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104.23.170.4: Wiki: Modernity

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Wiki: Modernity

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172.70.42.168: Neil DeGrasse Tyson and Condescending view

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Neil DeGrasse Tyson and Condescending view

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 : "''Modern" is post-1500''" -- '''Museum of '''Modern''' Art''', 1929/1930 until today (essentially Pluto's reign); works to 1885  --[[User:PRR|PRR]] ([[User talk:PRR|talk]]) 00:54, 17 March 2025 (UTC)
 :: {{w|Modernity#Scientific}}. It varies a bit field by field, but in science, philosophy, and history, "modernity" begins around 1500. Western History is divided into classical antiquity, middle ages, and modernity. Oh, and Copernicus, father of modern (non-classical) astronomy? He lived 1473-1543. [[Special:Contributions/104.23.170.4|104.23.170.4]] 02:07, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
 I added a bunch of Wikipedia citations. I went by the WP rule (citation needed) of linking the first non-parenthesized instance of a word/phrase. That does make for some awkward things, like lists with only some of the items linked, and the {{w|natural satellite|moon}} link in a mention under '''Simplistic''' rather than on the more relevant '''Lunar'''.

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 :Mild correction: Tuesday is named for Mars, Mercury lends its name to Wednesday, and Jupiter Thursday. Also this would be the Ultratraditionalist definition, but Randall excluded the Sun and Moon from that for some reason. {{unsigned ip|108.162.227.64|12:12, 7 April 2025‎}}
-::Depends upon your pantheon, and your interpretations/inter-relations with the others.
+::Depends upon your pantheon, and your interpretations/inter-relations with the others. Wednesday is named for Wodan/Wotan/Odin/etc, the head of the Norse-like gods, so is equivalent to Jove/Jupiter of the Latinesque pantheon (even though latinesque day-naming indeed goes instead with Mercury to inspire "Mercredi"/etc). By tradition, Odin ''was'' also associated with Mercury, but it's so mixed up that it still might not be particularly germane in this case.
 ::Tuesday ''is'' more Mars, Týr/Tiw being the son of Odin (maybe, could also be from the not-god/jottun Hymir) who has the aspect of conflict and thus is Mars the mediteranean god and directly Mars the planet.
 ::Thusday (being Thor) does not normally ''have'' a planet associated with him. Sometimes (instead of Odin), being equated to Jove/Jupiter (probably the lightning, as from the Zeus of the Greek equivalence/basis for Roman theistic lore), but at other times more just Hercules (planetless). I dare say that those more familiar with some of his MCU appearances probably would say war/Mars, these days!

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 There should be a “Dayist” list of objects that have a day of the week named after them: Sun (Sunday), Moon (Monday), Mercury (Tuesday), Jupiter (Wednesday), Mars (Thursday), Venus (Friday), and Saturn (Staurday).
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-:Mild correction: Tuesday is named for Mars, Mercury lends its name to Wednesday, and Jupiter Thursday. Also this would be the Ultratraditionalist definition, but Randall excluded the Sun and Moon from that for some reason.
+:Mild correction: Tuesday is named for Mars, Mercury lends its name to Wednesday, and Jupiter Thursday. Also this would be the Ultratraditionalist definition, but Randall excluded the Sun and Moon from that for some reason. {{unsigned ip|108.162.227.64|12:12, 7 April 2025‎}}
 Might be worth mentioning that Neil DeGrasse Tyson was a proponent(ish) of the "Condescending" view "He said he'd take all four rocky planets in our solar system — Earth, Mars, Mercury and Venus — and call them dwarf planets rather than admit Pluto to the planet club."- https://www.space.com/29960-stephen-colbert-pluto-neil-tyson-video.html [[Special:Contributions/172.70.42.168|172.70.42.168]] 21:29, 18 March 2025 (UTC)

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 There should be a “Dayist” list of objects that have a day of the week named after them: Sun (Sunday), Moon (Monday), Mercury (Tuesday), Jupiter (Wednesday), Mars (Thursday), Venus (Friday), and Saturn (Staurday).
 [[Special:Contributions/172.69.67.147|172.69.67.147]] 19:56, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
 Might be worth mentioning that Neil DeGrasse Tyson was a proponent(ish) of the "Condescending" view "He said he'd take all four rocky planets in our solar system — Earth, Mars, Mercury and Venus — and call them dwarf planets rather than admit Pluto to the planet club."- https://www.space.com/29960-stephen-colbert-pluto-neil-tyson-video.html [[Special:Contributions/172.70.42.168|172.70.42.168]] 21:29, 18 March 2025 (UTC)

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 I added a bunch of Wikipedia citations. I went by the WP rule (citation needed) of linking the first non-parenthesized instance of a word/phrase. That does make for some awkward things, like lists with only some of the items linked, and the {{w|natural satellite|moon}} link in a mention under '''Simplistic''' rather than on the more relevant '''Lunar'''.
 –[[User:P1h3r1e3d13|P<sub>1</sub>h<sub>3</sub>r<sub>1</sub>e<sub>3</sub>d<sub>13</sub>]] ([[User talk:P1h3r1e3d13|talk]]) 22:34, 14 March 2025 (UTC)
 According to the "simplistic" definition, the rings themselves (also round) are separate planets. If the simplistic definition had merely been "spheroidal" rather than "round", they would not be. I'd love to see a version of the chart where Saturn is green, but the rings are white. [[Special:Contributions/172.71.99.166|172.71.99.166]] 23:36, 14 March 2025 (UTC)
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 The reactionary traditionalists ought to be told that if Pluto is a planet, then so is Eris, so even then, there would not be nine planets, but 10. (No mention on whether it's in the 8th dimension) -- {{unsigned|KeithTyler|22:39, 19 March 2025 (UTC)}}

