron giant be a reference to {{w\|iron star\|iron stars}} that may exist (if protons do not decay) c. 10<sup>1500</sup> years from now? [[Special:Contributions/172.71.194.113\|172.71.194.113]] 15:47, 25 February 2025 (UTC)		May iron giant be a reference to {{w\|iron star\|iron stars}} that may exist (if protons do not decay) c. 10<sup>1500</sup> years from now? [[Special:Contributions/172.71.194.113\|172.71.194.113]] 15:47, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
	: No, it's a reference to the character in the book and movie who came from and could fly in space. Thus he is both not real and (fictionally) in space. [[User:EebstertheGreat\|EebstertheGreat]] ([[User talk:EebstertheGreat\|talk]]) 03:49, 26 February 2025 (UTC)		: No, it's a reference to the character in the book and movie who came from and could fly in space. Thus he is both not real and (fictionally) in space. [[User:EebstertheGreat\|EebstertheGreat]] ([[User talk:EebstertheGreat\|talk]]) 03:49, 26 February 2025 (UTC)
		+	::"Iron star" is also used for a blue ''supergiant'' with Fe<sub>II</sub> lines, with η Car being a possible example of ''that'' iron star. Those iron stars ''are'' real, ''are'' giants, and ''are'' in space. [[Special:Contributions/172.71.194.49\|172.71.194.49]] 10:43, 26 February 2025 (UTC)

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	May iron giant be a reference to {{w\|iron star\|iron stars}} that may exist (if protons do not decay) c. 10<sup>1500</sup> years from now? [[Special:Contributions/172.71.194.113\|172.71.194.113]] 15:47, 25 February 2025 (UTC)		May iron giant be a reference to {{w\|iron star\|iron stars}} that may exist (if protons do not decay) c. 10<sup>1500</sup> years from now? [[Special:Contributions/172.71.194.113\|172.71.194.113]] 15:47, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
		+	: No, it's a reference to the character in the book and movie who came from and could fly in space. Thus he is both not real and (fictionally) in space. [[User:EebstertheGreat\|EebstertheGreat]] ([[User talk:EebstertheGreat\|talk]]) 03:49, 26 February 2025 (UTC)

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	Poor André is once again left out [[User:Pmeisel\|Pmeisel]] ([[User talk:Pmeisel\|talk]]) 14:11, 25 February 2025 (UTC)		Poor André is once again left out [[User:Pmeisel\|Pmeisel]] ([[User talk:Pmeisel\|talk]]) 14:11, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
		+	: New York didn't get a mention either, even though [https://www.space.com/michael-strahan-blue-origin-ns-19-photos#:~:text=On%20Dec.,their%20epic%20mission%20in%20pictures.&text=The%20NS-19%20crew. at least one of them] has been to space.[[Special:Contributions/172.71.178.58\|172.71.178.58]] 17:27, 25 February 2025 (UTC)

	May iron giant be a reference to {{w\|iron star\|iron stars}} that may exist (if protons do not decay) c. 10<sup>1500</sup> years from now? [[Special:Contributions/172.71.194.113\|172.71.194.113]] 15:47, 25 February 2025 (UTC)		May iron giant be a reference to {{w\|iron star\|iron stars}} that may exist (if protons do not decay) c. 10<sup>1500</sup> years from now? [[Special:Contributions/172.71.194.113\|172.71.194.113]] 15:47, 25 February 2025 (UTC)

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	Poor André is once again left out [[User:Pmeisel\|Pmeisel]] ([[User talk:Pmeisel\|talk]]) 14:11, 25 February 2025 (UTC)		Poor André is once again left out [[User:Pmeisel\|Pmeisel]] ([[User talk:Pmeisel\|talk]]) 14:11, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
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		+	May iron giant be a reference to {{w\|iron star\|iron stars}} that may exist (if protons do not decay) c. 10<sup>1500</sup> years from now? [[Special:Contributions/172.71.194.113\|172.71.194.113]] 15:47, 25 February 2025 (UTC)

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 Classifying the Atacama Giant and Cardiff Giant as 'Geological / Planetary' seems pretty dubious - requires an unusually broad interpretation of one or other of those terms.[[Special:Contributions/172.70.163.109|172.70.163.109]] 09:57, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
 :I didn't see this when doing so, but the intro explanation's use of "geological" needed editing ('maybe-quoted') to encompass the MITM's more accurately ''selenological'' nature, and (being lunar) it also really isn't "planetary", either.
-:Assuming that "planetary" is the fallback for rock-like stuff that isn't properly Earthly, it's a questionable fallback given that the Moon is... only a moon! At best, it's "a moon of a planet", but then the semantic alternatives are limited (a moon of a ''dwarf-planet'', is the only alternative I can currently think of, until we also see 'moons' of artificial constructs given a planet-like status).
+:Assuming that "planetary" is the fallback for rock-like stuff<!-- and here I'm loosely including all that which is the cores of the various 'giant' planets, so sue me! --> that isn't properly Earthly, it's a questionable fallback given that the Moon is... only a moon! At best, it's "a moon of a planet", but then the semantic alternatives are limited (a moon of a ''dwarf-planet'', is the only alternative I can currently think of, until we also see 'moons' of artificial constructs given a planet-like status).
 :But I also can't think of a better reduction/refinement (for ourselves, or that Randall might have better used for his current self-selected set), so contented myself with employing minor punctuated vaguity. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.90.4|172.70.90.4]] 14:25, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
 Poor André is once again left out [[User:Pmeisel|Pmeisel]] ([[User talk:Pmeisel|talk]]) 14:11, 25 February 2025 (UTC)

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	Classifying the Atacama Giant and Cardiff Giant as 'Geological / Planetary' seems pretty dubious - requires an unusually broad interpretation of one or other of those terms.[[Special:Contributions/172.70.163.109\|172.70.163.109]] 09:57, 25 February 2025 (UTC)		Classifying the Atacama Giant and Cardiff Giant as 'Geological / Planetary' seems pretty dubious - requires an unusually broad interpretation of one or other of those terms.[[Special:Contributions/172.70.163.109\|172.70.163.109]] 09:57, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
		+	:I didn't see this when doing so, but the intro explanation's use of "geological" needed editing ('maybe-quoted') to encompass the MITM's more accurately ''selenological'' nature, and (being lunar) it also really isn't "planetary", either.
		+	:Assuming that "planetary" is the fallback for rock-like stuff that isn't properly Earthly, it's a questionable fallback given that the Moon is... only a moon! At best, it's "a moon of a planet", but then the semantic alternatives are limited (a moon of a ''dwarf-planet'', is the only alternative I can currently think of, until we also see 'moons' of artificial constructs given a planet-like status).
		+	:But I also can't think of a better reduction/refinement (for ourselves, or that Randall might have better used for his current self-selected set), so contented myself with employing minor punctuated vaguity. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.90.4\|172.70.90.4]] 14:25, 25 February 2025 (UTC)

	Poor André is once again left out [[User:Pmeisel\|Pmeisel]] ([[User talk:Pmeisel\|talk]]) 14:11, 25 February 2025 (UTC)		Poor André is once again left out [[User:Pmeisel\|Pmeisel]] ([[User talk:Pmeisel\|talk]]) 14:11, 25 February 2025 (UTC)