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	Might be worth mentioning that Neil DeGrasse Tyson was a proponent(ish) of the "Condescending" view "He said he'd take all four rocky planets in our solar system — Earth, Mars, Mercury and Venus — and call them dwarf planets rather than admit Pluto to the planet club."- https://www.space.com/29960-stephen-colbert-pluto-neil-tyson-video.html [[Special:Contributions/172.70.42.168\|172.70.42.168]] 21:29, 18 March 2025 (UTC)		Might be worth mentioning that Neil DeGrasse Tyson was a proponent(ish) of the "Condescending" view "He said he'd take all four rocky planets in our solar system — Earth, Mars, Mercury and Venus — and call them dwarf planets rather than admit Pluto to the planet club."- https://www.space.com/29960-stephen-colbert-pluto-neil-tyson-video.html [[Special:Contributions/172.70.42.168\|172.70.42.168]] 21:29, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
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		+	The reactionary traditionalists ought to be told that if Pluto is a planet, then so is Eris, so even then, there would not be nine planets, but 10. (No mention on whether it's in the 8th dimension) -- {{unsigned\|KeithTyler\|22:39, 19 March 2025 (UTC)}}

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	There should be a “Dayist” list of objects that have a day of the week named after them: Sun (Sunday), Moon (Monday), Mercury (Tuesday), Jupiter (Wednesday), Mars (Thursday), Venus (Friday), and Saturn (Staurday).		There should be a “Dayist” list of objects that have a day of the week named after them: Sun (Sunday), Moon (Monday), Mercury (Tuesday), Jupiter (Wednesday), Mars (Thursday), Venus (Friday), and Saturn (Staurday).
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		+	Might be worth mentioning that Neil DeGrasse Tyson was a proponent(ish) of the "Condescending" view "He said he'd take all four rocky planets in our solar system — Earth, Mars, Mercury and Venus — and call them dwarf planets rather than admit Pluto to the planet club."- https://www.space.com/29960-stephen-colbert-pluto-neil-tyson-video.html [[Special:Contributions/172.70.42.168\|172.70.42.168]] 21:29, 18 March 2025 (UTC)

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	I wonder if this comic was tangentially inspired by the fairly recent discovery of a further 128 (suspiciously round number, that..!) moons of Saturn, making it now having well into the 200 'moons', on top of its ring-debris. And the possibility of the IAU having to weigh in and now officially decide what a ''moon'' is, especially in contrast to all the material in Saturn's rings (maybe broken up ex-moons, possibly raw material for future moon-clumps). One would suspect a version of "clear the area around the planet it orbits", and a (looser?) threshold of hydrostatic equilibreum/sphericity might be the starting point. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.43.221\|172.69.43.221]] 13:54, 18 March 2025 (UTC)		I wonder if this comic was tangentially inspired by the fairly recent discovery of a further 128 (suspiciously round number, that..!) moons of Saturn, making it now having well into the 200 'moons', on top of its ring-debris. And the possibility of the IAU having to weigh in and now officially decide what a ''moon'' is, especially in contrast to all the material in Saturn's rings (maybe broken up ex-moons, possibly raw material for future moon-clumps). One would suspect a version of "clear the area around the planet it orbits", and a (looser?) threshold of hydrostatic equilibreum/sphericity might be the starting point. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.43.221\|172.69.43.221]] 13:54, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
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	Shouldn't the Utratraditionalist version of the solar system have 7 planets (including the Sun and the Moon)? [[Special:Contributions/172.68.245.136\|172.68.245.136]] 15:15, 17 March 2025 (UTC)		Shouldn't the Utratraditionalist version of the solar system have 7 planets (including the Sun and the Moon)? [[Special:Contributions/172.68.245.136\|172.68.245.136]] 15:15, 17 March 2025 (UTC)

−	Given that it is now considered a dwarf planet, and a lot of people, and perhaps the world itself, are unhappy, would it not be appropriate to rename it Grumpy?	+	Given that it is now considered a dwarf planet, and a lot of people, and perhaps the world itself, are unhappy, would it not be appropriate to rename it Grumpy?{{unsigned\|Jmbryant\|12:22, 18 March 2025}}
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		+	I wonder if this comic was tangentially inspired by the fairly recent discovery of a further 128 (suspiciously round number, that..!) moons of Saturn, making it now having well into the 200 'moons', on top of its ring-debris. And the possibility of the IAU having to weigh in and now officially decide what a ''moon'' is, especially in contrast to all the material in Saturn's rings (maybe broken up ex-moons, possibly raw material for future moon-clumps). One would suspect a version of "clear the area around the planet it orbits", and a (looser?) threshold of hydrostatic equilibreum/sphericity might be the starting point. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.43.221\|172.69.43.221]] 13:54, 18 March 2025 (UTC)